Chasing Points

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tigervol9802

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Just curious as to everyone's thoughts on when you should chase points by going for 2 if you are down by 8 and you score a TD.

I'm of the opinion you wait until the 4th quarter to go for 2. Until then just kick the extra point.

Others?
 
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You never want to take yourself out of the football game earlier than you need to.

I'd wait until the last 5-10 minutes of a game to attempt a 2 point conversion.
 
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#3
I don't care what the little card says. Never, eeeevvver chase the point and go for 2 until the 4th quarter.
 
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Anytime after the first quarter. Preferably third quarter. I'm not a fan of waiting til the final 7 minutes or less in the 4th quarter. You may never get the ball back if you fail.
 
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#6
PAT's are overated.

1)Go for 2 everytime and if you're 50% on the season it evens out.

2)You can never kick field goals or PAT's and save a scholarship by not wasting it on a kicker.


You can just call me Hal Mumme.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
PAT's are overated.

1)Go for 2 everytime and if you're 50% on the season it evens out.

2)You can never kick field goals or PAT's and save a scholarship by not wasting it on a kicker.


You can just call me Hal Mumme.
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You are a fan of that high school coach in arkansas that never punts aren't you? (Which I'm not entirely opposed to BTW.)
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
PAT's are overated.

1)Go for 2 everytime and if you're 50% on the season it evens out.

2)You can never kick field goals or PAT's and save a scholarship by not wasting it on a kicker.


You can just call me Hal Mumme.
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Lol. Would lose so many games.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
You are a fan of that high school coach in arkansas that never punts aren't you? (Which I'm not entirely opposed to BTW.)
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He did that based on some sort of statistical analysis that said that the chances of his defense stopping the offense at the 40 wasn't a whole lot better than stopping them at the 10 or 15 yard line.

I disagree with that sentiment, but it's an interesting strategy, no doubt.
 
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I'm not saying my philosophy works. I'm just saying I loved doing it back in the day on NCAA with the regular Playstation. I thought I was the next coming of Steve Spurrier.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
I'm not saying my philosophy works. I'm just saying I loved doing it back in the day on NCAA with the regular Playstation. I thought I was the next coming of Steve Spurrier.
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And fittingly . . . calling plays on a Playstation is about as close as Hal Mumme is going to come to coaching at another BCS school.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
I'm not saying my philosophy works. I'm just saying I loved doing it back in the day on NCAA with the regular Playstation. I thought I was the next coming of Steve Spurrier.
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I've been playing with NCAA 99 the last few days.

Shotgun 5 WR - Ace is money for 2 points.
 
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if it's 19-21 in the 2nd quarter and i have the option of going for 2 to tie then i would go for the 2 points almost evertime. i realize that nobody wants to take yourself out of the game, but if you tie it back up or (in a rare instance) take the lead back due to a two point conversion prior to the 4th quarter than it can swing momentum back your way. plus if the situation calls for it, i would rathar go for 2 points earlier than late since it's more nerve wracking at the end of the game for players. just my 2 cents
 
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nickknx865 said:
He did that based on some sort of statistical analysis that said that the chances of his defense stopping the offense at the 40 wasn't a whole lot better than stopping them at the 10 or 15 yard line.

I disagree with that sentiment, but it's an interesting strategy, no doubt.
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Oh at the high school level, within bounds it makes a lot of sense.

BC's coach thinks like most of us here do apparently. We have a case study.
 
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This brings up another interesting strategy I've heard before.

Was watching the Yale-Fordham game(yea, I watch Ivy League ball), and they were talking about last year's Harvard-Yale game. Evidently, Harvard was up 10-7 with 2:30 to go in the game, and attempted a fake punt on 4th and 22 from their own 26 yard line.

Yale took the ball, and won 14-10.
 
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nickknx865 said:
This brings up another interesting strategy I've heard before.

Was watching the Yale-Fordham game(yea, I watch Ivy League ball), and they were talking about last year's Harvard-Yale game. Evidently, Harvard was up 10-7 with 2:30 to go in the game, and attempted a fake punt on 4th and 22 from their own 26 yard line.

Yale took the ball, and won 14-10.
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That alone is brain damaged. When you factor in on their own 26... wow.

I really think more coaches should go for 4th downs on their own side of the field though. When it's 4th and a short 1 that is. If I'm out to the 30 or beyond, I'm trusting my o-line and qb to get the sneak.
 
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I'd go for 2 the first chance I get. That's probably why I lost my coaching gig. PeeWee league ain't no joke fellas!
 
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GAVol said:
It blows my mind that so many guys rely on that card like it's the Bible. It's like they are incapable of doing 4th grade math on the fly.
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It's ridiculous to listen to grown men referring to "the card" like it was handed down on Mount Sinai.

One of the greatest and most underrated (because it's not even remembered) coaching decisions of the last 50 years was Mack Brown not chasing points in the title game against USC. Had he done so and seen the percentages bounce out according to average, Vince Young's touchdown and extra point would have only tied the game instead of giving Texas a three-point lead.

nickknx865 said:
This brings up another interesting strategy I've heard before.

Was watching the Yale-Fordham game(yea, I watch Ivy League ball), and they were talking about last year's Harvard-Yale game. Evidently, Harvard was up 10-7 with 2:30 to go in the game, and attempted a fake punt on 4th and 22 from their own 26 yard line.

Yale took the ball, and won 14-10.
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We did this a few years back. Up 12-8, about four minutes left, and a fake punt on our own 15 facing a 4th-and-6. We converted and had only to run out the clock to win and finish an otherwise bad season.

Instead, the ensuing snap was fumbled, they recovered, and scored quickly to win 16-12.

The_Orange_Pearl said:
That alone is brain damaged. When you factor in on their own 26... wow.

I really think more coaches should go for 4th downs on their own side of the field though. When it's 4th and a short 1 that is. If I'm out to the 30 or beyond, I'm trusting my o-line and qb to get the sneak.
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The coach who made the call I referenced right above this quote was me. Brain damaged? Nah...just a loud "clink" from between my legs when I walk around.:blink:
 
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