Chizik vs Kiffin Demeanor

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volfan2024

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He was once the Tigers’ defensive coordinator. His last season, in 2004, Auburn went 13-0. He told his new team there was no reason not to continue that streak. By that logic, dating back to 2003, he’s 20-0 at Auburn.
His goal was to retain the physicality on both sides of the ball that defined this program. He wanted a team those small town, no nonsense kids would be proud to call their own.
Other than the gimmick of visiting some recruits in a white limousine, he drew little attention to himself or the program last offseason.
He was the antithesis of his fellow SEC coaching arrival, Lane Kiffin, the Mouth of the South that he bested Saturday. Kiffin felt the need to engage the league’s powers, draw in the media spotlight and get everyone talking about the Volunteers and the great things they were going to do.
Chizik felt the need to just do it.
“That’s our motto: ‘We don’t talk about it,’ ” running back Mario Fannin said
 
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If it wasn't for Gus Malzahn and the offense he brought, Chizik would not be reaping the success. If you ask me Gus is more like the HC there then Chizik
 
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round 1 went to CGC.

my money is on CLK in round 2.
 
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There won't be a round two for a while. They're not on our schedule in the coming years. Unless they meet in the SEC Championship game. That's unlikely at this point right now. Hats off to Auburn they got the best of Tennessee and have for quite some time now. Unfortunately so have a lot of other teams here lately. Better days and times ahead though. Just going to have to suck it up and be patient.
 
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I thought Chiznik was a bit pompous after the game when we kept saying, "we didn't play very good". If they way they played in that game was "not very good", I expect them to win the national championship this year.
 
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GmanTN said:
If it wasn't for Gus Malzahn and the offense he brought, Chizik would not be reaping the success. If you ask me Gus is more like the HC there then Chizik
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If it weren't for Monte Kiffin, and the defense that he brought, Lane wouldn't be reaping... oh wait... nevermind.
 
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rowsdower said:
One looks to be all talk. Guess which.:peace2:
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We'll see where both programs are in a few years. Gus won't be at Auburn and Saban will still be their daddy. They'll run Cheezit in a couple of years. He's winning with tuberville leftovers and a wizard as OC. Remember this is the same guy that went 0-13 at Iowa State. Glass house my friend and the success of a program is graded over more than just one year.
 
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rowsdower said:
One looks to be all talk. Guess which.:peace2:
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Wow, didn't see that one coming. :good!:

ESPN did post the recruit results for these two teams so far with TN ranked #10 in recruiting last year and currently around #5. Seems to be working so far for Kiffin. Once we reload, we'll be fine.
 
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I guess Kiffin lost the prior four matchups with Auburn as well. We can say round one to Chizik.
 
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rowsdower said:
One looks to be all talk. Guess which.:peace2:
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We have two new coaches, each in their first year, one working with far less talent than the other. The one with less talent is innovative, uses the talent available to him in the best way possible, and starts winning. The other, who's just not all that good, isn't innovative, and relies on someone else's script (USC), focuses on fooling the unsophisticated UT fan base into thinking "Wait 'till next year!", and blaming their QB.

I wonder if Lane called a whole bunch of Auburn commits after he won another "moral victory". :crazy:

So, was Lane so inept that he thought that Crompton could handle the job, even after having the whole off-season to evaluate? Or, was Lane's bulb just bright enough to see the Crompton wasn't going to cut the mustard, but far too dim to be able to step away from the USC playbook? WHo knows. Maybe daddy should brush up on coaching the offense, and let Lane stick to selling snake oil to teenage recruits.

Or maybe, he could call the person responcible for Lane's scam getting as far as it has for advice:

"Hey, is Norm Chow there? Oh this is he? Hey Norm, you know that cheat sheet that you gave me? Yes, that's the one... well the TEST has changed! Yeah! What do I do now! I'm in the middle of the TEST! Yes, yes, I know that daddy is the defensive coordinator, and he should be keeping me in the game, but he spent the entire off season studying to beat ONE TEAM, because I shot my mouth off when I took this class! Um what?! We didn't lose that game! It was a MORAL VICTORY!!!. The Raiders.... no, that didn't turn out so well. What? No, those Raiders losses were actually moral victories too! It was all everyone else's fault that they didn't see it! Back to the test, man. I'm in a bind. This football thing is confusing. Please help!"
 
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phowell23 said:
Wow, didn't see that one coming. :good!:

ESPN did post the recruit results for these two teams so far with TN ranked #10 in recruiting last year and currently around #5. Seems to be working so far for Kiffin. Once we reload, we'll be fine.
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Yeah, that's it. :eek:lol:
 
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CatawbaGator said:
We have two new coaches, each in their first year, one working with far less talent than the other. The one with less talent is innovative, uses the talent available to him in the best way possible, and starts winning. The other, who's just not all that good, isn't innovative, and relies on someone else's script (USC), focuses on fooling the unsophisticated UT fan base into thinking "Wait 'till next year!", and blaming their QB.
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so you are seriously saying UT is more talented than AU? Do you even watch football?
 
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IMO

1. Kiffin is an average coach not a great one. Chizek is a good coach not a great one either.

1A. A running team uses the run to help set up weak passing. The first quarter baffled me.

1B. Did we ever run a play that wasn't over the left side of the line?

2. I'm not buying the "cupboard is bare" of talent argument, great coaches will make something work with what they got. There is talent on this team.

3. Brandon Warren should not be a member of this team.

4. If we cannot beat UGA next week, there is no reason to keep Crompton in, even if Stevens is worse we need to start looking for what we can do next year. Open call the position.
 
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utvolpj said:
so you are seriously saying UT is more talented than AU? Do you even watch football?
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Yes, I do watch football, just not with orange colored glasses on. Those things mess with one's brain! Oh! I understand now. You're right. UT isn't as talented as AU, at least in the coaching ranks.
 
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CatawbaGator said:
Yes, I do watch football, just not with orange colored glasses on. Those things mess with one's brain! Oh! I understand now. You're right. UT isn't as talented as AU, at least in the coaching ranks.
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since you have it figured out, tell us where we're more talented? I'll give you defensive backfield and D line, when healthy. Having a better defensive backfield doesn't matter against them. They're throwing underneath and exposing linebackers. Our scheme places enormous responsibility on the linebackers. Ours clearly aren't ready to play. In the same vein, what the hell difference does it make if any team we play has a weak secondary? They only need to be in the vicinity.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
since you have it figured out, tell us where we're more talented? I'll give you defensive backfield and D line, when healthy. Having a better defensive backfield doesn't matter against them. They're throwing underneath and exposing linebackers. Our scheme places enormous responsibility on the linebackers. Ours clearly aren't ready to play. In the same vein, what the hell difference does it make if any team we play has a weak secondary? They only need to be in the vicinity.
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Offensive line was even.

We are better at running back.

our best TE was better than theirs
 
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BigPapaVol said:
since you have it figured out, tell us where we're more talented? I'll give you defensive backfield and D line, when healthy. Having a better defensive backfield doesn't matter against them. They're throwing underneath and exposing linebackers. Our scheme places enormous responsibility on the linebackers. Ours clearly aren't ready to play. In the same vein, what the hell difference does it make if any team we play has a weak secondary? They only need to be in the vicinity.
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You'd have better luck talking to that painted wall behind you. Gator fans only understand PS3 football logic, it's on their wave length. Anything else is just too complicated to understand.
 
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MontereyVol said:
Offensive line was even.

We are better at running back.

our best TE was better than theirs
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not sure on the OL since they rushed for more than we did. I would say our backs are a bit more talented but they couldn't get things going. QB, WR, LB, DB all really hurt us
 
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utvolpj said:
not sure on the OL since they rushed for more than we did. I would say our backs are a bit more talented but they couldn't get things going. QB, WR, LB, DB all really hurt us
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They rushed for more than us because they had almost two to one more plays and we inexplicably kept trying to throw the ball vs running.

I would say our best receiver was better than theirs, unfortunately he was also our running back :p
 
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