Bigger signature win: Jones against #13 SC or Pruitt against #21 Auburn?

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revjayp said:
For me, it’s Pruitt/Auburn. I look at SC like I do Ky. Caught lightning in a bottle a few times but has never been a powerhouse football program. Auburn had SEC Championship/Playoffs/NC aspirations. Plus, it was at their place. What say you VolNation?
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I agree. This is CJP's first year at UT and first time as a HC. For him midway through the season and to beat a ranked team at their house is much bigger IMO.
 
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Auburn easily.
The.USC win was nice but it was a last minute fg at home and they finished the season ranked around 20.'
Auburn was on the road and despite.their current struggles, is a talented team. Plus the sheer number of bad streaks in breaks.
Auburn is also a more national known team and usc at their best still is not.
 
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BearCat204 said:
The jury is still out IMO. A signature win to me is a win that vaults a team to the next level. The 2013 win over SC didn't really do that IMO and I believe we lost the next 5, including Vandy and Kentucky.
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According to Finebaum we went from the Bottom of the Barrel to the Middle of the Pack that's a vault to the next level....
 
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bmaultbay said:
Pruitt vs Auburn. Got two birds with one stone, first SEC win since 2016 and first win against a West opponent in what seems like decades.
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Plus when we last met Auburn they kicked the crap out of us in our own house. That needed avenging.
 
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Both were nice at considering state of program. Going with Pruitt. Regardless of Auburn’s struggles, their D is stout and we had the best performance by our QB in his time at UT after Pruitt spent a week with the receivers. We also created turnovers with pressure.

Maybe Pruitt should spend time with the O Line next.
 
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Tough call. The opponents were roughly equal. Spurrier is better than Malzahn. Jones inherited an elite starting 5 on OL and much more on D than many admitted at the time or mostly since. UT is much better at the skill positions this year than then.
 
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revjayp said:
For me, it’s Pruitt/Auburn. I look at SC like I do Ky. Caught lightning in a bottle a few times but has never been a powerhouse football program. Auburn had SEC Championship/Playoffs/NC aspirations. Plus, it was at their place. What say you VolNation?
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Good point, plus Pruitt has several more coming!
 
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When you look at the scope of where this team was at it would be hard to not give AU the nod. By far the USC team was a better team, but it was all part of the mirage of success that is Butch Jones.
 
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VolAllen said:
Hypothetically speaking, had Dooley sealed the deal @ LSU in 2010, would that have been bigger than the two being discussed?
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Dooley might have still been here if he could close out a close game (UNC!) or a recruiting battle or retaining coaches..... Wait never mind.
 
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DD4ME said:
Dooley might have still been here if he could close out a close game (UNC!) or a recruiting battle or retaining coaches..... Wait never mind.
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If he had a defense at all, he may still be here. But finishing LSU and UNC off for a final record of 8-5 in year 1 probably would have tweaked his future just a bit.
 
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Auburn because they are AUBURN. South Carolina just doesn't carry the same clout even tho they ranked higher and had spurrier then
 
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I’m going to with Auburn too.


That SC team was better than this current Auburn team....but.

The school matters. Beating Auburn will always look better than beating South Carolina. Plus it was @ Auburn.
 
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It'll be the unpopular opinion, but Butch's upset of South Carolina was bigger. Auburn's offense was already struggling before our game with them and their rushing attack was weak. They'll be lucky to limp into a bowl game at this point.

Whereas, South Carolina was an 11-2 team on the year and finished the season as the #4 ranked team in the country. If SC hadn't lost to us, it's conceivable that they could've made the national championship game.

Not to take anything away from a big win at Auburn. The thing of greater importance is whether Pruitt amasses more of those big wins than Butch. Butch's SCe upset definitely feels like an aberration in hindsight. Hopefully, Pruitt's win is not.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
It'll be the unpopular opinion, but Butch's upset of South Carolina was bigger. Auburn's offense was already struggling before our game with them and their rushing attack was weak. They'll be lucky to limp into a bowl game at this point.

Whereas, South Carolina was an 11-2 team on the year and finished the season as the #4 ranked team in the country. If SC hadn't lost to us, it's conceivable that they could've made the national championship game.

Not to take anything away from a big win at Auburn. The thing of greater importance is whether Pruitt amasses more of those big wins than Butch. Butch's SCe upset definitely feels like an aberration in hindsight. Hopefully, Pruitt's win is not.
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In the same vein, a West win on the road to break a conference drought stretching to 2016 using largely the same players counts for a bigger coaching leap imo. AU was not a more difficult win but it did mean more for this program. IMO.
 
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VolAllen said:
If he had a defense at all, he may still be here. But finishing LSU and UNC off for a final record of 8-5 in year 1 probably would have tweaked his future just a bit.
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Had he done that the coach worshipers of volnation would have built a statue of him right next to Neyland.
 
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The win over South Carolina knocked Spurrier out to the SECCG. I'm going to say that was a bigger win at the time but Butch couldn't use it as a spring board to better things. This win over Auburn will be remembered as a spring board to greater things in the future.
 
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revjayp said:
For me, it’s Pruitt/Auburn. I look at SC like I do Ky. Caught lightning in a bottle a few times but has never been a powerhouse football program. Auburn had SEC Championship/Playoffs/NC aspirations. Plus, it was at their place. What say you VolNation?
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Pruitt because Jones is not even a thing anymore
 
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BearCat204 said:
The jury is still out IMO. A signature win to me is a win that vaults a team to the next level. The 2013 win over SC didn't really do that IMO and I believe we lost the next 5, including Vandy and Kentucky.
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we did not lose to UK that year. we have only lost to them twice in the last 36 years. one was last year, the other the infamous Dooley loss of 2011.
 
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I gotta go with SC since Coach Jones was in year zero of a five year rebuild and Dooley only recruited 3 star players and left nothing for Coach to work with. It was amazing that Coach was able to accomplish as much as he did in year zero. He beat SC. He almost beat Georgia and Vanderbilt. Blew out WKU. Only lost by 45 to Oregon. After Coach beat SC and Coach knelt down like Neyland is doing in his statue I knew we finally had ourselves a football coach.
 
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In all seriousness I think at the time it happened the SC win was a bigger win because they were at the top of their game where Auburn is a team that lost their identity once the season's aspirations were lost. I also think the SC win is tainted in everyone's memory because up to that point the 2013 team had improved and almost beat Georgia and did beat SC. Everyone was on cloud nine and it looked like Jones had things turned around early. Then the next three games are big blowout loses and then he loses to Vandy in Neyland in a very ugly game and does not make a bowl. The ending to that season really soured the SC win and made it look like more of a fluke win instead of a signature win where a team turns the corner.
 
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maotai said:
In all seriousness I think at the time it happened the SC win was a bigger win because they were at the top of their game where Auburn is a team that lost their identity once the season's aspirations were lost. I also think the SC win is tainted in everyone's memory because up to that point the 2013 team had improved and almost beat Georgia and did beat SC. Everyone was on cloud nine and it looked like Jones had things turned around early. Then the next three games are big blowout loses and then he loses to Vandy in Neyland in a very ugly game and does not make a bowl. The ending to that season really soured the SC win and made it look like more of a fluke win instead of a signature win where a team turns the corner.
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Because with Jones they were all fluke wins. He couldn't string together Christmas lights. And this is from a guy that backed him for a long time. AU means a lot more for a team that had zero to believe in.
 
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