Bernie and a 3rd party run?

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Everyone keeps talking about a GOP 3rd party run, what about crazy Bernie? He's stated multiple times he's only running as a Dem for media coverage. Now Obama has stated it's time for everyone to get behind Hildabeast (according to NYT) and Crazy Bernie is chapped.
So LG, Ras and the rest of the Libs on here, how does that sit with you?
 
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ReaderVol said:
Everyone keeps talking about a GOP 3rd party run, what about crazy Bernie? He's stated multiple times he's only running as a Dem for media coverage. Now Obama has stated it's time for everyone to get behind Hildabeast (according to NYT) and Crazy Bernie is chapped.
So LG, Ras and the rest of the Libs on here, how does that sit with you?
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I'm a liberal?
 
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ReaderVol said:
I couldn't disagree more.
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Bernie's main goal in entering the race was to drag the Democratic Party and Clinton further left. He has done that. I would be shocked if he's willing to risk putting a Republican in office by running third party.
 
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UTCVol said:
Bernie's main goal in entering the race was to drag the Democratic Party and Clinton further left. He has done that. I would be shocked if he's willing to risk putting a Republican in office by running third party.
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He is NOT a Dem and has stated so many times. And he got in the race because he wanted to be POTUS. Proof? He has no shot and won't leave. Obama is now telling people to get behind Hildabeast and the ONLY reason he would say so is to send a message to Crazy Bernie and his nut job base. Make no mistake, he want the Oval Office.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Libertarians wouldn't typically vote for Hillary just to see the system collapse.
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How else are we going to get the Dems or Repubs to rein themselves in fiscally? The Dems will break us with social programs and the GOP will break us with military spending/police state spending.

The only way for it to happen is if they are forced to be fiscally responsible after a crash.
 
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ReaderVol said:
He is NOT a Dem and has stated so many times. And he got in the race because he wanted to be POTUS. Proof? He has no shot and won't leave. Obama is now telling people to get behind Hildabeast and the ONLY reason he would say so is to send a message to Crazy Bernie and his nut job base. Make no mistake, he want the Oval Office.
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He's not a Dem because the party is too far right for him. I'm sure he knew it was an extreme longshot from the beginning to defeat Clinton, but by running such a good campaign he has forced the party to move left on several issues. His lingering presence continues to press the issue and probably indoctrinates many more people to his message.

Bernie fought for equality during the civil rights movement and is such a white guiltist that he said white people don't know what it's like to be poor. You think someone like that would be willing to risk putting Trump in the Oval Office?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How else are we going to get the Dems or Repubs to rein themselves in fiscally? The Dems will break us with social programs and the GOP will break us with military spending/police state spending.

The only way for it to happen is if they are forced to be fiscally responsible after a crash.
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So destroying the Republic in a financial crash is the only way to do it? And the pure anarchy and violence that's sure to erupt upon doing so is wanted and desired?

How about no.
 
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tumscalcium said:
So?

You are a pro-Russian and anti-American. You're not libertarian. At all.

How libertarian is this Russia you love so much?
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There are no libertarian paradises that I am aware of anywhere right now... not even in the US.

Just because I disagree with the direction this country is going, that doesn't make me anti-American. Nor does it make me pro-Russian if I see some of the things they are doing and we we had the same type of thinking and innovation here in the US.
 
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UTCVol said:
He's not a Dem because the party is too far right for him. I'm sure he knew it was an extreme longshot from the beginning to defeat Clinton, but by running such a good campaign he has forced the party to move left on several issues. His lingering presence continues to press the issue and probably indoctrinates many more people to his message.

Bernie fought for equality during the civil rights movement and is such a white guiltist that he said white people don't know what it's like to be poor. You think someone like that would be willing to risk putting Trump in the Oval Office?
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I think that HE thinks he could win. Maybe he won't but I think he very well may be thinking it. He was visibly pissed at Obama for telling people to get behind Hildabeast. And behind the scene you can bet your bottom dollar it's being looked at.
 
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UTCVol said:
Bernie's main goal in entering the race was to drag the Democratic Party and Clinton further left. He has done that. I would be shocked if he's willing to risk putting a Republican in office by running third party.
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This is all true. He's succeed in pulling Hillary a little further to the left, and that was definitely a goal should he not get the nomination. And you're right, his ego isn't quite as fragile as Trump (I assume that's who you were referring to?). He won't jeopardize letting a Republican win the election.
 
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Grand Vol said:
So destroying the Republic in a financial crash is the only way to do it? And the pure anarchy and violence that's sure to erupt upon doing so is wanted and desired?

How about no.
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You act as though a crash or revolution is anti-American.

The purging needs to occur and will occur at some point. It is not a matter of "if", but "when". No matter who you choose in November, this country is still going to go over the cliff. You can either let it slow burn like what has occurred in Japan over the last 20-25 years or we can get it going immediately and start the rebuilding so that another generation of Americans don't have to have these problems rested on their shoulders.
 
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G0 BIG 0RANGE said:
This is all true. He's succeed in pulling Hillary a little further to the left, and that was definitely a goal should he not get the nomination. And you're right, his ego isn't quite as fragile as Trump (I assume that's who you were referring to?). He won't jeopardize letting a Republican win the election.
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I'm sure he saw winning the nomination as a goal that would speed up the process, but incremental change isn't the worst thing in the world. Now he has to hope that his base continues to fight for the policies he has promoted even after he's not front and center.

I was referring to Trump, who has no reason to be loyal to a party because his ideology is all over the place. Bernie is consistently to the left of the Democratic mainstream on almost every issue (besides guns, maybe).
 
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Let's just go completely crazy and have

D: Hillary

R: Whoever the GOP chosen to be their puppet.

I: Sanders

I: Trump


Trump wins big in a 4 way race.
 
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UTCVol said:
Bernie's main goal in entering the race was to drag the Democratic Party and Clinton further left.
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You can't get further left than HRC. She is a feminist and a communist. And to be honest, why would he have to move the party one way or the other? As long as the candidate has a (D) by their name, the core/base voter in that party will vote for Mickey Mouse.
 
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