Arizona Election Audit

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whodeycin85 said:
Honestly is there any info to be released for this audit that would convince you??? If so specifically what would it be??
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Of course. If we are talking about the canvas it would need to be done in manner that would lend itself to extrapolating results. This one was clown car full mistakes.

As far as the audit... this audit if anything is found will have to be repeated by less biased and more experienced company. It cannot be conducted by the My Pillow guy and retain any legitimacy whatsoever.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Of course. If we are talking about the canvas it would need to be done in manner that would lend itself to extrapolating results. This one was clown car full mistakes.

As far as the audit... this audit if anything is found will have to be repeated by less biased and more experienced company. It cannot be conducted by the My Pillow guy and retain any legitimacy whatsoever.
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Do you think that an election being run by a company where the security officer (is obviouisly bias per his own public tweets and statements) has access to the voting machines and software should be audited??
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Do you think that an election being run by a company where the security officer (is obviouisly bias per his own public tweets and statements) has access to the voting machines and software should be audited??
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On the flip side of that, do you think a guy who has already unequivocally stated there was fraud should be doing the auditing?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Do you think that an election being run by a company where the security officer (is obviouisly bias per his own public tweets and statements) has access to the voting machines and software should be audited??
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The voting machines have been repeatedly audited. What has been discovered is that when Republican legislatures reaudit them is that they become compromised because they hire people that don't know wtf they are doing. We've tossed millions and millions of dollars worth of voting equipment because it was compromised by auditor who don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Of course. If we are talking about the canvas it would need to be done in manner that would lend itself to extrapolating results. This one was clown car full mistakes.

As far as the audit... this audit if anything is found will have to be repeated by less biased and more experienced company. It cannot be conducted by the My Pillow guy and retain any legitimacy whatsoever.
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Exactly what role did Mike Lindell play In this audit??
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The voting machines have been repeatedly audited. What has been discovered is that when Republican legislatures reaudit them is that they become compromised because they hire people that don't know wtf they are doing. We've tossed millions and millions of dollars worth of voting equipment because it was compromised by auditor who don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
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Do you know what companies ran those initial audits, whenever I Google it all about AZ
 
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clarksvol00 said:
On the flip side of that, do you think a guy who has already unequivocally stated there was fraud should be doing the auditing?
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Nope....but the Ninjas have very little do with the audit..they just becames the name harped on by MSM to discredit it...while supporting the opposite
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The voting machines have been repeatedly audited. What has been discovered is that when Republican legislatures reaudit them is that they become compromised because they hire people that don't know wtf they are doing. We've tossed millions and millions of dollars worth of voting equipment because it was compromised by auditor who don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
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Golly you really are clueless when it comes to our voting machines and the "audits" that are typically done. If they can not be connected to the internet (which is a lie that has been repeated over and over) how can they be compromised by these people that don't know what they are doing?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
On the flip side of that, do you think a guy who has already unequivocally stated there was fraud should be doing the auditing?
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I have no problem if the methodology is solid.
It’s kinda like the climate science guys. Who threw out the data that didn’t fit their agenda. Their study was destroyed on peer review. the numbers are what they are and if the methodology is bad then that will get it picked apart and discarded. The beliefs ahead of the study are irrelevant in my mind.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Oh are you getting offended that someone criticizes the network that is nothing but a mouthpiece for the democrat party? Let me guess. I bet you think Colbert, Kimmel, and The View are news as well.

CNN is complete garbage. And I'm not a Republican or democrat. I am smart enough to know when a news network is nothing but propaganda.
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I wasn't offended. There is nothing wrong with feeling this way... but you said that CNN was "much worse" than "The Gateway Pundit". That is either ignorance of what "The Gateway Pundit" is, or it is hyperbole to an extreme.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I have no problem if the methodology is solid.
It’s kinda like the climate science guys. Who threw out the data that didn’t fit their agenda. Their study was destroyed on peer review. the numbers are what they are and if the methodology is bad then that will get it picked apart and discarded. The beliefs ahead of the study are irrelevant in my mind.
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This is not a study. Doug Logan has an obvious conflict of interest here. Logan has close ties to Sidney Powell, who is being sued by Dominion Voting Systems for some of the same lies that he posted to her site in December. Of course, that matters. It is unprofessional.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I have no problem if the methodology is solid.
It’s kinda like the climate science guys. Who threw out the data that didn’t fit their agenda. Their study was destroyed on peer review. the numbers are what they are and if the methodology is bad then that will get it picked apart and discarded. The beliefs ahead of the study are irrelevant in my mind.
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We've talked about this and my concern seems to be playing out. I dont think a thorough review of the ninjas work can be conducted. The ninjas are subject to public records requests regarding their methods, data, and cimmunications. They have been ordered to comply with those requests, but so far they have refused. I don’t know what their report will have in it, but if they don't thoroughly document their findings and they refuse to turn over the docs, I have no reason to view them as credible. I feel this is like high school math. They need to show their work.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
We've talked about this and my concern seems to be playing out. I dont think a thorough review of the ninjas work can be conducted. The ninjas are subject to public records requests regarding their methods, data, and cimmunications. They have been ordered to comply with those requests, but so far they have refused. I don’t know what their report will have in it, but if they don't thoroughly document their findings and they refuse to turn over the docs, I have no reason to view them as credible. I feel this is like high school math. They need to show their work.
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Good post. Posters such as the one you replied to, have assumed transparency on the part of the "Cyber Ninjas", but they are doing everything they can to avoid having their methods and data placed under scrutiny.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is not a study. Doug Logan has an obvious conflict of interest here. Logan has close ties to Sidney Powell, who is being sued by Dominion Voting Systems for some of the same lies that he posted to her site in December. Of course, that matters. It is unprofessional.
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Study….audit…..doesn’t matter if the methodology is solid and verifiable.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
We've talked about this and my concern seems to be playing out. I dont think a thorough review of the ninjas work can be conducted. The ninjas are subject to public records requests regarding their methods, data, and cimmunications. They have been ordered to comply with those requests, but so far they have refused. I don’t know what their report will have in it, but if they don't thoroughly document their findings and they refuse to turn over the docs, I have no reason to view them as credible. I feel this is like high school math. They need to show their work.
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correct. Their motivation is irrelevant.
If their methodology is crap then the results will be rejected by everyone. So you’re in agreement with me.
Awesome.
And I’m not interested in them complying with any records request before they have concluded and presented. That only serves to muddy the waters.
You can’t verify what’s presented till it’s presented.
After presentation any refusal of transparency discredits the report.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I wasn't offended. There is nothing wrong with feeling this way... but you said that CNN was "much worse" than "The Gateway Pundit". That is either ignorance of what "The Gateway Pundit" is, or it is hyperbole to an extreme.
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It is much worse. The constant Russian Collusion and every other false narrative and stories CNN peddled over the past 5 years now. And let's not forget how they had creeps like Cuomo and Avenatti on their network and at one time acting as if they were heroic. I can provide many more examples if you'd like.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is not a study. Doug Logan has an obvious conflict of interest here. Logan has close ties to Sidney Powell, who is being sued by Dominion Voting Systems for some of the same lies that he posted to her site in December. Of course, that matters. It is unprofessional.
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What are these close ties to Sydney you speak of? Or did he just retweet something she Tweeted.
 
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DonjoVol said:
It is much worse. The constant Russian Collusion and every other false narrative and stories CNN peddled over the past 5 years now. And let's not forget how they had creeps like Cuomo and Avenatti on their network and at one time acting as if they were heroic. I can provide many more examples if you'd like.
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Once again... that is either ignorance or hyperbole.

1) Did CNN report that Seth Rich was murdered by Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC to keep him from announcing that the DNC had hacked their own accounts and framed Russia?

2) Did CNN run dozens of stories concerning "PizzaGate" - a narrative that Democrats such as Hillary Clinton and John Podesta were running a Satanic, child sex slave cabal and child porn ring from Comet Ping Pong in Washington D.C.?

3) Has CNN done stories which said that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were an "inside job" coordinated by the United States government to justify the subsequent invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq?

4) Did CNN try to legitimize Q Anon "prophecies", while running a story that Donald Trump would be reinstated as the President of the United States on March 4th?

5) Did CNN offer to pay a woman named Lorraine Parsons money in exchange for making allegations that Robert Mueller had raped her? This was the Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman fiasco, which led to Wohl being fired.

6) Did CNN run a story (with zero proof to support it) that Hunter Biden was caught trafficking in child pornography by the FBI, but Joe Biden covered it up?

The Gateway Pundit has done all 6 of these things.

I can provide many more examples if you'd like.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
correct. Their motivation is irrelevant.
If their methodology is crap then the results will be rejected by everyone. So you’re in agreement with me.
Awesome.
And I’m not interested in them complying with any records request before they have concluded and presented. That only serves to muddy the waters.
You can’t verify what’s presented till it’s presented.
After presentation any refusal of transparency discredits the report.
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This all day long. It's almost hilarious the way some people try to discredit something that they have not even seen. The Senate and the audit team has said multiple times that they aren't worried about getting a quick report out. They know this will be one of the most scrutinized reports ever and they are doing everything they possibly can to present it in a way that the truth is undeniable no matter what it reveals.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Once again... that is either ignorance or hyperbole.

1) Did CNN report that Seth Rich was murdered by Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC to keep him from announcing that the DNC had hacked their own accounts and framed Russia?

2) Did CNN run dozens of stories concerning "PizzaGate" - a narrative that Democrats such as Hillary Clinton and John Podesta were running a Satanic, child sex slave cabal and child porn ring from Comet Ping Pong in Washington D.C.?

3) Has CNN done stories which said that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were an "inside job" coordinated by the United States government to justify the subsequent invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq?

4) Did CNN try to legitimize Q Anon "prophecies", while running a story that Donald Trump would be reinstated as the President of the United States on March 4th?

5) Did CNN offer to pay a woman named Lorraine Parsons money in exchange for making allegations that Robert Mueller had raped her? This was the Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman fiasco, which led to Wohl being fired.

6) Did CNN run a story (with zero proof to support it) that Hunter Biden was caught trafficking in child pornography by the FBI, but Joe Biden covered it up?

The Gateway Pundit has done all 6 of these things.

I can provide many more examples if you'd like.
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Do you seriously want to go there.
 
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