Yes, Joan is the AD. I think that Joan, Pat and Holly will probably step away at the same time. Or, reasonably close time frame. Joan is a Hell of a woman and is in great demand as a motivational speaker and at leadership meetings/seminars locally and nationally. She, obviously, has many examples to drawn on from Pat and her teams. She will tell you that she works for Pat. Not meaning that Joan is a pushover in any way, but Pat gets what she needs. It's a great working relationship. The UTK women's Athletic Director position is not in any jeopardy of being eliminated or absorbed. Because of UTK's very diverse athletic programs, one person can not be on top of all of it even with the multitude of assistants available. I honestly believe that when Pat retires that she will continue ties with UTK, but will not want the AD position. She will be a great goodwill ambassador for the entire UTK complex-athletics and academia locally, nationally and internationally.