Are you still confident in Josh “Beuhler..Buehler” Elander turning this around?

[vol66]

Well excuse me !!!!! Jerk. You missed the point. I wanted some perspective from those around here with more knowledge of our baseball program than me.
There is a lot more that goes into a successful roster than counting up class numbers.
Being young is about playing experience against upper level competition as much as it is class rank numbers.

I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers. I believe the question was regarding what CTV and CJE inherited. Your point is actually a good one and your response to mine was reasonable. I shoulda handled it differently.

If we have Seniors, that’s not great, if they come up in the program, that’s different to a degree but it means they didn’t get drafted high enough to leave as a junior.

That’s not the same thing as experience. A great many become eligible for the draft by the time their Sophomore years are over, rising juniors have leverage. It’s really about how many games you play early on and what a player(s) does with the opportunity. Some guys get drafted straight from HS and every team in the country is chasing them. They have leverage then. My personal belief is the hardest job in college sports is building a baseball roster. We can have a debate about NIL and the portal, I don’t think that helps much either.

Again, apologies.

GBO!!!

 

[TheBigOne10]

I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers. I believe the question was regarding what CTV and CJE inherited. Your point is actually a good one and your response to mine was reasonable. I shoulda handled it differently.

If we have Seniors, that’s not great, if they come up in the program, that’s different to a degree but it means they didn’t get drafted high enough to leave as a junior.

That’s not the same thing as experience. A great many become eligible for the draft by the time their Sophomore years are over, rising juniors have leverage. It’s really about how many games you play early on and what a player(s) does with the opportunity. Some guys get drafted straight from HS and every team in the country is chasing them. They have leverage then. My personal belief is the hardest job in college sports is building a baseball roster. We can have a debate about NIL and the portal, I don’t think that helps much either.

Again, apologies.

GBO!!!

You owe him NO APOLOGY, 66. Dude strolls in here unprovoked and is a complete ass to you and then double down in his response to me.

 

[vol66]

You owe him NO APOLOGY, 66. Dude strolls in here unprovoked and is a complete ass to you and then double down in his response to me.

No skin off my back. As I said, I coulda handled the question better.

GBO!!!

 

[WaywardVol]

I keep seeing y'all saying this but Tony's first team had a lot more talent than some of y'all remember.

Garrett Crochet
Garrett Stallings
Andre Lipcius
Luc Lipcius
Andrew Schultz
Zach Daniels
Evan Russell

I feel like this team would kill to have any of those guys.

Dave Serrano didn't recruit poorly, he just couldn't make west coast ball work in the SEC.

Crochet was signed by Tony, not Serrano.

 

[robcovol]

Very few people in any sport can follow a legend and have immediate success. I’m willling to give Elander this year to figure it out and go from there.

 

[Orange.]

Our mission is 3 more wins with 7 games to do it. Let’s get one of them today

 

[TheBigOne10]

Mission update: 2 more wins with 6 to do it. Let’s get another Friday.

 

[taylorvol]

Well excuse me !!!!! Jerk. You missed the point. I wanted some perspective from those around here with more knowledge of our baseball program than me.
There is a lot more that goes into a successful roster than counting up class numbers.
Being young is about playing experience against upper level competition as much as it is class rank numbers.

167th in country in Returning Production and 13th in SEC. Very inexperienced and youthful team.

 

[vol_smoothie]

I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers. I believe the question was regarding what CTV and CJE inherited. Your point is actually a good one and your response to mine was reasonable. I shoulda handled it differently.

If we have Seniors, that’s not great, if they come up in the program, that’s different to a degree but it means they didn’t get drafted high enough to leave as a junior.

That’s not the same thing as experience. A great many become eligible for the draft by the time their Sophomore years are over, rising juniors have leverage. It’s really about how many games you play early on and what a player(s) does with the opportunity. Some guys get drafted straight from HS and every team in the country is chasing them. They have leverage then. My personal belief is the hardest job in college sports is building a baseball roster. We can have a debate about NIL and the portal, I don’t think that helps much either.

Again, apologies.

GBO!!!

My sincere apology to you vol66. Your little comment just hit me wrong.
I am very curious about the answers to my question. I think it is important in making assessments on both Elander, the pitching coach and this team as a whole.
Thank you for your answer, maybe others can offer up their view on our relative youth.

 

[taylorvol]

I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers. I believe the question was regarding what CTV and CJE inherited. Your point is actually a good one and your response to mine was reasonable. I shoulda handled it differently.

If we have Seniors, that’s not great, if they come up in the program, that’s different to a degree but it means they didn’t get drafted high enough to leave as a junior.

That’s not the same thing as experience. A great many become eligible for the draft by the time their Sophomore years are over, rising juniors have leverage. It’s really about how many games you play early on and what a player(s) does with the opportunity. Some guys get drafted straight from HS and every team in the country is chasing them. They have leverage then. My personal belief is the hardest job in college sports is building a baseball roster. We can have a debate about NIL and the portal, I don’t think that helps much either.

Again, apologies.

GBO!!!

Very classy. We should all strive to emulate your thoughtful, kind response. Well done.

 

[taylorvol]

My sincere apology to you vol66. Your little comment just hit me wrong.
I am very curious about the answers to my question. I think it is important in making assessments on both Elander, the pitching coach and this team as a whole.
Thank you for your answer, maybe others can offer up their view on our relative youth.

This Week in BaseVols (TWIB)

I’m doing a weekly blog on the BaseVols. Please feel free to provide your feedback, comments, suggestions, or questions. GBO!

www.volnation.com

My TWIB blog offers up an opinion and some facts on this roster. Short answer, it’s not setup for success for post season play. The 2026 season was always a transitional year. Way too inexperienced and green. If E can 1) retain Clark, Brown, Grindlinger, Abernathy, Mack, and Appenzeller. 2) sign 5-7 top portal transfers including 2 starting pitchers, 3 relievers, a SS, a power bat, and a 2B. 3) maintain 2026 HS recruiting class 2027 team could make a run to Omaha.

 

[vol66]

My sincere apology to you vol66. Your little comment just hit me wrong.
I am very curious about the answers to my question. I think it is important in making assessments on both Elander, the pitching coach and this team as a whole.
Thank you for your answer, maybe others can offer up their view on our relative youth.

No need. We’re all pulling for the same team.

GBO!!!

 

[Orange.]

....The 2026 season was always a transitional year. Way too inexperienced and green...

Thanks, Tony.

So did Tony plan a transitional year? Or did he drop the ball, and the die was cast before our "transitional-year" team and picked-over staff was handed off to Elander? Interesting timing.

You don’t have to answer that. I just get sick of people (not you, of course) bashing Elander and our players.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

This Week in BaseVols (TWIB)

I’m doing a weekly blog on the BaseVols. Please feel free to provide your feedback, comments, suggestions, or questions. GBO!

www.volnation.com

My TWIB blog offers up an opinion and some facts on this roster. Short answer, it’s not setup for success for post season play. The 2026 season was always a transitional year. Way too inexperienced and green. If E can 1) retain Clark, Brown, Abernathy, Mack, and Appenzeller. 2) sign 5-7 top portal transfers including 2 starting pitchers, 3 relievers, a SS, a power bat, and a 2B. 3) maintain 2026 HS recruiting class 2027 team could make a run to Omaha.

Look at LSU. National Champ. Bad. National Champ. Horrible.

Vandy was the Number 1 overall seed last year. Yes I know they lost in the regional. This year they are bad.

There are always rebuilding years. This just happens to be one. Would have been under Vitello also

 

[a vol n tears]

There are 3 seniors on this team. I looked it up, you could’ve looked it up. Pretty glaring how inexperienced we are from top to bottom. And we have a lot of Freshman that haven’t seen the field yet..and may not, here.

Wright probably gone, Ford gone, Grimmer gone, Chapman gone. That’s almost half the starters and most of the top 5-6 hitters for most of the year. Elander rarely pinch hits so no SEC experience from the roster to help. I could see Abernathy leaving. I see tons of potential with him, but apparently he’s not good enough to play everyday because of the fantastic players already in the lineup.

 

[txbo]

This Week in BaseVols (TWIB)

I’m doing a weekly blog on the BaseVols. Please feel free to provide your feedback, comments, suggestions, or questions. GBO!

www.volnation.com

My TWIB blog offers up an opinion and some facts on this roster. Short answer, it’s not setup for success for post season play. The 2026 season was always a transitional year. Way too inexperienced and green. If E can 1) retain Clark, Brown, Abernathy, Mack, and Appenzeller. 2) sign 5-7 top portal transfers including 2 starting pitchers, 3 relievers, a SS, a power bat, and a 2B. 3) maintain 2026 HS recruiting class 2027 team could make a run to Omaha.

We have to get away from relying on rising sophomore portal recruits from lesser conferences. It's the same problem and strategy that Jay Johnson has at LSU. Experience matters in the SEC. They need time to adjust.

 

[taylorvol]

Thanks, Tony.

So did Tony plan a transitional year? Or did he drop the ball, and the die was cast before our "transitional-year" team and picked-over staff was handed off to Elander? Interesting timing.

You don’t have to answer that. I just get sick of people (not you, of course) bashing Elander and our players.

No, it certainly wasn’t planned but was a result of getting gutted by the Draft, a few portal misses, a few recruiting misses, and some delayed player development. Most NC teams crater the following year (see LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss) but UT made it to a Super and this year’s team should make it to a Regional. I think we were spoiled by the 21-24 teams.

 

[Orange.]

No, it certainly wasn’t planned but was a result of getting gutted by the Draft, a few portal misses, a few recruiting misses, and some delayed player development. Most NC teams crater the following year (see LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss) but UT made it to a Super and this year’s team should make it to a Regional. I think we were spoiled by the 21-24 teams.

I’m happy rooting for E and these players.

I remember well those days and the experienced and more knowledgeable fans telling us “This is something special. Don’t think every year will be like this.” I listened to that and didn’t find it hard to understand.

I was just suggesting that the whiners and catastrophizers about CJE give it a rest, and if they can’t manage that, to take it out on Tony — which even thinking about doing would short-circuit their whole spiel.

 

[QBUVOL2]

I think we have a roster turnover similar to last year
A top class coming in
Bullpen arms are in question
If Grindlinger can do well on D, make the move at C!
And I hope someone steps up next season and shows any sort of leadership qualities and fire like
we had the last 7 seasons

 

[a vol n tears]

I think we have a roster turnover similar to last year
A top class coming in
Bullpen arms are in question
If Grindlinger can do well on D, make the move at C!
And I hope someone steps up next season and shows any sort of leadership qualities and fire like
we had the last 7 seasons

I’m thinking half the starters from this year will be gone. Also gotta figure some transfers from top 11-12 players. Incoming recruits will be young and most will struggle. Best case Manny and Clark stay and return to form, Brown improves his swing and mental approach. Catcher / DH should be good. Hope Abernathy stays. He has talent and speed and can play or bat in multiple positions. I prefer Manny move to 2nd ( I don’t think he has the range to be an SEC shortstop) and recruit or pay for a top top top shortstop. Need plenty of pitching or I prefer a new pitching coach. The one thing about underperforming, is portal snatchers hopefully leave our returners alone.

 

[taylorvol]

Wright probably gone, Ford gone, Grimmer gone, Chapman gone. That’s almost half the starters and most of the top 5-6 hitters for most of the year. Elander rarely pinch hits so no SEC experience from the roster to help. I could see Abernathy leaving. I see tons of potential with him, but apparently he’s not good enough to play everyday because of the fantastic players already in the lineup.

Don’t forget as both Marin and Lawless likely gone via DraFt too.

 

[WallyBalls]

No, it certainly wasn’t planned but was a result of getting gutted by the Draft, a few portal misses, a few recruiting misses, and some delayed player development. Most NC teams crater the following year (see LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss) but UT made it to a Super and this year’s team should make it to a Regional. I think we were spoiled by the 21-24 teams.

I don't know what 10 levels beyond spoiled is, but that's what we were with that run.

Almost disconnected from reality.

 

[BreatheUT]

Very few people in any sport can follow a legend and have immediate success. I’m willling to give Elander this year to figure it out and go from there.

Not that Elander won't turn it around but can we stop with the coach in waiting crap. This is how a program goes from hottest in the nation to letting the air out of the balloon. I can't assess what's going on because I've not been able to watch this year but something isn't clicking.

 

[vol_smoothie]

Wright probably gone, Ford gone, Grimmer gone, Chapman gone. That’s almost half the starters and most of the top 5-6 hitters for most of the year. Elander rarely pinch hits so no SEC experience from the roster to help. I could see Abernathy leaving. I see tons of potential with him, but apparently he’s not good enough to play everyday because of the fantastic players already in the lineup.

We are losing all those guys ? Why ?

 

[JaBo1976]

Did I hear the announcers on TV last night say that no first year head coach has had 30 or more wins?