Can someone explain the play to me

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VolnTEARS?

VolnTEARS?

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Arenas fumbles. Tennessee has the ball at around the 5 yard line or whatever it was.

They call a play with Stephens under center and allow the safety to barrel right in and sack him so fast that hardesty couldn't even block the kid.

Is that a busted assignment 'cause for the life of me that shows Clausen or Stephens is ill prepared for what's coming.

#1 Stephens has to recognize the situation and audible out....or call a time out.

#2 Clawless has to call a time out and readjust and call a new play.

For the life of me when people are getting paid gazillions of dollars can't they notice something that obvious?

Any coaches that know much more about this stuff than I do please let me know how I'm misunderstanding this?

My take is that you run ROLL OUT's in a situation like that because you give your quarterback more options. He's on the move making it tougher to sack him and he can run the ball or throw as well as buy himself more time.

You want to give yourself as many options as possible.

Too..when a defense is so aggressive like Alabama is being...where are the screens? Screens are aggression killers.
 
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It was just a Safety timing the snap perfectly. Not a lot that they could do on that one.
 
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He didn't have time to take 3 steps back... so a roll out wouldn't of been an option. Someone on the O-line had to alteast get a hand on him to give Hardesty time to pick him up.

Or audible into a shotgun to let Hardesty pick him up easier.
 
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VolnTEARS? said:
Arenas fumbles. Tennessee has the ball at around the 5 yard line or whatever it was.

They call a play with Stephens under center and allow the safety to barrel right in and sack him so fast that hardesty couldn't even block the kid.

Is that a busted assignment 'cause for the life of me that shows Clausen or Stephens is ill prepared for what's coming.

#1 Stephens has to recognize the situation and audible out....or call a time out.

#2 Clawless has to call a time out and readjust and call a new play.

For the life of me when people are getting paid gazillions of dollars can't they notice something that obvious?

Any coaches that know much more about this stuff than I do please let me know how I'm misunderstanding this?

My take is that you run ROLL OUT's in a situation like that because you give your quarterback more options. He's on the move making it tougher to sack him and he can run the ball or throw as well as buy himself more time.

You want to give yourself as many options as possible.

Too..when a defense is so aggressive like Alabama is being...where are the screens? Screens are aggression killers.
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we could have rolled Crompton out a little more against UCLA when their defensive tackles we're killing us, but Clawson continues to prove he's over his head
 
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Yeah that play wasn't Clawson or Stephens fault. It's the Cutcliffe-less o-line that doesn't have a clue.
 
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vol_in_ar said:
we could have rolled Crompton out a little more against UCLA when their defensive tackles we're killing us, but Clawson continues to prove he's over his head
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I guess you didn't hear about Crompton's ankle injury that was majorly down played. He was a lot slower than he was the past two years and that's why they didn't roll him out as much otherwise they would. The coaches aren't that stupid.
 
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It was just a Safety timing the snap perfectly. Not a lot that they could do on that one.
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Could he not see the situation as the QB and call time out or audible to a shot gun?

If they're going to be aggressive you have to counter such aggression. This is no more difficult than playing chess. At that level making that much money an offensive coordinator should be akin to a master chess player so he does what a master would do in chess against an aggressive opponent.

He didn't have time to take 3 steps back... so a roll out wouldn't of been an option.
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Again...audible out. A coach calls TIME OUT. Do something man. Don't just let the dude stare you in the face and trash you like that.
 
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VolnTEARS? said:
Could he not see the situation as the QB and call time out or audible to a shot gun?

If they're going to be aggressive you have to counter such aggression. This is no more difficult than playing chess. At that level making that much money an offensive coordinator should be akin to a master chess player so he does what a master would do in chess against an aggressive opponent.



Again...audible out. A coach calls TIME OUT. Do something man. Don't just let the dude stare you in the face and trash you like that.
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Audible to WHAT?

No matter what you're going to get sacked - the defense called the perfect play and timed it perfectly. The guy a first year starter. Isn't a seasoned vet. Not to mention you don't know if they're coming or not. They usually show blitz with 2 or 3 and only come with 1.
 
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Audible to WHAT?
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Again...SHOT GUN.

A shot gun gives your running back time to make the block.

Audible to Shot gun...call time out. How many times do I have to say it?
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You didn't suggest a shotgun - I did. Good try though.

And like I said. People show blitz all the time. Give them credit they timed it perfectly. Sometimes the defense wins you know.
 
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Just outcoached that play. They had the balls to call a all out blitz and it worked. If he was picked up there was a great chance for 6. Bama gambled and won that is all.
 
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GAVol said:
It was just a Safety timing the snap perfectly. Not a lot that they could do on that one.
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disagree completely here. the safety didn't time the snap, it was just we didn't have enough blockers for 8 guys in the box. Stephens should have adjusted the blocking (getting Hardesty in the right spot) or call the time out there. when you see a LB and a S showing blitz right over the center, you've got to do something
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
He didn't have time to take 3 steps back... so a roll out wouldn't of been an option. Someone on the O-line had to alteast get a hand on him to give Hardesty time to pick him up.

Or audible into a shotgun to let Hardesty pick him up easier.
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Didn't have to read too far down to answer this one.
 
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VolnTEARS? said:
Arenas fumbles. Tennessee has the ball at around the 5 yard line or whatever it was.

They call a play with Stephens under center and allow the safety to barrel right in and sack him so fast that hardesty couldn't even block the kid.

Is that a busted assignment 'cause for the life of me that shows Clausen or Stephens is ill prepared for what's coming.

#1 Stephens has to recognize the situation and audible out....or call a time out.

#2 Clawless has to call a time out and readjust and call a new play.

For the life of me when people are getting paid gazillions of dollars can't they notice something that obvious?

Any coaches that know much more about this stuff than I do please let me know how I'm misunderstanding this?

My take is that you run ROLL OUT's in a situation like that because you give your quarterback more options. He's on the move making it tougher to sack him and he can run the ball or throw as well as buy himself more time.

You want to give yourself as many options as possible.

Too..when a defense is so aggressive like Alabama is being...where are the screens? Screens are aggression killers.[/QUOTE]

Hotrodpinto:
I thought I would never live to see the day that we asked for more screens. It's funny how things change. A few years ago, we ran a screen on every other play and now we won't run one when we need to.
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VolnTEARS? said:
Arenas fumbles. Tennessee has the ball at around the 5 yard line or whatever it was.

They call a play with Stephens under center and allow the safety to barrel right in and sack him so fast that hardesty couldn't even block the kid.

Is that a busted assignment 'cause for the life of me that shows Clausen or Stephens is ill prepared for what's coming.

#1 Stephens has to recognize the situation and audible out....or call a time out.

#2 Clawless has to call a time out and readjust and call a new play.

For the life of me when people are getting paid gazillions of dollars can't they notice something that obvious?

Any coaches that know much more about this stuff than I do please let me know how I'm misunderstanding this?

My take is that you run ROLL OUT's in a situation like that because you give your quarterback more options. He's on the move making it tougher to sack him and he can run the ball or throw as well as buy himself more time.

You want to give yourself as many options as possible.

Too..when a defense is so aggressive like Alabama is being...where are the screens? Screens are aggression killers.
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Was it Rick or Casey's fault? Maybe Jimmy for going to Notre Dame.:blink:
 
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Volmorning said:
When you are starting your 4th game you are just trying to remember the first 2 pages of the paybook... audible... HAH! Nobody's fault.
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the kid has had the playbook for months now. if he's in the game and can only remember the 1st 2 pages of the playbook, we have problems. I just don't think either of our QB's are smart enough to recognize when an audible should be called
 
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sickemsmokey10 said:
the kid has had the playbook for months now. if he's in the game and can only remember the 1st 2 pages of the playbook, we have problems. I just don't think either of our QB's are smart enough to recognize when an audible should be called
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I thought I saw somewhere that neither Crompton nor Stephens have permission to audible. I can't produce the source for this. But I haven't noticed any audibles at all.
 
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The thing that was beyond comprehension from where I sat (at home in New Mexico) was the block thrown against our outside linebacker when Bama scored on 4th down. It was something to behold. I was embarrassed just watching it.
 
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The O-lineman has to take care of the most immediate threat. I have not watched the game on tape yet so I don't completely remember it but I'd say a DB coming in should be the most immediate threat depending on where he was exactly, more quickness than the lineman or linebacker.
 
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They had two guys in the same gap. If I'm not mistaken, Stephens made a comment about this in an interview. Alabama did this on this play and at least one other that I saw.
 
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I think I heard somewhere that it really isn't an option for the QBs to audible out of a play because the coaches don't think the QBs understand the offense well enough. From the looks of it though, I can't be sure if the coaches understand the offense either.
 
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