Butch Jones???

[sjt18]

I see where Taggart has been hired again as a HC, so one would think Jones could get hired also.

Not you necessarily but there are a lot of people who don't want to see how wrong they were about Jones.

Some saw through him early including players who left. Apparently his used car salesman persona didn't translate well to developing a team culture built on trust- go figure.

 

[TucsonVol]

Hate away, but UT signed a contract giving him buy out protection if fired.

Why do feel the need to bring up the contract? Everybody knows this already....geez

 

[LA vol7]

How long before Nick is sick of him and says, "Hey, its time to go!"

 

[davethevol]

How long before Nick is sick of him and says, "Hey, its time to go!"

Saban clearly has zero respect for him and only keeps him around to embarrass him and to tick off UT.

 

[SaintLouisVol]

Lawyers and agents must salivate at the mere thought of negotiating a contract with the dolts at UT.

Jones' contract was pretty much like every other HC's contract at a P5 school. Tennessee is neither the first nor last school to pay people not to coach.

It wasn't a bad contract. It was a bad hire.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

I believe 2020 is the last year of the buyout, so he will have to start washing more cars or get a higher paying coaching gig.

 

[MAD]

Saban clearly has zero respect for him and only keeps him around to embarrass him and to tick off UT.

When will Saban realize that UT fans are over it and we want Butch to stay at Bama with him?

 

[dobre_shunka]

Kiffin is trying to poach Saban's staff. Maybe he can get Butch and then round out his staff by hiring Dooley since he's unemployed now.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I believe 2020 is the last year of the buyout, so he will have to start washing more cars or get a higher paying coaching gig.

8.2 mil / 280k per month = roughly 2.5 years. You do the math. Sounds like sometime in 2020 depending on when the payout started.

 

[MAD]

Kiffin is trying to poach Saban's staff. Maybe he can get Butch and then round out his staff by hiring Dooley since he's unemployed now.

This would be the best coaching staff in college football

Spoiler

 

[Carl Pickens]

I wish people would stop bringing him up. It’s like reminding everyone about that time you got kicked in the balls really hard.

 

[TJVol95]

No

 

[SaintLouisVol]

I believe 2020 is the last year of the buyout, so he will have to start washing more cars or get a higher paying coaching gig.

I have read more from more than once source that the payments are through February of 2021, which seems about right based on the numbers that have been reported.

 

[alaVOL]

Butch was hope after Dooley, that smoke and mirrors disguised for a few years. I thinked he knew after year 3 he was over his head. Unfortunately we got shafted with those last two which gladly revealed he and UT needed to part ways immediately. Moving on....

 

[NighthawkVol]

His reputation has taken a major hit. Looks to be getting a job until the background check.

He's probably letting it be known that it will take loads of cash to sign him since he's getting free money from UT.

 

[stumps]

Do you realize you are wrong?
2017 - AL - #13 scoring offense (pre-Butch)
2018 - AL - #3 scoring offense (w/Butch)
2019 - AL - #2 scoring offense (w/Butch)

yo are correct, "decline" is too vague of a term. Perhaps a more direct thing to state is that since Saban hired Jones, he has failed to win a National Championship.

 

[VolJarhead]

yo are correct, "decline" is too vague of a term. Perhaps a more direct thing to state is that since Saban hired Jones, he has failed to win a National Championship.

That has more to do with defense than offense though. How about we look at the defense of Alabama since Pruitt left?

 

[NUMBER1VOLFAN]

i am just so thankful he's gone. Put those bricks in a gunny sack and...

 

[sjt18]

Butch was hope after Dooley, that smoke and mirrors disguised for a few years. I thinked he knew after year 3 he was over his head.

Huh?

Unfortunately we got shafted with those last two which gladly revealed he and UT needed to part ways immediately. Moving on....

There were several people here that recognized he was badly underperforming from the first year on.

He had 5 NFL caliber players on the OL in his first year... that suddenly seemed to forget how to block once his "scheme" was installed. In the end, they remained the best OL he had in 5 years... and they were the product of someone else's recruiting and development.

 

[sjt18]

He's probably letting it be known that it will take loads of cash to sign him since he's getting free money from UT.

Or the more obvious answer... no one wants him.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

Kiffin is trying to poach Saban's staff. Maybe he can get Butch and then round out his staff by hiring Dooley since he's unemployed now.

I think Butch needs to stay at bama and serve as a future OC!

 

[Tarkus]

Amazing that the scum of scum (Petrino, Briles, Freeze) all seemed to be able to find work after their public screw ups. But not Botch Jones. The title IX lawsuit now will be a hurdle he can’t cross. He needs to set his sights on Div 1-AA.

Of course, all those guys won big and Butch ...well not so much.

 

[Billy Ratliff]

If you can't learn from your mistakes, you are an idiot. We at TN have not been able to learn from our mistakes, we must be honest. We had to pay Dooley $$$5,000,000.00 for his buy out. We didn't learn as we then hired boy butch and had to pay him(still paying) $$$8,100,000.00 for his buy out. Our AD isn't smart enough to negotiate a contract that pays (and pay big) for results, not so much for crap. They haven't been smart enough to realize how poorly they negotiate, for if they did, they would hire a professional negotiator. SABAN worked without any buy out at all when he went to BAMA, he felt if he couldn't do the job, BAMA should be able to fire him-that is a stand up guy. He has one [buy-out] now, but he has earned his contract and buy out, with results. Those that say we couldn't get a great coach without a huge buy-out clause, etc. are the ones that can't learn from previous mistakes, and can't learn from the history of other programs. Don't forget, there was a large number of boy butch fans, many on this very board! They would attack you, if you questioned boy butch's ability to HC UT, they aren't that upset that the object of their man-crush is still getting paid.

You apparently have very little understanding of how big time CFB HC contracts work in the current climate. The reality is that a new HC may get fired in yr 2 or 3 at top (rich) programs with demanding, impatient fans. See Willie Taggart, or UT fans post-BYU game. Coaches, and Jimmy Sexton, know this is the reality so large buyouts are the norm, not the exception. Also LOL at referencing Saban’s Hiring 12 yrs ago when he already had a MNC ring in the SEC.

 

[Billy Ratliff]

A job as a position coach....what position is he qualified to coach? We didn't see a lot of player development while he was here.

This is the problem. Former WR coach who was never a coordinator at any level.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I have read more from more than once source that the payments are through February of 2021, which seems about right based on the numbers that have been reported.

I think I calc'd it today at about 2.5 years so that would be about right from the time he was let go.