Backing In? Nah. Winning? Not Unfathomable.

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BeecherVol said:
It will be until Bama forces AU to throw the ball to gain a first down.
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This is true. It seems like from the Bama games I've watched this year the trend is they get a lead of 10-14 and the other team seems to implode and turn it over and Bama gets points off their defense. It happened in the TAMU game a few weeks ago and then again Saturday night. I despise them but their defense is dang good.
 
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Vol$_Deep_11_9 said:
This is true. It seems like from the Bama games I've watched this year the trend is they get a lead of 10-14 and the other team seems to implode and turn it over and Bama gets points off their defense. It happened in the TAMU game a few weeks ago and then again Saturday night. I despise them but their defense is dang good.
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Alabama's defense is good enough, consistently enough, to make any team they play do things they don't like doing.

you run in to a brick wall almost every run....you can't get the ball out of the QB's hands before he's getting pressured...

it's all about their front 7. you can't go wide, you can't go up the middle, you can't throw fast enough...Bama doesn't miss tackles...it just puts pressure on offensive coaches that make them hiccup at some point.

watching that game Saturday night, did you ever get the feeling it was a tie game? i didn't....though the score board didn't indicate it...it felt like Bama was blowing them out.

think about htat...they made LSU play from behind tied 0-0 for most of the game. once up 7, you just felt like there's no way LSU could come back...up 10...might as well been 30.

Bama's offense is nothing to write home about, but in a close game, they're going to get the opportunity to hit a big play or 2 that can break it open.

the only thing LSU did to help themselves is they didn't give up an NOTD's.

the jig is up...if you want to beat Bama...you better have a BAD ASS offensive line and be able to run the ball...some how. because they aren't going to make the mistakes that will cost them a game, offensively. heck, even when they do...you just trot out that defense....
 
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jakez4ut said:
Alabama's defense is good enough, consistently enough, to make any team they play do things they don't like doing.

you run in to a brick wall almost every run....you can't get the ball out of the QB's hands before he's getting pressured...

it's all about their front 7. you can't go wide, you can't go up the middle, you can't throw fast enough...Bama doesn't miss tackles...it just puts pressure on offensive coaches that make them hiccup at some point.

watching that game Saturday night, did you ever get the feeling it was a tie game? i didn't....though the score board didn't indicate it...it felt like Bama was blowing them out.

think about htat...they made LSU play from behind tied 0-0 for most of the game. once up 7, you just felt like there's no way LSU could come back...up 10...might as well been 30.

Bama's offense is nothing to write home about, but in a close game, they're going to get the opportunity to hit a big play or 2 that can break it open.

the only thing LSU did to help themselves is they didn't give up an NOTD's.

the jig is up...if you want to beat Bama...you better have a BAD ASS offensive line and be able to run the ball...some how. because they aren't going to make the mistakes that will cost them a game, offensively. heck, even when they do...you just trot out that defense....
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No you're right, you never felt like LSU was going to do anything. I knew when they missed that first FG and then if I'm thinking right Bama partially blocked another one, LSU wasn't going to get any closer than that getting points.

I will say though I feel like to an extent LSU showed everybody on defense how you limit them in the run game on offense. For 3.5 quarters I thought Hurts looked like a freshman. He's looked like that when pressured to throw the ball all season IMO but Saturday night he only hit one deep ball that I can remember and then when he scrambled aside from their only TD he didn't get much. He actually had two pretty big turnovers if I'm remembering right.

Like you said though, you just trot out that defense and it's alright. I think that's the only game this season I've not seen them get a NOTD
 
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Beat Kentucky then go from there.

Jones is right about one thing with his cliches, it's a one game season.
 
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Yeah... I don't have much hope for Auburn beating Bama, but man it sure would be nice
 
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Vol$_Deep_11_9 said:
No you're right, you never felt like LSU was going to do anything. I knew when they missed that first FG and then if I'm thinking right Bama partially blocked another one, LSU wasn't going to get any closer than that getting points.

I will say though I feel like to an extent LSU showed everybody on defense how you limit them in the run game on offense. For 3.5 quarters I thought Hurts looked like a freshman. He's looked like that when pressured to throw the ball all season IMO but Saturday night he only hit one deep ball that I can remember and then when he scrambled aside from their only TD he didn't get much. He actually had two pretty big turnovers if I'm remembering right.

Like you said though, you just trot out that defense and it's alright. I think that's the only game this season I've not seen them get a NOTD
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yeah, it was by far the best defensive game plan and execution against them all season.

and that game proved why Bama can start a true freshman QB and it not matter. they don't ask him to do that much, but he moves chains with his legs, and eventually, has to make 1 or 2 big plays/game.

he's a pedestrian thrower, but a man child as an athlete. they're good where it matters...line of scrimmage, and that's enough to overcome (if that's the right word here) a freshman qb.

it'll be interesting to see them play in the playoffs against a clemson type team that can match athletes on defense like LSU can, but is a little more dynamic offensively than they are.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
You make valid points, Versace. But you also make the assumption that Butch won't look to improve the program through significant change just because we got to Atlanta.

I don't make that assumption. I think the USCe game hit him just as hard as it did us fans or the players, and that he's already got some ideas for things he needs to change in the off-season. I think he's got those plans already on paper, and is refining them as he gets time, even while staying focused on going 1-0 for each of the next three weeks.

It's what I would do. Focus on the present, but keep tab of things you need to fix when the off-season comes around.

Trip to Atlanta between the Vandy game and whatever bowl we go to or not, I don't think he loses that impetus. I don't think it magically erases his observations and concerns from how we played much of this year, the cardiac kid slow starts, and the meltdowns vs Bama and USCe.

I think he's a bit brighter than that, to be lured entirely away by a single extra game.

He's not looking to lose in the future; he's looking to win. And he's certainly not lazy; dude works hella hard.

So the only question is, is he bright enough to figure out what changes to make and then implement them?

I suspect he is. Time will tell. Atlanta won't cost us that, win or lose.
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If it took him until the SC game to see something was wrong, then there's something very wrong that likely can't be fixed.

I will take the trip to Atlanta (honestly I don't think anyone wouldn't), but I won't like how we got there.
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
If it took him until the SC game to see something was wrong, then there's something very wrong that likely can't be fixed.

I will take the trip to Atlanta (honestly I don't think anyone wouldn't), but I won't like how we got there.
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We lost ours in the hardest part of our schedule which happened to be earlier than Florida's hardest part of their schedule when they might lose their games. If it happens, it doesn't mean we backed into the SECCG. I bet if the schedules were reversed both teams would be in about the same boat right now. If you win more games than the rest of the teams your side of the conference you get to go to the SECCG. It is as simple as that.
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
If it took him until the SC game to see something was wrong, then there's something very wrong that likely can't be fixed.
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Yankee, I think you just read something into my post that wasn't there.

No one said Butch wasn't thinking of improvements until the USCe game. No one said that at all....
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Yankee, I think you just read something into my post that wasn't there.

No one said Butch wasn't thinking of improvements until the USCe game. No one said that at all....
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That's what I got from it. And it didn't appear anything had changed until we played TTU.
 
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