Basketball RPI

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#2
hm. that bodes well. if it ended today, we'd be what, a 6 or 7 seed?
 
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vol_freak said:
Out today. Vols are #29.
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Where did you see that? Ncaasports.com has not been updated yet, and collegerpi.com has the Vols at #16. The guy who runs the latter site has the Vols projected as a #8 seed before the loss to UF. We must sweep this homestand!
 
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I maintain that the RPI is a very poor measure at this point of the season. Check back when you have 4 games left in regular season conference play.
 
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#6
People should have assumed in their bracketology decisions that we were going to lose to UF sans 5
 
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ukvols said:
Where did you see that? Ncaasports.com has not been updated yet, and collegerpi.com has the Vols at #16. The guy who runs the latter site has the Vols projected as a #8 seed before the loss to UF. We must sweep this homestand!
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Jimmy Hyams.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I maintain that the RPI is a very poor measure at this point of the season. Check back when you have 4 games left in regular season conference play.
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I maintain that you only maintain that because the Gators are ranked surprisingly low. :)

I might agree that most polls are worthless early in the season but to say it's a poor measure at this point is absurd. We are 75% of the way through the season and RPI will play a huge factor in bubble teams that get in and those that don't.
 
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#9
i'm not convinced UT is in yet. we are close but definately on the bubble, and with our remaining schedule it'll be tough to win 4 more. i still think it could come down to us winning a couple of con. tourney games to solidify a spot in the dance. our non con wins definately help, we need memphis to run the table. if they lose it'll kill their rpi and ranking, thusly downgrading our sos and key win of the year. hook 'em cowboys as well.
 
#10
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lawgator1 said:
I maintain that the RPI is a very poor measure at this point of the season. Check back when you have 4 games left in regular season conference play.
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Just don't want to give the Vols any credit at all LG, right?:no: Are you mad at Peyton still?:popcorn:
 
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vol_freak said:
I maintain that you only maintain that because the Gators are ranked surprisingly low. :)

I might agree that most polls are worthless early in the season but to say it's a poor measure at this point is absurd. We are 75% of the way through the season and RPI will play a huge factor in bubble teams that get in and those that don't.
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Are they? I haven't looked even once this season, that's how much I respect the RPI right now. What are we? Oh, please tell me we are below the #20-something Vols that we just blew out by 16 or so. That would rather prove my point.
 
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Florida was 19 as of last Monday's RPI and Tennessee was 21. That was before they played each other. I can't find this weeks ranking online.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Are they? I haven't looked even once this season, that's how much I respect the RPI right now. What are we?
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Just because you don't respect it doesn't lessen it's importance.
 
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#14
RPI isn't as relevant at this point since opponents' records aren't finalized.

RPI is a solid indicator at the season's end.
 
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volinbham said:
RPI isn't as relevant at this point since opponents' records aren't finalized.

RPI is a solid indicator at the season's end.
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I know what you guys are saying but that's like saying we can't determine who #1 is until after the championship game. You can't but yet we still have polls.

Like I mentioned, with 75% of games played the RPI is about 75% accurate of what it will be when the season is finished. I am not arguing that this poll is somehow an exact indicator of which teams are best but it's going to be used by the selection committee regardless and that is why it's valuable.

I guess what I am saying is that it's actual accuracy (as with most polls) is irrelevant. What does matter is that this ranking will affect which teams make the tourney and their seeding.
 
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vol_freak said:
I am not arguing that this poll is somehow an exact indicator of which teams are best but it's going to be used by the selection committee regardless and that is why it's valuable.
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Freak you hit the nail right on the head. The selection committee thinks the RPI is the bible of college basketball. You can throw out the other polls when it comes to selection time.
 
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Big Orange Diesel said:
Freak you hit the nail right on the head. The selection committee thinks the RPI is the bible of college basketball. You can throw out the other polls when it comes to selection time.
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They pay a lot of attention to it on Selection Sunday, which is about when I start paying attention to it, too.
 
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vol_freak said:
Like I mentioned, with 75% of games played the RPI is about 75% accurate of what it will be when the season is finished. I am not arguing that this poll is somehow an exact indicator of which teams are best but it's going to be used by the selection committee regardless and that is why it's valuable.
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I agree completely. My point is that the RPI can change by season's end. If our current RPI is our finishing RPI then we are in great shape. If teams like Texas, Memphis, OSU (both of them), etc struggle down the stretch then our RPI drops.
 
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volinbham said:
I agree completely. My point is that the RPI can change by season's end. If our current RPI is our finishing RPI then we are in great shape. If teams like Texas, Memphis, OSU (both of them), etc struggle down the stretch then our RPI drops.
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Double Bingo.

Also, apparently, true.
 
#21
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volinbham said:
I agree completely. My point is that the RPI can change by season's end. If our current RPI is our finishing RPI then we are in great shape. If teams like Texas, Memphis, OSU (both of them), etc struggle down the stretch then our RPI drops.
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Of course it can change by season's end. It is what it is: the RPI ranking 3/4 through the season.

Every poll is going to be more accurate after the season than it is during. I just assumed that goes without saying.

I think we still have a few big wins down the stretch that will really help our RPI. Plus we don't have to worry about Memphis losing, they never play anybody. :)
 
#22
#22
RPI or no RPI, 7-9 is the absolute minimum conference record UT needs to get in, and that's including a win or two in the SEC tournament.

The LSU game is a virtual must-win. Beating them basically bursts their bubble, and they are one of the teams we're in a dogfight with for the 5th/6th/7th(??) spots for the SEC in the Dance.
 
#23
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vol_freak said:
I know what you guys are saying but that's like saying we can't determine who #1 is until after the championship game. You can't but yet we still have polls.

Like I mentioned, with 75% of games played the RPI is about 75% accurate of what it will be when the season is finished. I am not arguing that this poll is somehow an exact indicator of which teams are best but it's going to be used by the selection committee regardless and that is why it's valuable.

I guess what I am saying is that it's actual accuracy (as with most polls) is irrelevant. What does matter is that this ranking will affect which teams make the tourney and their seeding.
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I'm with you freak.... this ain't football. Most teams have played 20+ basketball games and the RPI ratings will only change slightly from game to game from here on out. Whereas in football, one game has a huge impact on a team's BCS rank.
 
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