big plays: UT @ bottom of SEC over past 3 years

#27
#27
Not going to win many big games when our passing game is 90% short throws. I don't know if the coaching staff doesn't have any faith in Dobbs or if this is truly the way Butch wants to run his offense.
 
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volfan102455 said:
You all do realize that it does not take plays like this to win football games??
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You do realize that without a downfield passing threat, we become a one-dimensional offense, where all the opposing team has to do is stack the box, and stuff the run?

Go ask LSU how well that worked out against Wisconsin.
 
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kamoshika said:
"Controlling the game" means nothing if you're being outscored, as you will be most of the time if you average under 5 yards per play; that's an offensive failure and a recipe for disaster.

Of the 20 teams that averaged under 5 ypp last year, only one finished with a winning record: Northwestern. The other 19 teams combined for 72 wins.

The five stats that matter most in football are efficiency, explosiveness, field position, finishing drives and turnovers.

• If you win the field position battle, you win the game 72 percent of the time.
• If you win the turnover battle, you win the game 73 percent of the time.
• If you finish drives better than your opponent, you win 75 percent of the time.
• If you are more efficient than your opponent, you win 83 percent of the time.
• If you are more explosive than your opponent, you win 86 percent of the time.
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Good stuff, thanks for posting. Butch is great with the field position and turnover battle. Now he needs to stop being afraid to open up the offense.
 
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kamoshika said:
"Controlling the game" means nothing if you're being outscored, as you will be most of the time if you average under 5 yards per play; that's an offensive failure and a recipe for disaster.

Of the 20 teams that averaged under 5 ypp last year, only one finished with a winning record: Northwestern. The other 19 teams combined for 72 wins.

The five stats that matter most in football are efficiency, explosiveness, field position, finishing drives and turnovers.

• If you win the field position battle, you win the game 72 percent of the time.
• If you win the turnover battle, you win the game 73 percent of the time.
• If you finish drives better than your opponent, you win 75 percent of the time.
• If you are more efficient than your opponent, you win 83 percent of the time.
• If you are more explosive than your opponent, you win 86 percent of the time.
Everything You Need to Know About College Football Analytics
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I think the problem is the definition of explosiveness and the combining of that with other factors (aka the Miami example in the article). Most equate the word explosive to long pass plays for quick scores - that is not the only way a team can be explosive on offense.

I googled and found an interesting article on the Seattle Seahawks - definition of explosive play for them was 16+ for a pass (this is the net from the play not the length of the pass) or 12+ for a run. I bet most would not consider that explosive at all.
 
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Fulmer killed us in a lot of games with his excessive conservatism, and Jones/DeBord is just as bad. You throw down the field partly to keep DBs honest and give a defense something to think about so that they are not always crowding the LOS to stop Hurd and our horizontal, throw-the-ball-30-yards-across the-field-to-a-receiver-3-yards-past-the LOS passing game. You don't want to be stupid and throw 25 yard passes on third and 4, but you gotta make some big plays to beat good teams nowadays. Jones should have learned that last year after our offense geeked away the ou and florida games.
 
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This trend will continue when:
--Hurd rarely breaks completely out of pack for a long run
--Dobbs struggles to complete a further than 5 yds upfield
--The coaching staff has no confidence in Dobbs ability to the above and rarely call a long pass.
--WRs struggle to get separation and/or get behind the defense.
 
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Did Tennessee look like an SEC champion against Appalachian State, no, not even remotely close, perhaps they were reading their ranking and forgot that they have to bring it, each and every game. Even the big guys in the shadows.
 
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Volingatorland said:
We only have to average 4+ yds per play. That's how we control the pace of the game. Yeah big plays are exciting, but controlling the game is more important IMO.
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So is putting your opponent away and controlling the scoreboard. Everything else is just an excuse.
 
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Volingatorland said:
We only have to average 4+ yds per play. That's how we control the pace of the game. Yeah big plays are exciting, but controlling the game is more important IMO.
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Coach DeBord,

I appreciate your sentiments, however, teams all around us are making big-time plays, Week 1. Did you watch the Alabama game? Good competition will produce big plays + ball control -- we need to produce more and control more. You do realize that App State controlled the ball for 33.5 min, and we only 26.5 minutes?

I realize Coach Jones actually encourages/believes that a $200k Benz impresses players/recruits, but we will need some big plays this year to impress ourselves to ATL.

Regards,

UT-Rex
 
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#39
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UT-Rex said:
Coach DeBord,

I appreciate your sentiments, however, teams all around us are making big-time plays, Week 1. Did you watch the Alabama game? Good competition will produce big plays + ball control -- we need to produce more and control more. You do realize that App State controlled the ball for 33.5 min, and we only 26.5 minutes?

I realize Coach Jones actually encourages/believes that a $200k Benz impresses players/recruits, but we will need some big plays this year to impress ourselves to ATL.

Regards,

UT-Rex
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I'm a believer that the short game opens the long game. Secondary cheats up and opens up the deep ball, thus making the run and short pass game paramount.

On a side note, are you a UT Beta alum? We have a Rex that posts practice updates in our tailgate group. Just thought you might be him.
 
#40
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Personally I like slow methodical offense that uses the clock and wins games with a well rested defense. I know that's not popular and it doesn't let you defeat opponents 77-10, but its what I prefer, probably because I watched Fulmer for 15 years, or however long it was.

That said, I havent liked the Jones/Debord offense. It just seems ineffective. Not slow, methodical and effective. Though they have shined (shone?) at times and I give them credit for that. But I want sustained drives against Florida and Alabama (and Va Tech) not just piddly schools like Northwestern.
 
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