Chaney

[rickyyrs]

I think one of Dooley's first mistakes was keeping one of Kiffin's hire. Kiffin made all the calls when he was coach. Is it Chaney's play calling or the players. I thought it was Chaney's calling. When you have a 3rd and 3 and throw the ball down field 25 yards incomplete is a bunch of bull. Pick up a first down with a short pass and keep our defense off the field. Against Alabama we had a 3rd and 1 we have to call a time out. Bray then throws the ball over the sideline. Then we come back and run AJ who Alabama knows what he is going to do and we get stuffed 2 yards behind the line.

 

[oregonvol]

could be Chaney, could be Sunseri, could be the players...it's a good thing we've got one person who is responsible for all of them.

 

[ncvol17]

I do agree that Chaney is not the man. Will be interesting to see if he is immediately picked up by another team. That would show what the coaching fraternity thinks of him.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Ok, I do not like that we have thrown long on 3rd and 1 several times. But as someone said, if that works...you are a genius.

Yes, the series where AJ ended up getting stuffed on fourth down was a complete mess.

Bray had a really bad game last Saturday. No way around that.

In general, I am still ok with Chaney. We have scored a ton of points with his play calling. It is our defense and kicking games that have really hurt us.

 

[GBOVOLS]

About every decision that CDD has made has been a mistake Chaney was just one in a many. Any way Chaney's offence isn't SEC friendly at all especially with his play calling. I wish we used our TE and Neals pass catching ability more instead of chucking the ball for 25 yards all the time.

 

[wilrob75]

Going into the bama game we averaged 180+ yds rushing per game, and had the second best passer in the SEC...And all of this despite having one of the absolute worst defenses in TN history. What more do you want the guy to do?

 

[armchair]

You need a dependable short passing game to have a good offense: That is something Chaney doesn't get. You don't throw high risk 20 yard passes when you need 3 yards to make a first. Manning and Brady never do it for a reason--you lower you chances of completing the pass. They throw 5 or 7 yard passes, make the first and continue the drive. Smart football vs. dumb football.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

I don't like Chaney. I never have. His play calling is very suspect IMO.

However,

-no one else has scored 31 on MS State
-no one else has scored 44 on Georgia
-no one else has scored 20 on Florida
-only 2 other teams have scored more than 13 on Bama, and both times it was 14

Offense is not the problem here.

 

[VolFootballlover]

You guys are wrong about Chaney, Dooley tells him what he wants on most 3rd downs. Dooley admitted yesterday in the Bama,Georgia,MSU game he called the passing plays on 3rd downs trying to hit big plays.Dooley even said his wife asked why he's calling passing plays on 3rd and short. Chaney is a lot better than anyone here gives him credit for. THE HEAD COACH tells him what he wants in certain situations and Chaney finds a play to that degree. If Dooley wanted to run it ,Chaney would call a run based on the personnel on the field

 

[AndyMizunogolfer]

Ok, I do not like that we have thrown long on 3rd and 1 several times. But as someone said, if that works...you are a genius.

Yes, the series where AJ ended up getting stuffed on fourth down was a complete mess.

Bray had a really bad game last Saturday. No way around that.

In general, I am still ok with Chaney. We have scored a ton of points with his play calling. It is our defense and kicking games that have really hurt us.

I am not sure if its playcalling or the guy at center calling the plays. If its the guy at center then bench him. We have had multiple 3rd and shorts and throwing the ball 20 yards down the field into double and triple coverage. The kicker for me is that we have RB's that are pretty solid recievers. They are open on a lot of the passes we are throwing it deep on.

 

[VolFootballlover]

I don't like Chaney. I never have. His play calling is very suspect IMO.

However,

-no one else has scored 31 on MS State
-no one else has scored 44 on Georgia
-no one else has scored 20 on Florida
-only 2 other teams have scored more than 13 on Bama, and both times it was 14

Offense is not the problem here.

well said. I can't believe all the guys trying to blame Chaney . Offense is not the problem .Keep Dooley off the Head set

 

[Jax_Vol]

I am not sure if its playcalling or the guy at center calling the plays. If its the guy at center then bench him. We have had multiple 3rd and shorts and throwing the ball 20 yards down the field into double and triple coverage. The kicker for me is that we have RB's that are pretty solid recievers. They are open on a lot of the passes we are throwing it deep on.

I think what we are saying there is...

These are better teams that we are playing. So throwing long on third and 1 is somewhat like an on-side kick. We are trying to trick them with a big play.

So down deep, Dools and/or Chaney know we probably can't move it down the field. So they are hoping to get a big quick strike with a bomb on third and one

 

[WhatInVolnation]

Some of Chaney's playcalling (or is it Dooley's?) frustrates me. Chaney, however, is running one of the best offenses in the SEC. Offense is not the problem this year.

 

[Jax_Vol]

You guys are wrong about Chaney, Dooley tells him what he wants on most 3rd downs. Dooley admitted yesterday in the Bama,Georgia,MSU game he called the passing plays on 3rd downs trying to hit big plays.Dooley even said his wife asked why he's calling passing plays on 3rd and short. Chaney is a lot better than anyone here gives him credit for. THE HEAD COACH tells him what he wants in certain situations and Chaney finds a play to that degree. If Dooley wanted to run it ,Chaney would call a run based on the personnel on the field

Yes, I can believe 100% of that story.

Everyone thought Kiffy was all sexy. But in calling the plays, he was very conservative in my opinion. Dools has taken more chances with the trick type stuff.

 

[ManningBerry#1]

I think one of Dooley's first mistakes was keeping one of Kiffin's hire. Kiffin made all the calls when he was coach. Is it Chaney's play calling or the players. I thought it was Chaney's calling. When you have a 3rd and 3 and throw the ball down field 25 yards incomplete is a bunch of bull. Pick up a first down with a short pass and keep our defense off the field. Against Alabama we had a 3rd and 1 we have to call a time out. Bray then throws the ball over the sideline. Then we come back and run AJ who Alabama knows what he is going to do and we get stuffed 2 yards behind the line.

Dooley admitted on Vol talk last night that the 3&1 call before the failed 4th down conversion was his call. He told Chaney to call it. So there goes the idea it's all Chaney when it's both of them.

 

[chattavol420]

I don't like Chaney. I never have. His play calling is very suspect IMO.

However,

-no one else has scored 31 on MS State
-no one else has scored 44 on Georgia
-no one else has scored 20 on Florida
-only 2 other teams have scored more than 13 on Bama, and both times it was 14

Offense is not the problem here.

true...however in all of these games except we got behind big early. these games kinda had a shootout mantility.

 

[ZoSo0789]

You need a dependable short passing game to have a good offense: That is something Chaney doesn't get. You don't throw high risk 20 yard passes when you need 3 yards to make a first. Manning and Brady never do it for a reason--you lower you chances of completing the pass. They throw 5 or 7 yard passes, make the first and continue the drive. Smart football vs. dumb football.

completely incorrect. I've personally watched Manning throw 40+ yard bombs to Marvin Harrison on 4th and inches.

Chaney isn't the one to TELLS Bray to risk these bombs, but the routes are a part of the play regardless. Doesn't mean its the first read that Chaney intends Bray to throw to. Bray has big play mentality, and its hard to coach him out of that when thats his first instincts.

 

[VolsFanRJ]

Chaney doesn't coach defense. That's all I have to say about that.

 

[rickyyrs]

completely incorrect. I've personally watched Manning throw 40+ yard bombs to Marvin Harrison on 4th and inches.

Chaney isn't the one to TELLS Bray to risk these bombs, but the routes are a part of the play regardless. Doesn't mean its the first read that Chaney intends Bray to throw to. Bray has big play mentality, and its hard to coach him out of that when thats his first instincts.

Big play mentality? In SEC play Bray has 21 TDs and 20 INTs. You talking big play for us or the other team. Go check his stats in SEC play. Then it's Dooley's fault for letting Bray do what he wants. Bray would only see the field from the sidelines if he played for Saban.

 

[sjt18]

I think one of Dooley's first mistakes was keeping one of Kiffin's hire. Kiffin made all the calls when he was coach. Is it Chaney's play calling or the players. I thought it was Chaney's calling. When you have a 3rd and 3 and throw the ball down field 25 yards incomplete is a bunch of bull. Pick up a first down with a short pass and keep our defense off the field. Against Alabama we had a 3rd and 1 we have to call a time out. Bray then throws the ball over the sideline. Then we come back and run AJ who Alabama knows what he is going to do and we get stuffed 2 yards behind the line.

The main thing wrong with the O is that no one has been able to get Bray's head straight. Kiffin sent T Boyd packing because he thought he could get one of about 5 top tier QB's. He whiffed and finally went after Bray whose only other offer was SDSU iirc.

I do not know if Chaney has approached Dooley about replacing Bray. I do know that coaching is not improving Bray's play in pressure situations. FTR, Chaney and Kiffin for that matter were in love with Worley after his Jr year. Bray was an after thought. Worley was a prime target. Lest you think that would have been out of character for Kiffin remember that Leinhart was a smart guy who made great decisions throwing to great receivers.... with a so-so arm. Kiffin has a similar guy who could win the Heisman now.


Chaney's O has produced yards and points against everyone this season except Bama. Chaney is NOT the problem.

 

[sjt18]

BTW, one a couple of those plays if Bray throws an accurate pass or the receiver makes a play on the ball... then the story is different. Some of those throwing stones now would be throwing roses.

 

[ZoSo0789]

Big play mentality? In SEC play Bray has 21 TDs and 20 INTs. You talking big play for us or the other team. Go check his stats in SEC play. Then it's Dooley's fault for letting Bray do what he wants. Bray would only see the field from the sidelines if he played for Saban.

Not that I disagree with that, but honestly, how many of those INTS are in garbage time when he's TRYING to risk down field throws or are essentially hail marys at the end of a half? Many of them are. And I'm not a Bray fan at all, but honestly....

And yes it comes down to the coaches for continuously letting him go out there and perform that way. But hell, the coaches can't go out there and throw the ball for them too (though I so wish Dooley could go play WR from time to time lol). Coaching can only go so far on some people and it's ultimately up to the player to execute what they're told to do. If they cant do that, its up to the coaches to take them out.

 

[bamacheats]

Those throws on 3rd and short are bad calls because Tyler Bray has the worst play action technique in college football.

 

[ZoSo0789]

Those throws on 3rd and short are bad calls because Tyler Bray has the worst play action technique in college football.

maybe not THAT bad lol, but yes his PA technique is pretty terrible. It's a real half-arse hand off fake.... you can tell immediately after the snap if its pass or run.

 

[bamacheats]

maybe not THAT bad lol, but yes his PA technique is pretty terrible. It's a real half-arse hand off fake.... you can tell immediately after the snap if its pass or run.

I've not seen someone worse.