BTO’s Saint Joseph’s Postgame Report

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1. We were favored by 22 and won by 36, we move to 5-0 and continue to take care of lesser opponents. Some may look at this and see on the surface 66 points by the opponent but I said pregame that they had a decent offense, add in that they push tempo a bit and that number isn’t a surprise at all.

2. For the first time this year an opponent went over 0.8ppp against us as SJU finished at 0.846ppp, that is still a very good defensive number and continues to look like the 2019 Texas Tech team defensively that played in the national championship. I am impressed at this defense, I knew they had the potential but to have the layoff and time missed this team did and yet be this good defensively UNF rult impressive.

3. On the flip side, after a slow start this team seems to be finding their footing a bit on the offensive side of the ball now too. For the 3rd game in a row Tennessee was over 1.3ppp offensively, they finished tonight at 1.38ppp, a really good number. Now, is that a product off opponent, or this team starting to get things going on that end after a lot of time missed and a slow start? Maybe a mixture of both? I will say after going 9/31 for 29% in their first 2 games from 3 they are 25/61 for 41% from 3 in their last 3 games, I don’t expect them to keep that number but in the middle around 36-37% would be nice.

4. Hard to single any one player out, 6 guys in double digits, JJJ wasn’t but does throw in 7&7 in typical JJJ fashion. Vescovi continues to show he is a guy Barnes loves at that lead guard position and tonight goes for 16/7/5, he’s really improved defensively and even with our depth at guard it wouldn’t be a shock to see him right there with Fulk for MPG, Barnes really likes blonde haired Vescovi.

5. I know some have talked about lineup changes etc, to me there’s no need, and I see no reason, this team is playing extremely well right now and seemingly finding a little grove after a little slow start. I like the freshman being able to come into the flow of the game and going with hot hands from there, there’s also nobody in the starting lineup who I feel isn’t playing well so completely unnecessary to even discuss imo.

6. On a slightly related topic what about my boy, Victor Bailey, oh c’mon, you didn’t think I was gonna mention him?! 25 minutes, 18 points and not just a 3pt shooter either, slashing and getting to the free throw line where he knocks them down at a high rate. Don’t look now but he leads the team in PPG through 5 games, not to shabby for a guy some said was a “waste of a scholarship”. Not saying he continues this pace, not saying he doesn’t, but I think we can all probably agree that he’s a valuable piece to this team and is a nice find/get from this staff, if he continues to develop he’s going to be a key piece to this Tennessee program in the future.

7. Tennessee moves to 5-0, there is absolutely no reason we shouldn’t be 6-0 at the end of this week and headed into what should be a highly anticipated game not many of us expected weeks ago as we open SEC play against Cuonzo Martin and Missouri. This team started a bit slow but that was to be expected all things considered, they’ve arguably looked better and better each game, hopefully we see another step forward in the next game and open SEC play with a win against Missouri.




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bleedingTNorange said:
1. We were favored by 22 and won by 36, we move to 5-0 and continue to take care of lesser opponents. Some may look at this and see on the surface 66 points by the opponent but I said pregame that they had a decent offense, add in that they push tempo a bit and that number isn’t a surprise at all.

2. For the first time this year an opponent went over 0.8ppp against us as SJU finished at 0.846ppp, that is still a very good defensive number and continues to look like the 2019 Texas Tech team defensively that played in the national championship. I am impressed at this defense, I knew they had the potential but to have the layoff and time missed this team did and yet be this good defensively UNF rult impressive.

3. On the flip side, after a slow start this team seems to be finding their footing a bit on the offensive side of the ball now too. For the 3rd game in a row Tennessee was over 1.3ppp offensively, they finished tonight at 1.38ppp, a really good number. Now, is that a product off opponent, or this team starting to get things going on that end after a lot of time missed and a slow start? Maybe a mixture of both? I will say after going 9/31 for 29% in their first 2 games from 3 they are 25/61 for 41% from 3 in their last 3 games, I don’t expect them to keep that number but in the middle around 36-37% would be nice.

4. Hard to single any one player out, 6 guys in double digits, JJJ wasn’t but does throw in 7&7 in typical JJJ fashion. Vescovi continues to show he is a guy Barnes loves at that lead guard position and tonight goes for 16/7/5, he’s really improved defensively and even with our depth at guard it wouldn’t be a shock to see him right there with Fulk for MPG, Barnes really likes blonde haired Vescovi.

5. I know some have talked about lineup changes etc, to me there’s no need, and I see no reason, this team is playing extremely well right now and seemingly finding a little grove after a little slow start. I like the freshman being able to come into the flow of the game and going with hot hands from there, there’s also nobody in the starting lineup who I feel isn’t playing well so completely unnecessary to even discuss imo.

6. On a slightly related topic what about my boy, Victor Bailey, oh c’mon, you didn’t think I was gonna mention him?! 25 minutes, 18 points and not just a 3pt shooter either, slashing and getting to the free throw line where he knocks them down at a high rate. Don’t look now but he leads the team in PPG through 5 games, not to shabby for a guy some said was a “waste of a scholarship”. Not saying he continues this pace, not saying he doesn’t, but I think we can all probably agree that he’s a valuable piece to this team and is a nice find/get from this staff, if he continues to develop he’s going to be a key piece to this Tennessee program in the future.

7. Tennessee moves to 5-0, there is absolutely no reason we shouldn’t be 6-0 at the end of this week and headed into what should be a highly anticipated game not many of us expected weeks ago as we open SEC play against Cuonzo Martin and Missouri. This team started a bit slow but that was to be expected all things considered, they’ve arguably looked better and better each game, hopefully we see another step forward in the next game and open SEC play with a win against Missouri.




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It is a shame that the Gonzaga game was cancelled.

That would be one fun match up to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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This is a fun team to watch, and it's exciting to watch them grow as a group. The freshmen are finding their roles. If we continue to improve at this pace (and basketball continues to be played), we could be serious contenders in the NCAAT.
 
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This team has completely bought in. They switched everything defensively and played a very physical brand of basketball and didn’t lose any composure when St. Joe’s started grabbing and pushing. Zone still bothers us a bit but if we continue to attack gaps and kick out to wide open shooters, I expect to hit a decent clip of them. I don’t recall any bad shot attempts, which is an excellent sign given how many new guys are contributing.

On any given night there are literally 7 players who could lead us in scoring. Not many other teams could say that. One more warmup and we will kickoff SEC play where we can expect teams to get even more physical with us.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
n the flip side, after a slow start this team seems to be finding their footing a bit on the offensive side of the ball now too. For the 3rd game in a row Tennessee was over 1.3ppp offensively, they finished tonight at 1.38ppp, a really good number. Now, is that a product off opponent, or this team starting to get things going on that end after a lot of time missed and a slow start? Maybe a mixture of both? I will say after going 9/31 for 29% in their first 2 games from 3 they are 25/61 for 41% from 3 in their last 3 games, I don’t expect them to keep that number but in the middle around 36-37% would be nice.
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one of the strongest signs we could have a vey exciting ride
not bothered by 60 plus from hawks --theyve been playing solid basketball for decades,and i think they will give many A10 teams trouble. just compare our numbers against those posted by Villanova, kansas and Aubies

Ever wonder what kinda numbers bailey would.ve posted last season?
 
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Excellent writeup as usual.

It seems to me that Fulky has started a little slow on the offensive side, maybe this is just because UT has so many offensive weapons.

Wish we could have seen a little more of players 9-12 just to get them some experience for late in the year.
 
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Special Ed said:
Vescovi is actually blond now.
Blonde is for girls.
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Good catch, SE! (Unless, of course, Vescovi self-identifies as...)

The girl who cuts my hair dyes her hair fluorescent blue. I wonder... if she dyed mine, would it be blu?

I think we can soon expect an edict from the UT Humanities Dept. stating that, regardless of gender identity, all persons with fair hair shall hereafter be refered to as "bland."
 
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orangemadam said:
Excellent writeup as usual.

It seems to me that Fulky has started a little slow on the offensive side, maybe this is just because UT has so many offensive weapons.

Wish we could have seen a little more of players 9-12 just to get them some experience for late in the year.
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Counting Walker Jr (is he redshirting?), I was thinking the other night that this team could ALMOST go 13 deep...wonder what it would look like if Barnes did like hockey and did line substitutions...5 guys in, 5 guys out, at least in 2nd/3rd Qtrs, and just totally exhaust the other team on D. Hypothetical, of course, but our depth and D will play really well in SEC and into the tourney...along w/ scoring coming along. I want to see us suffocate some of the teams that have been causing us heartburn the last few years...KY, LSU, AUB.
 
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Concerning 5, the 2 freshmen are clearly talented but are in a steep learning curve. They appear to be receptive to coaching and should continue to improve through out the season. They both make some splash plays but then get a little lost in the team flow which is understandable at this point. Both SV and Bailey due to their experience aren’t having as many mental mistakes and deserve their starting roles. Is years past we would have had to put both freshmen in the starting lineup and let them take their lumps like we did with JJJ. We’re fortunate to have the depth of talent where CRB can bring them along a bit slower. Will be interesting to see how the starting lineup and minutes played evolve as the season progresses
 
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walkenvol said:
Concerning 5, the 2 freshmen are clearly talented but are in a steep learning curve. They appear to be receptive to coaching and should continue to improve through out the season. They both make some splash plays but then get a little lost in the team flow which is understandable at this point. Both SV and Bailey due to their experience aren’t having as many mental mistakes and deserve their starting roles. Is years past we would have had to put both freshmen in the starting lineup and let them take their lumps like we did with JJJ. We’re fortunate to have the depth of talent where CRB can bring them along a bit slower. Will be interesting to see how the starting lineup and minutes played evolve as the season progresses
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I'd say starting line may change, but would be surprised if time played changes a ton. Vescovi and Bailey deserve PT, and JJJ is quietly maybe the most solid all around stat guy (always balanced stat line in points, reb, asst, steals, etc), but you can see Barnes will want the two frosh in there at the end of games, as he's having them play thru having 3 fouls towards the end of games.
 
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njvols said:
Counting Walker Jr (is he redshirting?), I was thinking the other night that this team could ALMOST go 13 deep...wonder what it would look like if Barnes did like hockey and did line substitutions...5 guys in, 5 guys out, at least in 2nd/3rd Qtrs, and just totally exhaust the other team on D. Hypothetical, of course, but our depth and D will play really well in SEC and into the tourney...along w/ scoring coming along. I want to see us suffocate some of the teams that have been causing us heartburn the last few years...KY, LSU, AUB.
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What are these “quarters” that you speak of?

I’m not a huge fan of subbing all 5 if it’s still a game. You want to throw in 5 guys who don’t get many minutes the last two mins of a blowout...fine.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
1. We were favored by 22 and won by 36, we move to 5-0 and continue to take care of lesser opponents. Some may look at this and see on the surface 66 points by the opponent but I said pregame that they had a decent offense, add in that they push tempo a bit and that number isn’t a surprise at all.

2. For the first time this year an opponent went over 0.8ppp against us as SJU finished at 0.846ppp, that is still a very good defensive number and continues to look like the 2019 Texas Tech team defensively that played in the national championship. I am impressed at this defense, I knew they had the potential but to have the layoff and time missed this team did and yet be this good defensively UNF rult impressive.

3. On the flip side, after a slow start this team seems to be finding their footing a bit on the offensive side of the ball now too. For the 3rd game in a row Tennessee was over 1.3ppp offensively, they finished tonight at 1.38ppp, a really good number. Now, is that a product off opponent, or this team starting to get things going on that end after a lot of time missed and a slow start? Maybe a mixture of both? I will say after going 9/31 for 29% in their first 2 games from 3 they are 25/61 for 41% from 3 in their last 3 games, I don’t expect them to keep that number but in the middle around 36-37% would be nice.

4. Hard to single any one player out, 6 guys in double digits, JJJ wasn’t but does throw in 7&7 in typical JJJ fashion. Vescovi continues to show he is a guy Barnes loves at that lead guard position and tonight goes for 16/7/5, he’s really improved defensively and even with our depth at guard it wouldn’t be a shock to see him right there with Fulk for MPG, Barnes really likes blonde haired Vescovi.

5. I know some have talked about lineup changes etc, to me there’s no need, and I see no reason, this team is playing extremely well right now and seemingly finding a little grove after a little slow start. I like the freshman being able to come into the flow of the game and going with hot hands from there, there’s also nobody in the starting lineup who I feel isn’t playing well so completely unnecessary to even discuss imo.

6. On a slightly related topic what about my boy, Victor Bailey, oh c’mon, you didn’t think I was gonna mention him?! 25 minutes, 18 points and not just a 3pt shooter either, slashing and getting to the free throw line where he knocks them down at a high rate. Don’t look now but he leads the team in PPG through 5 games, not to shabby for a guy some said was a “waste of a scholarship”. Not saying he continues this pace, not saying he doesn’t, but I think we can all probably agree that he’s a valuable piece to this team and is a nice find/get from this staff, if he continues to develop he’s going to be a key piece to this Tennessee program in the future.

7. Tennessee moves to 5-0, there is absolutely no reason we shouldn’t be 6-0 at the end of this week and headed into what should be a highly anticipated game not many of us expected weeks ago as we open SEC play against Cuonzo Martin and Missouri. This team started a bit slow but that was to be expected all things considered, they’ve arguably looked better and better each game, hopefully we see another step forward in the next game and open SEC play with a win against Missouri.




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Bailey is certainly showing his value, on both ends.
Offensively, this team seems to be finding itself. Joe’s strategy was apparently to pummel Fulk and Pons and they fouled out three guys doing it. It didn't seem to affect our ability to score one bit. This team is bank at the FT line.

The concern is that Joe exposed some things on our defense. Specifically, our over aggressiveness. Fulk was over pursuing beyond the 3 point line multiple times leaving the lane wide open. I’m surprised they didn’t get more out of it. I thought the defense was bad at times. I saw multiple examples where the team was out of position, and in recovery mode. Several uncontested drives to the basket. Bad spacing. The difference was that Joe missed so many threes, many of which weren’t that heavily contested. 20.7%. But, hey, it’s hard to get up for an inferior team and it’s just a few days until Christmas.

This game gives a pretty good picture of the type of teams they’ll struggle the most with.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
It is a shame that the Gonzaga game was cancelled.

That would be one fun match up to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I wish it had been postponed rather than canceled. I think we played then today, we would have a great chance of winning the game. I am not so sure we would have won the game with all the time we lost in the preseason due to Covid.
 
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Roustabout said:
Bailey is certainly showing his value, on both ends.
Offensively, this team seems to be finding itself. Joe’s strategy was apparently to pummel Fulk and Pons and they fouled out three guys doing it. It didn't seem to affect our ability to score one bit. This team is bank at the FT line.

The concern is that Joe exposed some things on our defense. Specifically, our over aggressiveness. Fulk was over pursuing beyond the 3 point line multiple times leaving the lane wide open. I’m surprised they didn’t get more out of it. I thought the defense was bad at times. I saw multiple examples where the team was out of position, and in recovery mode. Several uncontested drives to the basket. Bad spacing. The difference was that Joe missed so many threes, many of which weren’t that heavily contested. 20.7%. But, hey, it’s hard to get up for an inferior team and it’s just a few days until Christmas.

This game gives a pretty good picture of the type of teams they’ll struggle the most with.
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There was a long stretch of terrible defense in this game. The St Joes players were driving to the basket at will and they got to the free throw line or got a wide open shot every time. I think we just got 20+ and lost some intensity but a good team could have made us pay for that.
 
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scottchatt said:
What are these “quarters” that you speak of?

I’m not a huge fan of subbing all 5 if it’s still a game. You want to throw in 5 guys who don’t get many minutes the last two mins of a blowout...fine.
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Ummm, yeah my bad...football on the brain. I know Barnes would never do a hockey type line substitution, but just a point that he could probably do it w/o too much fall off. Our balance of seniority and across the board talent has to be envious from all. Benefit of Barnes mentality vs Calipari. Barnes has luxury of working frosh into PT, where KY b/c of heavy dependence on One and Done's has to re-invent his lineup every year and hope they all gel by the time the tourney rolls around.
 
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