CBJ vs previous Coaches

#26
#26
BeardedVol said:
You know it's a good season when fans have to go back 46 years to defend the current coaching staff.

Again, context. The SECE is literally, worse this year, than any of the years that you have above. Any of those coaches you've listed, with the current roster, would have no problem cruising to a spot in ATL.
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There was no "east" for most of those years. Kentucky has always stunk, Vanderbilt has always stunk, Georgia was up and down but had plenty of bad years, South Carolina and Missouri weren't in the SEC, Florida was up and down and we didn't play them a lot. After there was an east Fulmer couldn't beat Florida with the best QB of all time. There's your context.
 
#28
#28
Let's face it. CBJ gets paid pretty well to put up with the critics. And there will always be people that will criticize every year unless we at least win the SECCG. I have a good friend that has completely given up and won't even watch the games any more because we lost to USCjr. Sure, that was a bad loss, but I'm looking at the big picture.
 
#29
#29
VolAllen said:
In today's instant gratification society, Majors would have been fired in 1980 or 1982 at the latest.
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So now expecting CBJ to meet the goals that he set himself in the 4th season is "instant gratification"?

What in your opinion is a reasonable expectation? 6 years? 8 years?
 
#31
#31
BeardedVol said:
So now expecting CBJ to meet the goals that he set himself in the 4th season is "instant gratification"?

What in your opinion is a reasonable expectation? 6 years? 8 years?
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I would say if he hasn't won the East by year 6, it's time to go. But, not if he's 10-3 like we could be this year. As badly as I want to win the big one, a 10-3 coach just shouldn't be fired.
 
#32
#32
tennesseeduke said:
Here is a comparison to the previous coaches back to 1970.

Bill Battle
Tennessee Volunteers (1970–1976)
1970 Tennessee 11–1 4–1 2nd W Sugar 4 4
1971 Tennessee 10–2 4–2 T–4th W Liberty 9 9
1972 Tennessee 10–2 4–2 4th W Bluebonnet 11 8
1973 Tennessee 8–4 3–3 4th L Gator 19
1974 Tennessee 7–3–2 2–3–1 T–7th W Liberty 15 20
1975 Tennessee 7–5 3–3 5th
1976 Tennessee 6–5 2–4 8th
Tennessee: 59–22–2 22–18–1

Johnny Majors:
Tennessee Volunteers (1977–1992)
1977 Tennessee 4–7 1–5 8th
1978 Tennessee 5–5–1 3–3 T–4th
1979 Tennessee 7–5 3–3 T–5th L Bluebonnet
1980 Tennessee 5–6 3–3 6th
1981 Tennessee 8–4 3–3 T–4th W Garden State
1982 Tennessee 6–5–1 3–2–1 5th L Peach
1983 Tennessee 9–3 4–2 T–3rd W Citrus
1984 Tennessee 7–4–1 3–3 T–5th L Sun
1985 Tennessee 9–1–2 5–1 1st W Sugar 4 4
1986 Tennessee 7–5 3–3 6th W Liberty
1987 Tennessee 10–2–1 4–1–1 3rd W Peach 13 14
1988 Tennessee 5–6 3–4 T–6th
1989 Tennessee 11–1 6–1 T–1st W Cotton 5 5
1990 Tennessee 9–2–2 5–1–1 1st W Sugar 7 8
1991 Tennessee 9–3 5–2 3rd L Fiesta 15 14
1992 Tennessee 5–3* 3–3* 3rd 12* 12*
Tennessee: 116–62–8 57–40–3 *Three early games and the Bowl game are credited to Phillip Fulmer.

Philip Fulmer
Tennessee Volunteers (1992–2008)
1992 Tennessee 4–0* 2–0* 3rd W Hall of Fame 12 12
1993 Tennessee 10–2 7–1 2nd L Citrus 11 12
1994 Tennessee 8–4 5–3 2nd W Gator† 18 22
1995 Tennessee 11–1 7–1 2nd W Citrus 2 3
1996 Tennessee 10–2 7–1 2nd W Citrus 9 9
1997 Tennessee 11–2 7–1 1st L Orange† 8 7
1998 Tennessee 13–0 8–0 1st W Fiesta† 1 1
1999 Tennessee 9–3 6–2 2nd L Fiesta† 9 9
2000 Tennessee 8–4 5–3 2nd L Cotton 25
2001 Tennessee 11–2 7–1 1st W Citrus 4 4
2002 Tennessee 8–5 5–3 3rd L Peach
2003 Tennessee 10–3 6–2 T–1st L Peach 16 15
2004 Tennessee 10–3 7–1 1st W Cotton 15 13
2005 Tennessee 5–6 3–5 4th
2006 Tennessee 9–4 5–3 2nd L Outback 23 25
2007 Tennessee 10–4 6–2 T–1st W Outback 12 12
2008 Tennessee 5–7 3–5 5th
Total: 152–52

Lane Kiffin
Tennessee Volunteers (2009)
2009 Tennessee 7–6 4–4 T–2nd L Chick-Fil-A

Derek Dooley
Tennessee Volunteers (2010–2012)
2010 Tennessee 6–7 3–5 T–3rd L Music City
2011 Tennessee 5–7 1–7 6th
2012 Tennessee 4–7* 0–7 6th

Butch Jones
Tennessee Volunteers (2013–present)
2013 Tennessee 5–7 2–6 6th
2014 Tennessee 7–6 3–5 T–4th W TaxSlayer
2015 Tennessee 9–4 5–3 T–2nd W Outback 23 22
2016 Tennessee 8–3 4–3

CBJ is comparable to Battle, Majors and Fulmer. Better than Kiffin and Dooley!

Someone please explain why he would be on the hot seat with this resume' considering what he inherited. 2 bowl wins over higher ranked teams and more wins year over year.

I'm glad you're hear CBJ and I support you!

Go Vols!

:loco:

Tennesseeduke
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Bill Battle was a very good xs nd os coach. His problem was his inability to recruit football players. His record shows he could win with Dickey’s talent and that his winning percentage dropped off when he had to coach his recruits. Dickey was a very good coach and recruiter at Tennessee, but for some reason did not do as well at UF. He drew some really outstanding players out of Georgia for us.

There was a reason why he was selected as our AD and I think he was a good AD.
 
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#34
#34
tennesseeduke said:
Really? Football kicked off, Offense and defense and special teams still played. Seems the same game to me.

:thud:

Tennesseeduke
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You know that's not what I mean. Today those mediocre numbers would have got Majors fired before he could succeed. Butch would have been a God with his first 4 year numbers back then.
 
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