Article: Football Concepts - Shoop Part 2 Quarters Coverage

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Good article. I've been basing out of quarters for 5 or 6 seasons now. It's a great run defense like they said in the article, because both safeties are involved in the run. This makes quarters the best run defense possible on early downs. It also means cover 2 is the worst run defense you can be in. Because the safeties have to play too deep (12-15 yards normally).

On passing downs though, I always go to a MOFC (middle of field closed) coverage. Normally cover 1 banjo (we call is Maroon). Banjo means one guy plays inside the Wr's and the other plays outside of them, then you run with whoever comes your way.

Most people consider quarters to be a better deep pass defense than cover 1, but that's not the case. The issue is that if a team sends 4 guys deep and you're playing quarters, then you're one on one with those four Wrs.

If you are in cover 1, and they send 4 people deep, you end up with 5 deep defenders on 4 wrs.
 
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Any defensive scheme should be tailored to the skill set of the personnel. CBJ & Co. learned a lot about situational football in the latter part of the season , the addition of CBS will make our 'D' even better.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Good article. I've been basing out of quarters for 5 or 6 seasons now. It's a great run defense like they said in the article, because both safeties are involved in the run. This makes quarters the best run defense possible on early downs. It also means cover 2 is the worst run defense you can be in. Because the safeties have to play too deep (12-15 yards normally).

On passing downs though, I always go to a MOFC (middle of field closed) coverage. Normally cover 1 banjo (we call is Maroon). Banjo means one guy plays inside the Wr's and the other plays outside of them, then you run with whoever comes your way.

Most people consider quarters to be a better deep pass defense than cover 1, but that's not the case. The issue is that if a team sends 4 guys deep and you're playing quarters, then you're one on one with those four Wrs.

If you are in cover 1, and they send 4 people deep, you end up with 5 deep defenders on 4 wrs.
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Hey Vol in the Bama game this year it appeared Tennessee played a lot of cover 2 or at least their safeties were playing deep to take away Bama's big play ability. But for the most part they were still able to contain Henry to some degree. Holding Alabama to 19 points was pretty good D. Any comment on what the Vols were playing the 3rd Saturday in October?
 
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1974Vol said:
Hey Vol in the Bama game this year it appeared Tennessee played a lot of cover 2 or at least their safeties were playing deep to take away Bama's big play ability. But for the most part they were still able to contain Henry to some degree. Holding Alabama to 19 points was pretty good D. Any comment on what the Vols were playing the 3rd Saturday in October?
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Let me see if I can find it on YouTube. It's hard sometime to break down coverage though due to the tight camera angles.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Good article. I've been basing out of quarters for 5 or 6 seasons now. It's a great run defense like they said in the article, because both safeties are involved in the run. This makes quarters the best run defense possible on early downs. It also means cover 2 is the worst run defense you can be in. Because the safeties have to play too deep (12-15 yards normally).

On passing downs though, I always go to a MOFC (middle of field closed) coverage. Normally cover 1 banjo (we call is Maroon). Banjo means one guy plays inside the Wr's and the other plays outside of them, then you run with whoever comes your way.

Most people consider quarters to be a better deep pass defense than cover 1, but that's not the case. The issue is that if a team sends 4 guys deep and you're playing quarters, then you're one on one with those four Wrs.

If you are in cover 1, and they send 4 people deep, you end up with 5 deep defenders on 4 wrs.
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Cover 4 is to keep everything in front of you and away from the sideline . Problem is it has a lot of weak spots short to deep in the middle of the field and it's easy to manipulate. Cover 1 leaves your guy's one on one so the corners better be able to handle it because a mistake means a TD.
 
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I Like Turtles said:
Did Jancek run a Quarters concept?
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From the article:

Quarters is a coverage the Vols ran often under John Jancek, but under Shoop it will be the team’s base coverage.
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So we're going from using it often under Jancek to using it as our base coverage scheme under Shoop.

Great benefit there: it will not be new to our players...more improvement through continuity!
 
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Vol865 said:
Cover 4 is to keep everything in front of you and away from the sideline . Problem is it has a lot of weak spots short to deep in the middle of the field and it's easy to manipulate. Cover 1 leaves your guy's one on one so the corners better be able to handle it because a mistake means a TD.
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You're still better off against the deep ball by using cover 1. Quarters is one on one against 4 verticals.
 
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If there are four verticals, the DBs near the direction of where the ball is thrown (usually a safety) have enough time to help the DB being thrown at.
 
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Burger said:
If there are four verticals, the DBs near the direction of where the ball is thrown (usually a safety) have enough time to help the DB being thrown at.
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But they wouldn't in man? What's the difference?
 
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Vol8188 said:
But they wouldn't in man? What's the difference?
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The safeties would have time to react because they are deeper back. The QB can't keep the ball forever unless they are facing the 2012 vols defense.

Honestly, I am guessing at this point. I'm not an expert on coverages.
 
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Burger said:
The safeties would have time to react because they are deeper back. The QB can't keep the ball forever unless they are facing the 2012 vols defense.

Honestly, I am guessing at this point. I'm not an expert on coverages.
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I've been teaching quarters for about 6 seasons now. We always prefer to be in cover 1 on passing downs.

You close off the middle of the field so you don't have to worry about the post route. Your safety is in position to help on either seam route. And you force the ball to be thrown to the outside.
 
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Burger said:
The safeties would have time to react because they are deeper back. The QB can't keep the ball forever unless they are facing the 2012 vols defense.

Honestly, I am guessing at this point. I'm not an expert on coverages.
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Quarters essentially becomes man against 4 verts. The safeties start flat-footed at about 10-12 yards off the L.O.S. and run with #2 receiver. They're not expected to help the corners on an outside throw in that case.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Good article. I've been basing out of quarters for 5 or 6 seasons now. It's a great run defense like they said in the article, because both safeties are involved in the run. This makes quarters the best run defense possible on early downs. It also means cover 2 is the worst run defense you can be in. Because the safeties have to play too deep (12-15 yards normally).

On passing downs though, I always go to a MOFC (middle of field closed) coverage. Normally cover 1 banjo (we call is Maroon). Banjo means one guy plays inside the Wr's and the other plays outside of them, then you run with whoever comes your way.

Most people consider quarters to be a better deep pass defense than cover 1, but that's not the case. The issue is that if a team sends 4 guys deep and you're playing quarters, then you're one on one with those four Wrs.

If you are in cover 1, and they send 4 people deep, you end up with 5 deep defenders on 4 wrs.
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We would usually flood to one side when passing on quarters and were successful. Cover four helps against the run and eliminates big plays on crossing routes. Would have been useful on the UF 4th and 14 play
 
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Quaint88 said:
Good read! I guess we'll be seeing a lot of Post/Dig combos this season.
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That was one of spurriers favorites. He called it mills. He'd run a dig with the slot to get your safeties attention and then throw a post behind it. He loved that against quarters.

Another common one is dagger (seam by the slot with a dig by the outside Wr). You push the safety deep and then throw the dig under him.
 
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