Can Trump TRULY unify the GOP, or has that ship sailed?

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Won't bother with a poll as there are really just two options, yes or no.

When asked how the party can be united when some senior Republicans had previously blamed Trump for the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack, Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio said: “No real Republican with any credibility in the party is still blaming him.”



I realize these guys compromise principles for politics every single day and so publicly they must endorse him. But its hard to get out of your mind the images of both Dem and GOP leadership being hustled to safety by those charged with their security.

I'd have to say that this is the biggest impediment I would have to voting for Trump, personally, despite the fact that in all likelihood I, personally, would benefit from a Trump, Part Deux. But I just don't see how anyone can with a shred of dignity or principle, anyone who claims to stand up for the US of A, could ever simply let bygones by by gone with the entire fiasco, from start to finish, not just 1/6, but the entirety of it. The vitriol, the misrepresentations of the basic facts.


We've got a million threads or comments about this, but this is a narrower question. How can anyone in the GOP, the party that wraps itself in the flag, ever vote for someone who fundamentally tried to defeat the very ideals and processes that define the US of A? Makes no sense to me.
 
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Another Trump thread by LG...

Rent free

First, I am so glad that you are on the other side of this from me. I wear that as a badge of honor.

Second, it was a pretty momentous event and really amounted to an insurrection and a failed coup. History will be the judge of the MAGA crowd claims that it was a simple tour gone awry.
 
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It depends upon a percentage level that you would count as “unified”. Trump does not and will not ever get the support of the entire party; just like Biden will never fully unify the Democrats. You will have the Bernie Bros and s vanishingly small group of conservative (mostly rural Democrats in red states) who buck the trend.
But for all practical purposes, the never-Trump wing of the Republican Party is now about as relevant to the national picture as are the pro-life Democrats.
Any remaining prominent and influential anti Trump Republicans have gotten behind him thanks to the lawfare debacle pushed by Democrats in various jurisdictions.
 
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Won't bother with a poll as there are really just two options, yes or no.





I realize these guys compromise principles for politics every single day and so publicly they must endorse him. But its hard to get out of your mind the images of both Dem and GOP leadership being hustled to safety by those charged with their security.

I'd have to say that this is the biggest impediment I would have to voting for Trump, personally, despite the fact that in all likelihood I, personally, would benefit from a Trump, Part Deux. But I just don't see how anyone can with a shred of dignity or principle, anyone who claims to stand up for the US of A, could ever simply let bygones by by gone with the entire fiasco, from start to finish, not just 1/6, but the entirety of it. The vitriol, the misrepresentations of the basic facts.


We've got a million threads or comments about this, but this is a narrower question. How can anyone in the GOP, the party that wraps itself in the flag, ever vote for someone who fundamentally tried to defeat the very ideals and processes that define the US of A? Makes no sense to me.
So your still blaming Trump for J6 even after video of Pelosi saying it's her fault that the NG wasn't there...

 
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JD Vance is a loathsome, traitorous extremist--a fascist.

"No real Republican with any credibility is still blaming him."

Obviously, nearly all have long since stopped publicly blaming him because they're all cowards who fear for their jobs. Job security is the only thing
that keeps most GOP clowns from publicly blaming him for Jan 6 or from acknowledging anything that embarrasses or highlights GOP failures or weaknesses: they fear the irrational Earl vote--the overalls and beards MAGA crazies.

They all know he's the reason for Jan. 6---a blind and deaf person knows that---but Repubs just want to keep their jobs.
 
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Second, it was a pretty momentous event and really amounted to an insurrection and a failed coup. History will be the judge of the MAGA crowd claims that it was a simple tour gone awry.
This nonsense is akin to your characterization that one either swear fealty to Fauci and his proclamations, or be aligned with MTG.

It’s not an either/or.

Jan 6 was neither a “simple tour gone awry” or an insurrectionist coup.

It was an ugly, violent riot. That resulted in death, injury, and a black eye on this nation.
 
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It depends upon a percentage level that you would count as “unified”. Trump does not and will not ever get the support of the entire party; just like Biden will never fully unify the Democrats. You will have the Bernie Bros and s vanishingly small group of conservative (mostly rural Democrats in red states) who buck the trend.
But for all practical purposes, the never-Trump wing of the Republican Party is now about as relevant to the national picture as are the pro-life Democrats.
Any remaining prominent and influential anti Trump Republicans have gotten behind him thanks to the lawfare debacle pushed by Democrats in various jurisdictions.
The difference is that the leftists will vote for him in November of he is the guy.
 
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First, I am so glad that you are on the other side of this from me. I wear that as a badge of honor.

Second, it was a pretty momentous event and really amounted to an insurrection and a failed coup. History will be the judge of the MAGA crowd claims that it was a simple tour gone awry.
Good Lord.
 
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This nonsense is akin to your characterization that one either swear fealty to Fauci and his proclamations, or be aligned with MTG.

It’s not an either/or.

Jan 6 was neither a “simple tour gone awry” or an insurrectionist coup.

It was an ugly, violent riot. That resulted in death, injury, and a black eye on this nation.
Way worse than the 'Summer of Love'
 
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First, I am so glad that you are on the other side of this from me. I wear that as a badge of honor.

Second, it was a pretty momentous event and really amounted to an insurrection and a failed coup. History will be the judge of the MAGA crowd claims that it was a simple tour gone awry.
Blah blah blah .... same old nothing burger.
 
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This nonsense is akin to your characterization that one either swear fealty to Fauci and his proclamations, or be aligned with MTG.

It’s not an either/or.

Jan 6 was neither a “simple tour gone awry” or an insurrectionist coup.

It was an ugly, violent riot. That resulted in death, injury, and a black eye on this nation.

Almost: More than a "black eye": one of the most serious and disturbing political incidents in modern American history--a president who was responsible for the deaths of multiple people. And MAGA also to blame for willingly and stupidly allowing themselves to be conned--but then MAGA ain't exactly a discerning, civilized crowd.
 
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Second, it was a pretty momentous event and really amounted to an insurrection and a failed coup.
I've never seen a coup attempt where the capital police literally walked the attacking coup through the capital like they were on a tour, opening doors for them and such. It must be the dumbest attempt at a coup I've ever seen.

Call it misguided people acting dumb, or a riot or whatever. But a coup attempt? Lol
 
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Won't bother with a poll as there are really just two options, yes or no.





I realize these guys compromise principles for politics every single day and so publicly they must endorse him. But its hard to get out of your mind the images of both Dem and GOP leadership being hustled to safety by those charged with their security.

I'd have to say that this is the biggest impediment I would have to voting for Trump, personally, despite the fact that in all likelihood I, personally, would benefit from a Trump, Part Deux. But I just don't see how anyone can with a shred of dignity or principle, anyone who claims to stand up for the US of A, could ever simply let bygones by by gone with the entire fiasco, from start to finish, not just 1/6, but the entirety of it. The vitriol, the misrepresentations of the basic facts.


We've got a million threads or comments about this, but this is a narrower question. How can anyone in the GOP, the party that wraps itself in the flag, ever vote for someone who fundamentally tried to defeat the very ideals and processes that define the US of A? Makes no sense to me.
What’s comical is all the stuff the Dems have thrown at him and he’s still hanging around. 2 impeachments, fake Russian dossier, I don’t know how many trials, and in and on and on. It must drive you nuts.
 
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What’s comical is all the stuff the Dems have thrown at him and he’s still hanging around. 2 impeachments, fake Russian dossier, I don’t know how many trials, and in and on and on. It must drive you nuts.
Imagine his popularity if he hadn't been smeared by the DNC for the last decade
 
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What’s comical is all the stuff the Dems have thrown at him and he’s still hanging around. 2 impeachments, fake Russian dossier, I don’t know how many trials, and in and on and on. It must drive you nuts.
Wait till you see the responses when Trump takes the oath of office in January 2025 😂
 

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