Battle of Bristol attendance recorded lowered?

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Mods- I looked for a thread about this - please move if there is one.

Just listening to RTI radio and was distracted. Heard them say Guiness lowered the official count down to (I think) something like 130,000. Said they didn't count media, band, etc and that towards the end, the lines were moving so slow, they quit scanning tickets.

Someone elaborate if they know!

GBO
 
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I thought at a normal college game they count everybody. Everybody. Concessions. Third string punter. Smokey dog's trainer. Guy who holds Butch's gatorade. Everybody. But I could be wrong I guess. I hadnt heard anything about a revision.
 
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Mods- I looked for a thread about this - please move if there is one.

Just listening to RTI radio and was distracted. Heard them say Guiness lowered the official count down to (I think) something like 130,000. Said they didn't count media, band, etc and that towards the end, the lines were moving so slow, they quit scanning tickets.

Someone elaborate if they know!

GBO

Same story was on Channel 8 news.
 
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Yeah after waiting next to the gate for an hour and a half and moving approx. 10 ft, people just broke the fence down and started flooding in. Didn't have to show our passes, nobody was even looking.
 
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25,000 less.
Record should stand for a while, but that makes it easier to break. 25,000 will be total attendance of Miami - App State this weekend.
 
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There were thousands of people outside the gates with like 20 minutes to kickoff. So for 15+ minutes they just told everyone to empty their pockets and rushed everyone through. Guinness could only count scanned tickets, whereas the announced attendance was probably accurate.

I think they did a gigapixel if someone wants to volunteer to count all the faces.
 
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They stop scanning the tickets, went to just showing them. Didn't go to the overall count because lack of scan records
 
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Mods- I looked for a thread about this - please move if there is one.

Just listening to RTI radio and was distracted. Heard them say Guiness lowered the official count down to (I think) something like 130,000. Said they didn't count media, band, etc and that towards the end, the lines were moving so slow, they quit scanning tickets.

Someone elaborate if they know!

GBO

Official attendance, according to the NCAA, is tickets sold. "Tickets sold" is a number that actually includes all those physically in the building, including the teams, band, media, and Stadium workers. The official attendance for the game remains the 150,000+ number.

The record that Guinness certified is only "fans" in the stands, not actual attendance. Their number was based on the tickets scanned at the gate. Bristol is trying to work with them on that, because scanners went down for a period of time at a couple of gates, leaving thousands on counter. It is possible, the one likely, that the record will be updated from the Guiness perspective.
 
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So, the real question is what did Guinness advertise as the record that was broken, and did it only include scanned tickets from fans?
 
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Then the Guinness record should be most tickets scanned for a football game.

The NCAA record should be most fans to attend a football game.
 
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The lines were so slow getting in the gate, and people started to get restless. Security was like TSA, with emptying pockets and walking through metal detectors. But as kickoff approached, they just started waving folks through, and stopped scanning tickets
 
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The lines were so slow getting in the gate, and people started to get restless. Security was like TSA, with emptying pockets and walking through metal detectors. But as kickoff approached, they just started waving folks through, and stopped scanning tickets

Sorry, I guess that's not really news. But hey, I'm just trying to get my post total up so that I can start threads and sell tickets on the VN forum instead of Craigslist!
 
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Official attendance, according to the NCAA, is tickets sold. "Tickets sold" is a number that actually includes all those physically in the building, including the teams, band, media, and Stadium workers. The official attendance for the game remains the 150,000+ number.

The record that Guinness certified is only "fans" in the stands, not actual attendance. Their number was based on the tickets scanned at the gate. Bristol is trying to work with them on that, because scanners went down for a period of time at a couple of gates, leaving thousands on counter. It is possible, the one likely, that the record will be updated from the Guiness perspective.

I'm only half kidding when I say they should count the people present in the Gigapixel picture if they need evidence.
 
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Mods- I looked for a thread about this - please move if there is one.

Just listening to RTI radio and was distracted. Heard them say Guiness lowered the official count down to (I think) something like 130,000. Said they didn't count media, band, etc and that towards the end, the lines were moving so slow, they quit scanning tickets.

Someone elaborate if they know!

GBO

Here is what I can tell you - if they used scanned tickets - they might have well have just guessed. Gate 8 was a complete cluster f -- after not moving for an hour and 15 minutes, me and several thousands of my closest friends were let in without security checks, scans, pulled stubs, etc. with 5 minutes to go before kickoff. Who ever was scanning tickets as well as the cops were nowhere to be seen - which may have saved their lives. ;-) Imagine if you will a South American soccer stampede situation and you might be close to the mess at gate 8. If you look at the panaramic picture - not many empty seats - I think it was closer to 160,000 but I am only judging by gate 8.
 
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Why don't they pull up the gigapixel picture and count the people in it? Surely it will show that there was an extra 25,000 over the "count"
 
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Damm, who got cheap and hired Florida election officials to count attendance?

Heh, noice. :good!:

I'm sure Michigan fans will jump on this like a fat kid on a hot dog, never mind that it doesn't change their erasure from that part of the college record books.

What's important is not what the Guiness Book recognizes, it's what the NCAA recognizes. And based on what's been written thus far, it appears the NCAA will recognize 156,990 based on total ticket sales and attendance in accordance with their own guidelines.

Go Vols!
 
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I thought at a normal college game they count everybody. Everybody. Concessions. Third string punter. Smokey dog's trainer. Guy who holds Butch's gatorade. Everybody. But I could be wrong I guess. I hadnt heard anything about a revision.

They need 25K people for all that?
 
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Official attendance, according to the NCAA, is tickets sold. "Tickets sold" is a number that actually includes all those physically in the building, including the teams, band, media, and Stadium workers. The official attendance for the game remains the 150,000+ number.

The record that Guinness certified is only "fans" in the stands, not actual attendance. Their number was based on the tickets scanned at the gate. Bristol is trying to work with them on that, because scanners went down for a period of time at a couple of gates, leaving thousands on counter. It is possible, the one likely, that the record will be updated from the Guiness perspective.

I work in ticket ops, and I can't tell you how frustrating scanners can be. I feel for the poor people at Bristol.
 
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