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Mister Paul Fortenberry broke out the bowls this way. An excellent explanation of how it is setup

Here's the best way I've found to communicate the SEC bowl situation as I understand it, by breaking it into tiers.

TIER 1:
The six college football playoff bowls:

Orange Bowl
Peach Bowl
Cotton Bowl
Rose Bowl
Sugar Bowl
Fiesta Bowl

These have exclusive rights to any 12 teams (has to include one non big-5 team). Now, it depends on who ends up in the top four that decides the final eight as some of the bowls, Rose, Sugar and Orange, retain specific tie-ins if the conference champion from their tie-in isn't in the top four.

Will be hard to show those tie-ins this year with Rose and Sugar being semifinal games. But, the Orange has some rather specific tie-ins, including the ACC champion if not in final four. So, if FSU loses to Ga Tech in the ACC championship game, Ga Tech would automatically go to the Orange Bowl assuming they aren't in the final four.

Hope this at least makes some sense. For Tennessee purposes, depending on how many SEC teams land in this tier could determine which tier Tennessee lands in.

TIER 2:
This is the Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl (formerly Capital One [who now sponsors the Orange Bowl]) Tier. They get first pick from the remaining SEC teams outside of the teams that were placed in Tier 1.

TIER 3:
Group of six

Outback Bowl
Taxslayer Bowl
Music City Bowl
Liberty City Bowl
Texas Bowl
Belk Bowl

This where the SEC gets involved and does the matching after consulting the schools and the bowls. But, SEC gets the final word. What we don't know is how much record comes into play vs the business side of things, i.e. ticket sales, travel, etc. This is where the real mystery is. Will they place all eight teams with a better record before they place Tennessee? Or does that not matter to the SEC and is 'fit' really what they are looking for? A lot of unknown questions we are searching for answers for, trust me.

TIER 4:
Birmingham Bowl: They get the next pick out of what's remaining. There are 12 SEC teams bowl eligible so there are going to be some pretty good options here.

TIER 5:
Independence Bowl: They have the final remaining pick of remaining bowl eligible teams.


TIER 6:
Basically, if everyone passes up on Tennessee with SEC tie-ins, they would fill a slot left by a conference that didn't meet all of their tie-ins because they didn't have enough teams eligible. I'm not sure how this one would work out, honestly. There will likely be an SEC team in this tier. That is, unless they get three teams into those top six games.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Mister Paul Fortenberry broke out the bowls this way. An excellent explanation of how it is setup

Here's the best way I've found to communicate the SEC bowl situation as I understand it, by breaking it into tiers.

TIER 1:
The six college football playoff bowls:

Orange Bowl
Peach Bowl
Cotton Bowl
Rose Bowl
Sugar Bowl
Fiesta Bowl

These have exclusive rights to any 12 teams (has to include one non big-5 team). Now, it depends on who ends up in the top four that decides the final eight as some of the bowls, Rose, Sugar and Orange, retain specific tie-ins if the conference champion from their tie-in isn't in the top four.

Will be hard to show those tie-ins this year with Rose and Sugar being semifinal games. But, the Orange has some rather specific tie-ins, including the ACC champion if not in final four. So, if FSU loses to Ga Tech in the ACC championship game, Ga Tech would automatically go to the Orange Bowl assuming they aren't in the final four.

Hope this at least makes some sense. For Tennessee purposes, depending on how many SEC teams land in this tier could determine which tier Tennessee lands in.

TIER 2:
This is the Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl (formerly Capital One [who now sponsors the Orange Bowl]) Tier. They get first pick from the remaining SEC teams outside of the teams that were placed in Tier 1.

TIER 3:
Group of six

Outback Bowl
Taxslayer Bowl
Music City Bowl
Liberty City Bowl
Texas Bowl
Belk Bowl

This where the SEC gets involved and does the matching after consulting the schools and the bowls. But, SEC gets the final word. What we don't know is how much record comes into play vs the business side of things, i.e. ticket sales, travel, etc. This is where the real mystery is. Will they place all eight teams with a better record before they place Tennessee? Or does that not matter to the SEC and is 'fit' really what they are looking for? A lot of unknown questions we are searching for answers for, trust me.

TIER 4:
Birmingham Bowl: They get the next pick out of what's remaining. There are 12 SEC teams bowl eligible so there are going to be some pretty good options here.

TIER 5:
Independence Bowl: They have the final remaining pick of remaining bowl eligible teams.


TIER 6:
Basically, if everyone passes up on Tennessee with SEC tie-ins, they would fill a slot left by a conference that didn't meet all of their tie-ins because they didn't have enough teams eligible. I'm not sure how this one would work out, honestly. There will likely be an SEC team in this tier. That is, unless they get three teams into those top six games.
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Wow ! someone has been busy.. Thanks.:thumbsup:
 
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I'm holding out for the Taxslayer Gator Bowl in Jax or the Outback Bowl in Tampa!

I know both are a long shot, but I can still dream of a warm Florida New Year's Day!
 
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gunner said:
I'm holding out for the Taxslayer Gator Bowl in Jax or the Outback Bowl in Tampa!

I know both are a long shot, but I can still dream of a warm Florida New Year's Day!
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I would love for it to be here in Tampa.... But that ain't happening this year.
 
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If it's the Belk Bowl in N.C. The wife and I are coming down to watch. I would love to see my Vols in a bowl.
 
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thanks to the MSU choke job in the egg bowl UT might get pushed down a bit --- didnt someone post that the SEC office chooses who goes where and not the bowls ?
 
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LWSVOL said:
Mister Paul Fortenberry broke out the bowls this way. An excellent explanation of how it is setup

Here's the best way I've found to communicate the SEC bowl situation as I understand it, by breaking it into tiers.

TIER 1:
The six college football playoff bowls:

Orange Bowl
Peach Bowl
Cotton Bowl
Rose Bowl
Sugar Bowl
Fiesta Bowl

These have exclusive rights to any 12 teams (has to include one non big-5 team). Now, it depends on who ends up in the top four that decides the final eight as some of the bowls, Rose, Sugar and Orange, retain specific tie-ins if the conference champion from their tie-in isn't in the top four.

Will be hard to show those tie-ins this year with Rose and Sugar being semifinal games. But, the Orange has some rather specific tie-ins, including the ACC champion if not in final four. So, if FSU loses to Ga Tech in the ACC championship game, Ga Tech would automatically go to the Orange Bowl assuming they aren't in the final four.

Hope this at least makes some sense. For Tennessee purposes, depending on how many SEC teams land in this tier could determine which tier Tennessee lands in.

TIER 2:
This is the Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl (formerly Capital One [who now sponsors the Orange Bowl]) Tier. They get first pick from the remaining SEC teams outside of the teams that were placed in Tier 1.

TIER 3:
Group of six

Outback Bowl
Taxslayer Bowl
Music City Bowl
Liberty City Bowl
Texas Bowl
Belk Bowl

This where the SEC gets involved and does the matching after consulting the schools and the bowls. But, SEC gets the final word. What we don't know is how much record comes into play vs the business side of things, i.e. ticket sales, travel, etc. This is where the real mystery is. Will they place all eight teams with a better record before they place Tennessee? Or does that not matter to the SEC and is 'fit' really what they are looking for? A lot of unknown questions we are searching for answers for, trust me.

TIER 4:
Birmingham Bowl: They get the next pick out of what's remaining. There are 12 SEC teams bowl eligible so there are going to be some pretty good options here.

TIER 5:
Independence Bowl: They have the final remaining pick of remaining bowl eligible teams.


TIER 6:
Basically, if everyone passes up on Tennessee with SEC tie-ins, they would fill a slot left by a conference that didn't meet all of their tie-ins because they didn't have enough teams eligible. I'm not sure how this one would work out, honestly. There will likely be an SEC team in this tier. That is, unless they get three teams into those top six games.
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I think the bold has become more important in the last few years. That coupled with potential matchups that garner tv viewers where others do not.
 
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Are the Tier 3 group in order of how they pick? Or are they all grouped together and you have just as likely of a shot going to the Belk as you do the Outback?
 
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BigSteve09 said:
Are the Tier 3 group in order of how they pick? Or are they all grouped together and you have just as likely of a shot going to the Belk as you do the Outback?
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Like already posted, I don't think they "pick in order" anymore. I think the SEC basically just decides who they want where. Now as far as the SEC assigning them top-to-bottom or just overall based on fit, who knows.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
Are the Tier 3 group in order of how they pick? Or are they all grouped together and you have just as likely of a shot going to the Belk as you do the Outback?
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At that point it doesn't appear to be a pick system in the sense that the bowl takes who they want. The bowl along with the schools get together with the SEC and state their feelings and the SEC puts to the teams in place.

At that point record, $ and matchups take over.
 
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I certainly hope Tennessee gets a good bowl game but based on Slime's hatred of anything "Tennessee" and his past bowl manipulations to screw us in bowl placement I wouldn't be surprised if the Vols are left out of the SEC bowl games and have to "fill in" in for some other non-SEC bowl game.
 
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teeball said:
I certainly hope Tennessee gets a good bowl game but based on Slime's hatred of anything "Tennessee" and his past bowl manipulations to screw us in bowl placement I wouldn't be surprised if the Vols are left out of the SEC bowl games and have to "fill in" in for some other non-SEC bowl game.
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