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I just don't see how Boeing is going to be able to swallow the hundreds of airplanes that the public will refuse to ride in with the 737 Max fiasco
 
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Pepe said:
I just don't see how Boeing is going to be able to swallow the hundreds of airplanes that the public will refuse to ride in with the 737 Max fiasco
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Do people pay attention to what kind of plane they are boarding? Or do they schedule more on flight times and fewer connections?

I think it will be more about airlines refusing to buy them.

But... Boeing has enough government contracts to keep them afloat in the long run.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Do people pay attention to what kind of plane they are boarding? Or do they schedule more on flight times and fewer connections?

I think it will be more about airlines refusing to buy them.

But... Boeing has enough government contracts to keep them afloat in the long run.
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One quick way to answer that question is how Southwest airlines response to the situation. They have pretty much bought the 737 Max exclusively for the last several years. What Boeing did sell more of those airplanes overseas than domestically
 
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Not so sure folks won't become more picky. We fly a lot of long flights so the plane and configuration are important.
 
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Pepe said:
I just don't see how Boeing is going to be able to swallow the hundreds of airplanes that the public will refuse to ride in with the 737 Max fiasco
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I bet 9 out of 10 flyers couldn't identify the plane they were boarding/flying on
 
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I fly regularly for work and I could never tell you what kind of plane I'm on. Honestly it's insignificant to me.
 
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Maybe they’ll take the same path as the DC-10 and find their way into hauling cargo. Probably a little too small to replace a 757 though.
 
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I always notice the aircraft type, because I see it when I’m doing seat selection.

I have to say that even if they come back into service, I’ll want to see a year or two of safe operations, even if they redesign the controls and reinstate the proper recovery system.

As long as bean-counters at Boeing and others are allowed to override the engineers for the sake of increasing company profits, these tragedies are a very real risk.
 
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The final 747 has rolled off the Boeing production line
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I only recently read that the bulge on top was a leftover from a military proposal they had (the one that the Lockheed C5A won). All the proposed planes had the pilot upstairs over the cargo. So the shape is designed for that.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Most of the population has no clue nor has no desire to know what type of commercial plane they are flying on.
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That’s why i always take the Zeppelin. BTW, a clear sign that your German phrase book might be out of date is if it includes the following question…..
„Wie viel für zwei Luftschifftickets?“
(How much for two airship tickets)
 
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Boeing for me lost a lot of its prestige over the whole Starliner spacecraft fiasco (along with the SLS delays)
 
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ohhh man..looks like landing gear failure..that a Boeing 737 Max? Awful.
 
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Orangeburst said:


ohhh man..looks like landing gear failure..that a Boeing 737 Max? Awful.
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That airplane didn't even look like it was decelerating to me. When you land on things that aren't rolling (i.e. wheels) your landing roll is significantly reduced and it takes a lot of power to taxi (old Marine joke). That almost looked like the engines were powered and a lot.

Landing gear failures are usually a single item, like left main, right main, or nose gear... All three being up would probably be a hydraulic type failure, but even at that they could be mechanically dropped. If it was a hydraulic failure, why land gear up? Hold for awhile, mechanically drop the gear and land. There are procedures for that.
 
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This guy does a pretty good analysis without drawing any conclusions. (a good thing). I did notice the right engine reverser was deployed, and that should have been slowing the airplane somewhat unless the engine wasn't running. It still didn't look like the airplane was decelerating much to me. I am having trouble getting past the gear and flaps up configuration. Why? Even if a bird strike is the culprit in the loss of the right engine, why the rush to land? Go out somewhere, hold and run the damned procedures to get a stable airplane with gear and flaps.

And fwiw, I got hit by about 20 Canada Geese taking off out of Seattle once on the way to JFK in a 757. It wasn't until we got to NY and put the gear down that we realized that they had messed up our landing gear indications. We did a go around and ran the procedures and landed without incident. It's a long story and if ya'll are interested I'll relate it sometime. Seattle tower actually sent me some pictures of right before we hit the birds and right after. It's pretty cool to see.

6 months to go and I will no longer be safe to operate an airliner anymore though.
 
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