As The Butch Turns (Tim Banks)

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Good hire. But help me understand the irony...

Banks was Butch's DC at Central Michigan;
Banks was Butch's co DC at Cincinnati where he was a finalist for the Broyles award as the top assistant;
Butch comes to Tennessee and swears to hire the greatest staff ever, but doesn't bring this guy. He hires Jancek instead;
Jancek has his alleged co-ed issues and gets fired, so Butch goes to Penn State and hires Bob Shoop;
Penn State then hires this guy, who Butch left behind, to be the new DC there;
Butch and Shoop are fired at UT the next season...
And now, two coaches later, after allegedly interviewing Jancek, we're hiring this guy from Penn State. Holy cow.

Well, there's been a lot of water under the bridge, but maybe this guy shows up here with a chip on his shoulder to prove that he should have been included in the greatest staff in America at UT several years ago.
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Good hire. But help me understand the irony...

Banks was Butch's DC at Central Michigan;
Banks was Butch's co DC at Cincinnati where he was a finalist for the Broyles award as the top assistant;
Butch comes to Tennessee and swears to hire the greatest staff ever, but doesn't bring this guy. He hires Jancek instead;
Jancek has his alleged co-ed issues and gets fired, so Butch goes to Penn State and hires Bob Shoop;
Penn State then hires this guy, who Butch left behind, to be the new DC there;
Butch and Shoop are fired at UT the next season...
And now, two coaches later, after allegedly interviewing Jancek, we're hiring this guy from Penn State. Holy cow.

Well, there's been a lot of water under the bridge, but maybe this guy shows up here with a chip on his shoulder to prove that he should have been included in the greatest staff in America at UT several years ago.
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Good hire. But help me understand the irony...

Banks was Butch's DC at Central Michigan;
Banks was Butch's co DC at Cincinnati where he was a finalist for the Broyles award as the top assistant;
Butch comes to Tennessee and swears to hire the greatest staff ever, but doesn't bring this guy. He hires Jancek instead;
Jancek has his alleged co-ed issues and gets fired, so Butch goes to Penn State and hires Bob Shoop;
Penn State then hires this guy, who Butch left behind, to be the new DC there;
Butch and Shoop are fired at UT the next season...
And now, two coaches later, after allegedly interviewing Jancek, we're hiring this guy from Penn State. Holy cow.

Well, there's been a lot of water under the bridge, but maybe this guy shows up here with a chip on his shoulder to prove that he should have been included in the greatest staff in America at UT several years ago.
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You mean like the only proven P5 coach that was available and had beaten Saban in the past few years was passed over for a coach that followed his AD that we brought the brinks truck for yet he hires 1/2 his staff from UCF now to be replaced with proven SEC coaches??? Yep Go Vols!!! For the record I’m not saying CJH isn’t an upgrade and I hope we kick ass the next decade with him but damn this admin and booster group could destroy the hope and dreams of Santa’s elves I swear they could
 
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Banks left a year before Butch came to UT to go to Illinois as DC. Banks was not hired at Penn St to be DC, that was Brent Pry. Last time Banks was play caller as DC was 2014 Illinois.
 
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And then there is also 'As Franklin turns' to add some more fuel to the fire.

1. We hired DC Shoop (took him from Franklin)
2. We tried to hire Franklin as HC
3. Since Franklin turned us down (and DC Shoop from Penn State did not work out - to put it politely) it seemed perfectly logical we should next steal co-DC from Penn State (took him from Franklin again - hopefully to hurt him instead of doing him a favor)
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Good hire. But help me understand the irony...

Banks was Butch's DC at Central Michigan;
Banks was Butch's co DC at Cincinnati where he was a finalist for the Broyles award as the top assistant;
Butch comes to Tennessee and swears to hire the greatest staff ever, but doesn't bring this guy. He hires Jancek instead;
Jancek has his alleged co-ed issues and gets fired, so Butch goes to Penn State and hires Bob Shoop;
Penn State then hires this guy, who Butch left behind, to be the new DC there;
Butch and Shoop are fired at UT the next season...
And now, two coaches later, after allegedly interviewing Jancek, we're hiring this guy from Penn State. Holy cow.

Well, there's been a lot of water under the bridge, but maybe this guy shows up here with a chip on his shoulder to prove that he should have been included in the greatest staff in America at UT several years ago.
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I think banks being at central Michigan had more to do with him playing there than wanting to work with Butch. Maybe he just started to prove his mettle and that’s why Butch asked him to come aboard at his next stop
 
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TGVol said:
And then there is also 'As Franklin turns' to add some more fuel to the fire.

1. We hired DC Shoop (took him from Franklin)
2. We tried to hire Franklin as HC
3. Since Franklin turned us down (and DC Shoop from Penn State did not work out - to put it politely) it seemed perfectly logical we should next steal co-DC from Penn State (took him from Franklin again - hopefully to hurt him instead of doing him a favor)
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Grabbing Brent Pry would have hurt them tremendously and a HR hire.
 
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Good hire?

In 2012, Banks' defense at Illinois gave up 50+ points 3 times. One of those teams was La Tech. He was the primary play caller. Gave up an average of 197 yards rushing, 193 passing per game

2013, Banks' defense gave up more than 50 points twice and 60 points once. The least amount of points his defense allowed was 14. Gave up an average 238 yards rushing, 247 yards passing per game

2014, his defense gave up 50+ once, more than 30 points 9 times. Gave up an average of 239 rushing, 217 passing per game

2015, they brought in Mike Phair and demoted Banks to Co-DC. The defense only gave up 40 points one time and more than 30 twice. Gave up an average of 166 yards rushing, 183 yards passing per game

2016, he was fired along with the rest of the football staff

These numbers are terrible, even for the Big 10
 
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CountVolcula said:
Good hire?

In 2012, Banks' defense at Illinois gave up 50+ points 3 times. One of those teams was La Tech. He was the primary play caller. Gave up an average of 197 yards rushing, 193 passing per game

2013, Banks' defense gave up more than 50 points twice and 60 points once. The least amount of points his defense allowed was 14. Gave up an 238 yards rushing, 247 yards passing per game

2014, his defense gave up 50+ once, more than 30 points 9 times. Gave up an average of 239 rushing, 217 passing per game

2015, they brought in Mike Phair and demoted Banks to Co-DC. The defense only gave up 40 points one time and more than 30 twice. Gave up an average of 166 yards rushing, 183 yards passing per game

2016, he was fired along with the rest of the football staff

These numbers are terrible, even for the Big 10
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So in other words, we need to hire Mike Phair as Co- Def Coordinator?
 
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