ChiSox's Buehrle hoped for Vick injury

#26
#26
For the record, he wasn't saying he wants to own a dog for himself. He was saying that he feels horrible that his actions mean his kids can no longer own dogs. I feel the same way. I wouldn't be shocked if the Humane Society was supportive of it, actually.

The only way he can ever prove that he changed is if he has the opportunity to choose against it. With constant supervision it's possible to ensure that no animals are injured, and his kids can not be punished for something for which they had no control
 
#27
#27
It's just an opinion. Can't help how you feel.

He served his time, I'm not disputing that. I don't think that means I have to get over what he did just because he served his time. That seems to be a big part of the supporters arguments.

Weed is illegal... oh well. Based on the laws, Vick did his time and weed should be illegal forever apparently. A 17 year old also got 10 years in prison because a 15 year old gave him head. Plaxico Burress shot accidentally shot himself and got two years while Stallworth killed someone and got two months. The laws and punishments are inconsistent. They are what they are but it doesn't mean you have to agree with them.

I'm nowhere near a perfect person, I just can't agree with what Vick did. He already went to court and paid a girl off for knowingly giving her std's. He took marijuana residue on an airplane. Someone(a witness I believe) was shot outside his party. He just seems like a bad apple all around despite having had millions of dollars to turn his life around. Plain and simple, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like the guy even if he didn't torture dogs for his amusement. That was just the last straw... the biggest slap in the face was bringing up the fact that he should be allowed to own dogs. Seriously? I sympathize with him wanting to own a dog about as much as I sympathize with a convicted child molester wanting to live next to an elementary school.

It is what it is... he's free to do what he wants. I can live with that. But don't tell me I have to agree with it just because he did his time according to the law. Just the other day, a young girl in another country was whipped to death because she was accused of having an affair with a married man. They later found out that she had been raped. I wouldn't agree with whipping a teenage girl even if she had an affair with a married man. My point is, he did the time based on what a small percentage of people thought was fit. I disagree.

If and when the time comes, feel free to throw me under the bus. I do question how many people would say "He served his time" if he was just random guy that nobody cared about. A lot of people would probably think he is scumbag trash that isn't fit to take their order at the Olive Garden. I believe being a famous athlete that amuses us on Sundays makes a lot of people more forgiving. He's their for our entertainment. If he was a shoe shiner, nobody would give a f*** and even more people would be glad to throw away the key. Jmo.

I work at Olive Garden...that hurt...
 
#28
#28
And no, I don't want to get in another argument.

So... I'm f'ed up for choosing animals over humans that abuse animals for fun. No argument needed. I'll accept that label just to avoid arguing.

"I started a thread on the topic and wrote a few paragraphs defending my position...but I really don't want to argue, guys. None of that." :)
 
#29
#29
What does rub me the wrong way is how others who have been convicted of MUCH worse are viewed in such a different light that Vick. Over the past 10 years, 3 former Tennessee football players have gotten behind the wheel of a car while drunk and killed someone. Yet I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who has the same "I hope he burns in hell" attitude with regards to Leonard Little, Dwayne Goodrich, or Donte Stallworth that so many have about Vick. Goodrich has served significant jail time and deservedly so. However, Vick's dogfighting jail time was 23 TIMES what Little and Stallworth received combined for the deaths of 2 people.

All of this
 
#30
#30
There's no way anyone can justify what Vick did, but the man has paid a hefty price for it, and continues to do so.
 
#31
#31
Chicago White Sox's Mark Buehrle hoped for a Michael Vick injury at times during 2010 season - ESPN Chicago


I'm on Buehrle's side.

And no, I don't want to get in another argument.

I think it's terrible that anyone would abuse an animal we domesticated to depend on us and make them fight to the death for their amusement. Especially when you play in front of 70,000 people and have 200 million dollars worth of deals. That should be enough excitement and money.

But, I get why people think I'm wrong for choosing sides with an animal over a human being.

So... I'm f'ed up for choosing animals over humans that abuse animals for fun. No argument needed. I'll accept that label just to avoid arguing.

I have agreed with almost everything you have posted since I have been on here. :rock: I think people who abuse a defenseless animal should be beaten to a bloody pulp in front of their wives and children. And then defecated on.
 
#32
#32
Chicago White Sox's Mark Buehrle hoped for a Michael Vick injury at times during 2010 season - ESPN Chicago


I'm on Buehrle's side.

And no, I don't want to get in another argument.

I think it's terrible that anyone would abuse an animal we domesticated to depend on us and make them fight to the death for their amusement. Especially when you play in front of 70,000 people and have 200 million dollars worth of deals. That should be enough excitement and money.

But, I get why people think I'm wrong for choosing sides with an animal over a human being.

So... I'm f'ed up for choosing animals over humans that abuse animals for fun. No argument needed. I'll accept that label just to avoid arguing.

Then why state all of your side of the argument if you don't want to argue? Obviously the other side doesn't want to hear your side either. He went to jail . Yeah he shouldn't of done that that to animals but people who do worse things to humans get more jail time than him. He got the MAX jail time he could get for what he did.. Wishing harm on someone brings you down to that level. You need to be bigger than that.
 
#34
#34
That's not how the judicial system in America works. The court of public opinion doesn't decide people's fates, thankfully. He went through the same court system that any other American would, and was sentenced under them same laws. I can easily understand why people don't like Vick, I don't dispute for one second that what he did was utterly contemptable.

What does rub me the wrong way is how others who have been convicted of MUCH worse are viewed in such a different light that Vick. Over the past 10 years, 3 former Tennessee football players have gotten behind the wheel of a car while drunk and killed someone. Yet I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who has the same "I hope he burns in hell" attitude with regards to Leonard Little, Dwayne Goodrich, or Donte Stallworth that so many have about Vick. Goodrich has served significant jail time and deservedly so. However, Vick's dogfighting jail time was 23 TIMES what Little and Stallworth received combined for the deaths of 2 people.

Thank You someone I finally agree with. I have never been a Vick fan but my gosh the guy went to prison and did his time. But if Vick wood have been drunk and speeding down a freeway and hit and killed someone. He could have went to jail for a month or so and all is forgotton.
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