RumpleVolskin
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Apples & oranges? You can't compare class years without looking at the actual playing time that leads up to the class year. Burke had less than 50% of the ABs Brown had as a FR. So to say their SO class years are a fair comparison is misleading. Time in the box against live pitching is irreplaceable.Apples and oranges. I was comparing Soph seasons in SEC. SEC pitching is deep and elite. Brown had never seen the depth and consistent quality of arms that he saw this past season. I’m not saying he will take a Burke like jump as Burke was one of most improved players in all of college baseball his junior year. I’m just saying too many fans are writing Brown off and they don’t understand that players can and do get better.
What would lead you to project the opinion of keeping Eisfelder over Brown? In my opinion, I wouldn’t have to think a split second before choosing Brown.I question why we are keeping Brown and letting Eisfelder leave but I am also the same guy who criticized letting Chapman come back last year so I will trust the decisions made by this staff.
Fair enough. My point is MLB Scouts will tell you that the SEC is deep and wide with elite pitching. The ACC is a distant second. There’s a reason why Myatt knocked the cover off the ball in JUCO but struggled mightily during his first season against SEC pitching. I think year 2 in the SEC for Brown (and for hopefully Myatt) will be a huge jump if he puts the work in.Apples & oranges? You can't compare class years without looking at the actual playing time that leads up to the class year. Burke had less than 50% of the ABs Brown had as a FR. So to say their SO class years are a fair comparison is misleading. Time in the box against live pitching is irreplaceable.
Agree, players can make great strides from one year to the next but accurately forecasting that is not a science. Too many variables so there will always be "hits" & "misses." As a coach, you try to have more "hits" than "misses." Doesn't have to be 100% but needs to be greater than 60% for consistent success.
Brown is no Shohei Ohtani. Wonder if he would be better served to focus on pitching or hitting but the workload of doing both is slowing his progress.
IMO there was more upside to Eisfelder. Brown has a LOT of work to do this offseason to become the leader we will need in the dugout next season. I hope he puts in the work and takes the next step but only time will tell.What would lead you to project the opinion of keeping Eisfelder over Brown? In my opinion, I wouldn’t have to think a split second before choosing Brown.
Just my opinion, I would put Brown above Eisfelder in terms of upsideIMO there was more upside to Eisfelder. Brown has a LOT of work to do this offseason to become the leader we will need in the dugout next season. I hope he puts in the work and takes the next step but only time will tell.
I agree with this and you said it more elegantly than I didJust my opinion, I would put Brown above Eisfelder in terms of upside
Or maybe Brown has a higher ceiling but Eisfelder has a higher floor would be a better way to put it.
We actually know how much he was receiving at Rice due to the lawsuit. So, we know it’s more than that. Likely, considerably more. If no one knows, then your statement is self defeating. I love your stuff Taylor, but I think you’re overplaying your hand here.No one knows how much or how little was paid for Brown. His upside and skill set is tremendous. I bet you’d be shocked how little he’s receiving.
I’m more inclined to see the jump in Myatt. I dare say if he’s gotten the leash that Brown got, we might be looking at a different post season.Fair enough. My point is MLB Scouts will tell you that the SEC is deep and wide with elite pitching. The ACC is a distant second. There’s a reason why Myatt knocked the cover off the ball in JUCO but struggled mightily during his first season against SEC pitching. I think year 2 in the SEC for Brown (and for hopefully Myatt) will be a huge jump if he puts the work in.
PS. Brown seems like an awesome teammate and both he and Myatt are easy to pull for….
Agree to disagree—obviously a small circle around Brown know what he's making. What Brown is making at UT obviously isn’t known by the public. It may NOT even be “considerably more” as the visibility he receives playing in the SEC is huge. Most fans assume baseball players are getting paid much more than they are. I‘ve been guilty of that as well. I don’t think $125K per year at Rice was an outrageous financial commitment. I know there were performance incentives over the 2 year contract that could have bumped it up to ~$350K over the 2-year term. My original point remains the same.We actually know how much he was receiving at Rice due to the lawsuit. So, we know it’s more than that. Likely, considerably more. If no one knows, then your statement is self defeating. I love your stuff Taylor, but I think you’re overplaying your hand here.
I’ve already said it half a dozen times. Do exactly what Burke did. Skip summer ball and work with a swing coach. What other sport exists where players continue playing? Football? Basketball? No. They train and intensely work on specific skill development.So how would you suggest the issues get fixed?
A lot of them get scouted and improve their draft stock over the summer.I’ve already said it half a dozen times. Do exactly what Burke did. Skip summer ball and work with a swing coach. What other sport exists where players continue playing? Football? Basketball? No. They train and intensely work on specific skill development.
Why in the hell these players, pitchers specifically, want to use up their juice in these meaningless leagues is beyond me.
I’m sure that’s the case if you’re in anonimity. He isn’t. I’d say Burke improved his stick be his massive improvement from his sophomore to junior year. There’s no mystery how that happened. We all know what Tony thought about those leagues. Particularly when it came to pitchers. He didn’t like them.A lot of them get scouted and improve their draft stock over the summer.
Who says he can’t work on his swing and play summer ball at the same time?
If the Cape isn’t good for development/draft stock, why do all the best players go play there?I’m sure that’s the case if you’re in anonimity. He isn’t. I’d say Burke improved his stick be his massive improvement from his sophomore to junior year. There’s no mystery how that happened. We all know what Tony thought about those leagues. Particularly when it came to pitchers. He didn’t like them.
I guess we can make up fantasy scenarios that there’s some magic swing coach up in Cape Cod, but I think we know that’s not how this works.
I’ve already said it half a dozen times. Do exactly what Burke did. Skip summer ball and work with a swing coach. What other sport exists where players continue playing? Football? Basketball? No. They train and intensely work on specific skill development.
Why in the hell these players, pitchers specifically, want to use up their juice in these meaningless leagues is beyond me.
GREAT POINT.I’ve already said it half a dozen times. Do exactly what Burke did. Skip summer ball and work with a swing coach. What other sport exists where players continue playing? Football? Basketball? No. They train and intensely work on specific skill development.
Why in the hell these players, pitchers specifically, want to use up their juice in these meaningless leagues is beyond me.
Why do all the family's spend endless summers on the road in travel ball?If the Cape isn’t good for development/draft stock, why do all the best players go play there?
I disagree but to each their own. Every year players have gotten drafted because of what they have done in the Cape.Why do all the family's spend endless summers on the road in travel ball?
Just because everyone does it, does not mean it's the right thing to do.
Coming back in Spring and increasing BA, OBP, and OPS by 25-50% against Div 1 pitchers, will do more good than anything he does in a wood bat summer league against a mix of arms at every level.
