Brady Hoke joining TN staff-confirmed

[jakez4ut]

His last stop at Oregon looked a bit to Ducks fans like Sunseri's one year here looked to us. But we aren't hiring him as DC, and their defensive roster may have been more depleted than ours was that year.

But he is a solid DL coach. And he does expand the recruiting base. I have nothing against Stripling, but we aren't losing him. So, I view Hoke more of an addition than a replacement. I think our defensive staff is in an overall better place than last year.

agreed

 

[sjt18]

Until he is the guy(wins a NC) there will always be doubts if he can be the guy.

I won't even go there. Until there is a true CFB playoff that involves all of the P5 champions and we get away from the political system completely... my desire is just SEC championships. Obviously there's a great chance that the SEC champ makes the current 4 team playoff... but I'd be satisfied with the SEC and a Sugar berth.

It's blind faith in the players is more like it, they have the drive to go win them all. Will they? Who knows, so why act like they can't out work the competition and overcome every obstacle even if some of CBJ gameday gut feeling decisions need to be included on the list.

Because the coach recruits and develops the players. They decide who plays and how. Implicit in any claim of "blind faith in the players" is even greater blind faith in the coaching staff.

We can debate the coaching changes, the class ratings or even what impact fans have on anything, but the bottom line is our guys need to out work the competition, hone their skills to a razor's edge and go out and play solid football without making game changing mistakes one after the other.

If that's all it is then why is UT paying a guy over $4 million per year to make that happen?

It isn't just "outworking" the other guy. If your competitor in whatever line of business you are in has better management, training, and more talent... AND they work hard... your hard work alone isn't going to beat them. You might hire a better manager and beat them. You might acquire more talent. You might find some unique training advantage. But if they work hard and you work hard... they win.

For what you are saying to be the "solution"... Bama, UGA, LSU, UF, et al would have to not work as hard as UT. Do you have any evidence at all that they are or will?

Even if they were to perform close to potential the bounce of a funny shaped ball can dictate the final score in a 60+ minute game that allows humans to use judgement in a game of millimeters and milliseconds.

It does. And the difference between where championship caliber programs are and where other programs are... is that their margin of error is great enough that there are only a few opportunities in a year when one of those bounces and ruin their season. Those programs work hard, have great coaching, and have great talent.

Nobody is saying CBJ doesn't need to get it together. When that's all a poster says, it gets old. Certainly when they act like he can't beat good teams because he has lost to bad teams.

Release the Beast!

That bothers you but you can't understand how it gets old to many of us when folks here try to hand wave away his shortcomings? The pro-Jones crowd tends to repeat the exact same themes as well... over and over. That's why the responses are so similar.

In 4 years, he has one upset win over USCe that according to Daj's matrix was a less talented team. He's lost to Vandy in year one. A 4-8 UF team in year two. Arkansas in year 3. And then TAM, Vandy, and USCe. I think people forget that TAM was an 8-5 football team this past season and their coach is now on a hot seat because of it... yet he still beat Jones.

FTR, I don't have much of an issue with Wells other than Jones is adding another coach that has not proven himself at another P5 program. I personally question why Azzanni is still around but that's Jones' choice. Jones however HAS hung his job security on Wells' ability to produce a MUCH improved OL. There doesn't appear to be a Dobbs caliber runner in the returning QB's. UT has to have much better OL play.

I think the defensive hires have been very good. The worry on D to me is the recruiting done in previous years. CB hasn't been very good outside of Sutton for the last 3 years. Shoop needs more and better LB's to run his scheme effectively. But I'm not sure who could complain about the D staff right now. They may just not have the time to build it up.

 

[OrangeDog]

Some people are born to play a supporting role. They are at their very best when what they do makes the people around them better at what they do. I hope that's the case with Hoke.

We were all hoping that this would be turned over in the Lady VOL Bball game................Holly Warlick was destined to be fantastic in the role of supporter for years to come.......... nobody else had picked her up as they had all of the other assistant coaches..............