Bamers complaining about low hit on Tua

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But they (or their toothless ancestors) were probably in Birmingham that day Curt Jarvis hit Tony Robinson low and destroyed his career.

Thinking about that reminded me that that tackle may have cost the Vols a shot at a NC. No doubt Tennessee would have easily ran the table after bamer (Vols would have beat Bama worst that day if TR hadn’t got hurt). Instead it took the Vols a game to adjust to Daryl Dickey at QB and tied a good GT team before running the table.

By end of the reg season, everyone loved Miami even though OU was #1. But Vols destroyed The U and OU beat PSU to win it all. Vols only loss was a 7 pt loss at UF, who beat Miami bad and Miami had beat OU bad in Norman. Without that tie to GT, Vols would had a very good claim to a NC even with a tie to Rose Bowl champ UCLA in the opener & a close lost to Fla (UF was on probation for having a payroll surpassed only by Dallas Cowboys) especially after the drubbing the Vols laid on Miami on 1/1/1986. What if.....

Buck Fama and their QB
 
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we would complain too

that being said it looked like a clean hit when I saw it. this type of thing will happen a lot more with emphasis on targeting.
 
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LouderVol said:
we would complain too

that being said it looked like a clean hit when I saw it. this type of thing will happen a lot more with emphasis on targeting.
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It was a clean hit. It was above the knee. Doesn't mean he missed on purpose.
 
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bamawriter said:
It was a clean hit. It was above the knee. Doesn't mean he missed on purpose.
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Had to lol at Saban in the news conference today. The guy ask a legitimate question and he went off on him.Not sure where he's coming off about Tua.
If I'm Tuas teammate I can see him limping, know he doesn't need to play against the Citadel and still get up for the game.

If Tuas healthy I give any team through the playoff less than 10% of winning and will give Clemson 20%. If Tua is hurt this number will rise considerably, as you know, but if Jalen is also hurt you all have no chance.

So I guess my question is, don't you think it's imperative to sit Tua and let him try to heal?
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Had to lol at Saban in the news conference today. The guy ask a legitimate question and he went off on him.Not sure where he's coming off about Tua.
If I'm Tuas teammate I can see him limping, know he doesn't need to play against the Citadel and still get up for the game.

If Tuas healthy I give any team through the playoff less than 10% of winning and will give Clemson 20%. If Tua is hurt this number will rise considerably, as you know, but if Jalen is also hurt you all have no chance.

So I guess my question is, don't you think it's imperative to sit Tua and let him try to heal?
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Eh, I see your point, but the injury isn't going to get worse from just playing on it. And if he gets hit against The Citadel, something is wrong. Tua simply needs to be done early.
 
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Is that a football play?


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NCAA RULE Article 9B: "When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit him forcibly at the knee "area" or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [Exceptions: (1) It is not a foul if the offensive player is a runner not in a passing posture, either inside or outside the tackle box. (2) It is not a foul if the defender grabs or wraps this opponent in an attempt to make a conventional tackle without making forcible contact with the head or shoulder. (3) It is not a foul if the defender is not rushing unabated or is blocked or fouled into this opponent.] "

Therefore it most certainly was a penalty and targeting.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Is that a football play?


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NCAA RULE Article 9B: "When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit him forcibly at the knee "area" or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [Exceptions: (1) It is not a foul if the offensive player is a runner not in a passing posture, either inside or outside the tackle box. (2) It is not a foul if the defender grabs or wraps this opponent in an attempt to make a conventional tackle without making forcible contact with the head or shoulder. (3) It is not a foul if the defender is not rushing unabated or is blocked or fouled into this opponent.] "

Therefore it most certainly was a penalty and targeting.
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Keep bitching, contact was clearly made above the knee. In fact, he was clearly aiming at the ball in the gut area.

Boohoo boohoo boohoo.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Keep bitching, contact was clearly made above the knee. In fact, he was clearly aiming at the ball in the gut area.

Boohoo boohoo boohoo.
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Apparently, video is once again getting in the way of a stupid thread.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Is that a football play?


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NCAA RULE Article 9B: "When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit him forcibly at the knee "area" or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [Exceptions: (1) It is not a foul if the offensive player is a runner not in a passing posture, either inside or outside the tackle box. (2) It is not a foul if the defender grabs or wraps this opponent in an attempt to make a conventional tackle without making forcible contact with the head or shoulder. (3) It is not a foul if the defender is not rushing unabated or is blocked or fouled into this opponent.] "

Therefore it most certainly was a penalty and targeting.
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His helmet hit at Tuas waistline. No penalty.
 
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bamawriter said:
Knee sprain. Probably PCL.
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I'll go with that but to say there's no more risk to it can't be correct. I think something is partially torn already but there's always the possibility of completely tearing the same injury or even blowing the knee out completely.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I'll go with that but to say there's no more risk to it can't be correct. I think something is partially torn already but there's always the possibility of completely tearing the same injury or even blowing the knee out completely.
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A sprain, by definition, would be a partial tear. But a mild sprain of the PCL isn't going to be made worse by playing on it. It can be made worse by contact, for sure. Tua's biggest problems so far, in the Mizzou and LSU games, seem to involved the brace moving around and digging into his leg.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Is that a football play?


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NCAA RULE Article 9B: "When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit him forcibly at the knee "area" or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [Exceptions: (1) It is not a foul if the offensive player is a runner not in a passing posture, either inside or outside the tackle box. (2) It is not a foul if the defender grabs or wraps this opponent in an attempt to make a conventional tackle without making forcible contact with the head or shoulder. (3) It is not a foul if the defender is not rushing unabated or is blocked or fouled into this opponent.] "

Therefore it most certainly was a penalty and targeting.
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Can you find a video of Tony Robinson's 1985 knee injury for comparison.

TIA
 
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bamawriter said:
Targeting isn't the issue here.
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Concur, I don't think it is targeting or a penalty.

Tusk seems to think so, however.

TUSKtimes said:
Is that a football play?


NCAA RULE Article 9B: "When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit him forcibly at the knee "area" or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [Exceptions: (1) It is not a foul if the offensive player is a runner not in a passing posture, either inside or outside the tackle box. (2) It is not a foul if the defender grabs or wraps this opponent in an attempt to make a conventional tackle without making forcible contact with the head or shoulder. (3) It is not a foul if the defender is not rushing unabated or is blocked or fouled into this opponent.] "

Therefore it most certainly was a penalty and targeting.
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TUSKtimes said:
Is that a football play?


2m8upl.gif



NCAA RULE Article 9B: "When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit him forcibly at the knee "area" or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [Exceptions: (1) It is not a foul if the offensive player is a runner not in a passing posture, either inside or outside the tackle box. (2) It is not a foul if the defender grabs or wraps this opponent in an attempt to make a conventional tackle without making forcible contact with the head or shoulder. (3) It is not a foul if the defender is not rushing unabated or is blocked or fouled into this opponent.] "

Therefore it most certainly was a penalty and targeting.
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that was clearly the quad.

also I have literally never seen this call before. it would fit so many stereotypes for this to be called against whoever Bama was playing.

if Tua wasn't hurt before, that play would have gotten zero attention.
 
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bamawriter said:
It was a clean hit. It was above the knee. Doesn't mean he missed on purpose.
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Can't aim high, not sure who it was that hit him but if Tua was bigger it makes sense to go low then try and tackle at the center of gravity.
 
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