Butch Jones SEC record compared

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Sarms58 said:
Like Urban Meyer at Florida after Tebow? Or maybe it's not as simple as you assume...

As one poster already mentioned, Dobbs is a good qb but he's not an elite qb...he was what we needed and has us on the verge of back to back 9-4 seasons - best back to back season in a decade...

You'll see a much better passing attack from Tennessee next year...hopefully Malone will hang around to reap the benefits of playing with a true passing QB...
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So, you're trying to compare Butch Jones to Urban Meyer?
 
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ChattownVFL said:
I know most QBs look great to UF fans, but c'mon. I appreciate Dobbs and eveything he's done for UT, but he's not a 'great' QB.
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He leads the team in both passing (obviously) and rushing. so, to me anytime you have a QB that does that, he's great in my book.
 
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Sarms58 said:
It was intended to show what new coaches inherited...if you played it forward and had the results of the drafts after the next 3 season, I would expect Jones to be closer to the middle of the pack...off this year's team we might have as many as 4 or 5 drafted depending on how many juniors go early...

If you look at the last 2 seasons, Jones is 9-7 (0.563) - ties with Gus for 3rd...probably a more realistic measure of his tenure..
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Yeah I understand. But sometimes it's hard to evaluate a transition based solely on that. Mark Stoops was handed a total wreck, but he still had a few guys that were legit NFL starters. Similarly, UT/Arkansas might have had a lot of talent on paper in comparison, but I don't think anyone would argue it was a easy job to take.
 
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LittleCat said:
Yeah I understand. But sometimes it's hard to evaluate a transition based solely on that. Mark Stoops was handed a total wreck, but he still had a few guys that were legit NFL starters. Similarly, UT/Arkansas might have had a lot of talent on paper in comparison, but I don't think anyone would argue it was a easy job to take.
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Stoops inherited about the same level of talent as Jones...
 
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That whole pack is within +-2 games of each other - Saban is a whole nuther thing. Shows how hard it is to break out of the pack.
 
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ALGator said:
My opinion is Butch Jones == Gene Chizik. Got lucky with a great QB. After the great QB leaves, so will the wins.
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Maybe closer to Al Golden minus Golden's inability to recruit well (also not good at assembling a strong staff). Butch has walked a fine line in his head coaching career. He followed his mentor, Brian Kelly's footsteps really closely, one could even say he wouldn't be at Tennessee without riding Kelly's coattail.

Time for Butch to put up or shut up. Hart won't be here to protect him (not like he could), Butch has all his recruits, so any excuse derived from depth problems falls squarely on his shoulders.
 
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