Barnes coaching style

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voluntildeath

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really would love to hear from people with basketball knowledge.
At this point has Barnes stressed his team to the point of being unproductive? Or has he been too dependant on the producers and not allowed others to develop? ( aka fulky over Alexander )
There is some unreasonable decline of efficiency and I can't put a finger on it. Is it a lack of rotation? Is it a lack of talent and other teams have caught up? The synergy from the first of the season seems missing and I'd like to know if others thibk its a coaching issue
 
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I think its pretty simple. Bowden and Turner cant throw it in the ocean right now. Slump. Alexander is getting a lot of flack for lack of production but honestly he gets called for fouls others guys get away with. And the fouls being called on us as a team is seemingly double our opponents recently.
 
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iKrager said:
Yes. He’s been our most clutch FT shooter for the last two years. His shooting touch hasn’t been 100% on since he got injured.
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My 11 year started screaming bloody murder wanting Grant to shoot them.
Grant is statistically a better ft shooter and so is bone and Bowden


Not sure if Bone and Bowden were on the court at that time though
 
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wmcovol said:
I wish they’d played more zone defense once up 9 in 2nd half.
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I asked that question in another thread....

Can anyone explain to me why we didn't change to a 2-3 instead of man in the last 4 minutes of the game--especially when Smart just dribbled right past our guys and scored what seemed like 8 straight points
 
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MikeVol44 said:
I asked that question in another thread....

Can anyone explain to me why we didn't change to a 2-3 instead of man in the last 4 minutes of the game--especially when Smart just dribbled right past our guys and scored what seemed like 8 straight points
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Logical post for sure but Barnes has never used a zone more than just a change up in games

I hope we use it a lot next Saturday
 
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BruinVol said:
Logical post for sure but Barnes has never used a zone more than just a change up in games

I hope we use it a lot next Saturday
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I am not a BB expert at all....not trying to be. But it seems that a zone would've kept LSU from clearing out the paint and turning it into a 1 on 1 matchup--which we lost .

What would be the NEGATIVES of going into a zone against LSU in the last 4 minutes?
 
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MikeVol44 said:
I am not a BB expert at all....not trying to be. But it seems that a zone would've kept LSU from clearing out the paint and turning it into a 1 on 1 game--which we lost .

What would be the NEGATIVES of going into a zone against LSU in the last 4 minutes?
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The negative would have been giving up a 3 over the top and allowing them easier offensive boards .
 
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MikeVol44 said:
I asked that question in another thread....

Can anyone explain to me why we didn't change to a 2-3 instead of man in the last 4 minutes of the game--especially when Smart just dribbled right past our guys and scored what seemed like 8 straight points
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Florida had just beaten LSU playing zone so the blueprint was there. Zone shut them down at the end of the first half, but we didn't go to it but once that I can recall in the 2nd half. Barnes LOVES the man D, but unless we can stop dribble penetration then we have to go to a zone IMO.
 
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voluntildeath said:
really would love to hear from people with basketball knowledge.
At this point has Barnes stressed his team to the point of being unproductive? Or has he been too dependant on the producers and not allowed others to develop? ( aka fulky over Alexander )
There is some unreasonable decline of efficiency and I can't put a finger on it. Is it a lack of rotation? Is it a lack of talent and other teams have caught up? The synergy from the first of the season seems missing and I'd like to know if others thibk its a coaching issue
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Fair questions. Every game gets me more worried about our lack of depth. We are usually in a 7-man rotation with the vast majority of minutes. I think our bench produced eight points today, with Barnes playing nine total...which was encouraging, at least to me. But it wasn't really a "rotation," as Walker had three minutes and Pons had six. I just have a hard time seeing us going very far with a 7-man rotation but that looks like maybe it is what it is. Bowden, Turner, et al will find their shots and will win us some more games.

But the clock is ticking for Walker and Johnson especially to actually contribute and earn some more playing time. It may be too late for them to up their game to the point where Barnes has to keep them in a game, where they are assets rather than liabilities. Johnson didn't even play today. As I see it, we need great defense, rebounds, and points from Walker, Johnson, and Pons for them to get more minutes. Not seeing it yet (certainly not today) and no reason to expect it to emerge. But more production from them = more minutes for them = more production from our bench = a chance to keep our starters fresher = a better chance of getting past the sweet 16.
 
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BruinVol said:
I have only one coaching issue with today.


Should Turner have been the one shooting the technicals?


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My only issue. Who can stop guard penetration at the top of the key. Didn’t say keep a talented team from scoring ... just stopping the dribble.
 
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Barnes being a fing hardhead is the problem. His late season coaching has always been subpar. He is what he is. hes not going to change.
 
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I liked how Barnes went after the ref after the final buzzer. Then he didn't whine about the refs in his post game radio interview. I hope that every player saw the passion.

I'm disappointed losing 2 of 3 with 4 more challenging games ahead, but it might be playing out well for the post season if we avoid injuries and illness running through the roster. Might have an us versus the world Cuonzo type thing playing out except with the fan base loving them. Had a run at #1 and garnered very little respect from outside the family. Had to watch Loyola-Chicago last year. Working through a bit of adversity.
 
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njvols said:
My only issue. Who can stop guard penetration at the top of the key. Didn’t say keep a talented team from scoring ... just stopping the dribble.
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This baffles me as well, as Quick as Bone is, he never can stay I front of the elite guards. I think it's more effort than anything. Will give him a pass since he had the flu yesterday but he must do a better job defensively. Maybe he's already practicing for The "no defense" NBA
 
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1985Vols said:
This baffles me as well, as Quick as Bone is, he never can stay I front of the elite guards. I think it's more effort than anything. Will give him a pass since he had the flu yesterday but he must do a better job defensively. Maybe he's already practicing for The "no defense" NBA
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Yesterday was simple. We played a great defensive game until we got in foul trouble and they knew they could drive right at us. Bone and Bowden had 4 fouls and were easy pickings because of that.


Their guy scored 17 pts in the last 6min of regulation and OT.

Even with all of that we still played a very solid defensive effort.
 
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Playing starters a lot of minutes will wear us down eventually, if it hasn’t already, jmo...

It’s not the games like yesterday...it’s the games your starters on on the floor with 56 seconds on the clock...up 18 points..

Team looks tired...
 
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voluntildeath said:
really would love to hear from people with basketball knowledge.
At this point has Barnes stressed his team to the point of being unproductive? Or has he been too dependant on the producers and not allowed others to develop? ( aka fulky over Alexander )
There is some unreasonable decline of efficiency and I can't put a finger on it. Is it a lack of rotation? Is it a lack of talent and other teams have caught up? The synergy from the first of the season seems missing and I'd like to know if others thibk its a coaching issue
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I can't question CRB at this point. There is no clear roadmap to a title but I would follow his direction over mine anytime.
 
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voluntildeath said:
really would love to hear from people with basketball knowledge.
At this point has Barnes stressed his team to the point of being unproductive? Or has he been too dependant on the producers and not allowed others to develop? ( aka fulky over Alexander )
There is some unreasonable decline of efficiency and I can't put a finger on it. Is it a lack of rotation? Is it a lack of talent and other teams have caught up? The synergy from the first of the season seems missing and I'd like to know if others thibk its a coaching issue
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Can not respond to coaching style. but as to Alexander, I said early in the season he was lacking in several ways. However I believe Barnes is getting all he has to give. Face it, he is not bulky enough to mix it up with the big boys. He seems to be too much finesse and not enough mix it up. Just looks like a leaf in the wind when he is in with big guys.
 
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