Chaney scoring points, but...

[Eddie Vol Halen]

... he is still not an SEC OC. I maintain you could draw plays in the dirt and score a lot of points with this offense.

1. There has been zero development of Bray as a big-time QB.

2. Play-calling cost us Florida game, minimum. I think we have one of the most feast / famine high-octane offenses I've ever seen. The 3rd and short situations are absolutely ridiculous.

3. When Chaney's offense was throwing the ball well, we couldn't run. Now that he can run the football, he can't pass.

4. The philosophy. Pre-season Dooley said he bought into Chaney's "new philosophy" on offense. Doing what we do best. Since the NCST game, our run game has been consistent (despite Chaney's best efforts) and put up yards on the best defenses in the land while Bray and the passing game have stagnated. Dooley got the philosophy wrong again.

I'm killing time until the Gruden press conference. The defense is the #1 problem, but Chaney must still shoulder a lot of the blame too. We've scored a lot of points, but we've also left a lot of points on the field. Thoughts?

 

[Cartervol]

Yeah they've left some points on the field.. Made bad decisions at times also.. This defense is just about forcing them to play a perfect game though.. That just doesn't happen often, if at all..

 

[tvols75]

... he is still not an SEC OC. I maintain you could draw plays in the dirt and score a lot of points with this offense.

1. There has been zero development of Bray as a big-time QB.

2. Play-calling cost us Florida game, minimum. I think we have one of the most feast / famine high-octane offenses I've ever seen. The 3rd and short situations are absolutely ridiculous.

3. When Chaney's offense was throwing the ball well, we couldn't run. Now that he can run the football, he can't pass.

4. The philosophy. Pre-season Dooley said he bought into Chaney's "new philosophy" on offense. Doing what we do best. Since the NCST game, our run game has been consistent (despite Chaney's best efforts) and put up yards on the best defenses in the land while Bray and the passing game have stagnated. Dooley got the philosophy wrong again.

I'm killing time until the Gruden press conference. The defense is the #1 problem, but Chaney must still shoulder a lot of the blame too. We've scored a lot of points, but we've also left a lot of points on the field. Thoughts?

I bet there aren't many bad OCs that averaged 30 ppg in SEC play.

 

[BenGrimm]

I agree that getting away from the run vs FL was a mistake. However, there were key drops that ended drives on correct play calls.

Other than that the offense has gotten better and more creative each week. They are constantly searching for ways to get the ball into CPs hands and trying to get Pig Howard involved (he did throw a TD yesterday). We've gone against some of the top defenses in the country and shredded them (with the exception of Bama).

As for Bray's development, well maybe Bray just doesn't have 'it'. That's just a reality.

 

[VolFootballlover]

You are so wrong... Stats don't lie. Chaney has one of the best Offenses in the SEC! Chaney has been over ruled by Dooley in situations thats out of Chaney's control. We don't have RB's like other SEC teams. Have you been able to see any of our guys break a tackle or make some one miss? (We have 1 guy thats plays WR that embarrasses our RB's when He plays RB) Chaney is not the problem what the hell is wrong with you guys? Make all those 500 + 3rd and long stops this season and you would see even more offensive yards. I can not believe how many of you blame Chaney! Offense is by far not the problem!

 

[TennesseeOrange]

Yeah they've left some points on the field.. Made bad decisions at times also.. This defense is just about forcing them to play a perfect game though.. That just doesn't happen often, if at all..

This. When you give up over 38 a game, and are consistently down 14, you have an extremely small margin for error.

 

[yohdoe34]

Yeah they've left some points on the field.. Made bad decisions at times also.. This defense is just about forcing them to play a perfect game though.. That just doesn't happen often, if at all..

Imagine how good we could play if we weren't down 3 TD's all the time.

 

[BenGrimm]

Yeah they've left some points on the field.. Made bad decisions at times also.. This defense is just about forcing them to play a perfect game though.. That just doesn't happen often, if at all..

Exactly! If they don't score on the first three drives then the D puts them in a 2 score hole real quick. From then on they play catch up the rest of the game.

 

[utkell65]

I bet there aren't many bad OCs that averaged 30 ppg in SEC play.

The biggest problem with chaney is his play calling. How many times have we seen 3rd and short and then see Bray slinging it 20 and 30 yards down field?

 

[ImportedVoL]

This is retarded..

Our offense did awesome yesterday.. 472 yards of offense against that defense is a great showing.

No one plays a perfect game, and to expect that is insanity

Defense needs to step up period.. end of story

stop giving up 40 points a game and our record would be drastically different.


Just really it boils down to, lets stop being dumb..place blame where it is due

 

[tvols75]

The biggest problem with chaney is his play calling. How many times have we seen 3rd and short and then see Bray slinging it 20 and 30 yards down field?

How many OCs in the SEC in the last decade have averaged 30 ppg in sec play? Also, there are multiple routes on third and short, and it's up to the qb to pick best route.

 

[Eddie Vol Halen]

Yeah they've left some points on the field.. Made bad decisions at times also.. This defense is just about forcing them to play a perfect game though.. That just doesn't happen often, if at all..

This is true. I've just got to get my weekly Jim Chaney rant out.

I really don't like him, and the whole issue on philosophy in the off-season really cheeses me off. It just shows he didn't want to develop the run game, but Dooley's two best hires have demonstrated it is clearly a team strength and could have been leaned on more in pressure situations.

Even the AJ wildcat just cheeses me off now. Everyone knows it is going off-tackle right.

 

[HankHill]

... he is still not an SEC OC. I maintain you could draw plays in the dirt and score a lot of points with this offense.

1. There has been zero development of Bray as a big-time QB.

2. Play-calling cost us Florida game, minimum. I think we have one of the most feast / famine high-octane offenses I've ever seen. The 3rd and short situations are absolutely ridiculous.

3. When Chaney's offense was throwing the ball well, we couldn't run. Now that he can run the football, he can't pass.

4. The philosophy. Pre-season Dooley said he bought into Chaney's "new philosophy" on offense. Doing what we do best. Since the NCST game, our run game has been consistent (despite Chaney's best efforts) and put up yards on the best defenses in the land while Bray and the passing game have stagnated. Dooley got the philosophy wrong again.

I'm killing time until the Gruden press conference. The defense is the #1 problem, but Chaney must still shoulder a lot of the blame too. We've scored a lot of points, but we've also left a lot of points on the field. Thoughts?

We have score over 30 in 3 sec road games. Offense is fine.

Chaney is one of the most respected Ocoord in the country.

I dont know if you didnt notice but didnt we just throw for 350yds against USC?

and yes, jim Chaney's unit's gave up those 70yd wildcat td runs vs UF

 

[VolFootballlover]

The biggest problem with chaney is his play calling. How many times have we seen 3rd and short and then see Bray slinging it 20 and 30 yards down field?

pay attention " Dooley called Those Plays and admitted to it in Monday pressconfrences"!

 

[HankHill]

This is true. I've just got to get my weekly Jim Chaney rant out.

I really don't like him, and the whole issue on philosophy in the off-season really cheeses me off. It just shows he didn't want to develop the run game, but Dooley's two best hires have demonstrated it is clearly a team strength and could have been leaned on more in pressure situations.

Even the AJ wildcat just cheeses me off now. Everyone knows it is going off-tackle right.

I dont like the Wildcat but when you dont have a SEC caliber back or just a short yardage back for that matter, you have to do what you can..

and btw The beast has picked up a TD or 1st down 80% of the time

 

[Spawn]

The biggest problem with chaney is his play calling. How many times have we seen 3rd and short and then see Bray slinging it 20 and 30 yards down field?

Your hating on the wrong coach. Try Defense or Head Coaches

Our OC is killing it with Over 30pts / game. Chaney is not losing the game for us. Crazy to even go there.

 

[BenGrimm]

The biggest problem with chaney is his play calling. How many times have we seen 3rd and short and then see Bray slinging it 20 and 30 yards down field?

If you really broke it down probably just a handful. I see the Beast package out there on 3 n short much more often.

This one is kind of like Arian Foster fumbling. It really didn't happen as much as some people think but the negative times stick in their mind more than the positives. Which is sad.

 

[HankHill]

The biggest problem with chaney is his play calling. How many times have we seen 3rd and short and then see Bray slinging it 20 and 30 yards down field?

That is the best time to take a shot downfield! The D is keying on the run, and we have impact WRs and a good QB,

How many times have you seen Brady,Manning,Breese,Ryan,Rivers, pretty much any NFL team throw a deep pass on 3rd and short

 

[esarmstrong]

Ha! The Chaney haters will always find reasons to say he can't coach, even in the face of the fact that this offense is clearly showing signs of signifcant improvement from the very beginning of the year. Last year, we were poor on offense, most likely due to injuries, but Chaney still caught he!!. Earlier in the year the complaint was we couldn't run the ball, but that greatly improved, starting in the Florida game and even more noticably against Georgia. This is in spite of the fact that we do not have anything approaching an upper tier running back.

It is probably best for the Chaney haters to simply keep their mouth closed rather than open it to prove the ridiculous nature of their positions. The guy can clearly coach and he has a good imagination when it comes to play calling.

 

[VolFootballlover]

Your hating on the wrong coach. Try Defense or Head Coaches

Our OC is killing it with Over 30pts / game. Chaney is not losing the game for us. Crazy to even go there.

I swear do they even watch the game? Wide open WR's (bad throw,dropped balls) Chaney can not throw and catch !

 

[Eddie Vol Halen]

This is retarded..

Our offense did awesome yesterday.. 472 yards of offense against that defense is a great showing.

No one plays a perfect game, and to expect that is insanity

Defense needs to step up period.. end of story

stop giving up 40 points a game and our record would be drastically different.


Just really it boils down to, lets stop being dumb..place blame where it is due

I agree the defense magnifies every mistake and misstep, however small, of the offense.

However, the point is, ANYONE could put up big numbers with this offense. Meanwhile, Chaney has done nothing to develop Bray's potential and failed to recognize the importance of the run game in the offseason, and moreover, that it was a real team strength. I find that damning, but I've disliked his tenure from the beginning.

I was among the first to say we would be SECE champions with Wilcox though. Regardless, long live Gruden!

 

[VolFootballlover]

I agree the defense magnifies every mistake and misstep, however small, of the offense.

However, the point is, ANYONE could put up big numbers with this offense. Meanwhile, Chaney has done nothing to develop Bray's potential and failed to recognize the importance of the run game in the off season, and moreover, that it was a real team strength. I find that damning, but I've disliked his tenure from the beginning.

I was among the first to say we would be SECE champions with Wilcox though. Regardless, long live Gruden!

Wrong... You would trade This offense for the 97 offense? We have played a harder schedule, better teams and still put up more yards even when teams knew we was playing catch up. You make just 1/3 of those 3rd down stops and your praising Chaney!

 

[HankHill]

I agree the defense magnifies every mistake and misstep, however small, of the offense.

However, the point is, ANYONE could put up big numbers with this offense. Meanwhile, Chaney has done nothing to develop Bray's potential and failed to recognize the importance of the run game in the offseason, and moreover, that it was a real team strength. I find that damning, but I've disliked his tenure from the beginning.

I was among the first to say we would be SECE champions with Wilcox though. Regardless, long live Gruden!

Have you seen our run #s compared to last year?

You are so wrong about Chaney, Everyone points to the 3rd year

and its our 3rd year and Our Offense is one of the best in the SEC (maybe the best)

if this is wilcox 3rd year we are are at least middle of the road on D

and probably have 1 MAYBE 2 losses but I think we get UF with wilcox

 

[calban]

I'd take this offense over any in the SEC.
If Wilcox hadn't bolted we'd be 7-1.
Put the blame where it belongs.

 

[NMVol]

I don't know seems to me 3 times on the road in the SEC we have fumbled in the clutch in the 4th quarter driving for the win. Somethings just not right. Not sure what.