Are changes coming for Tennessees coaching staff?
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Offense was completely predictable at times and only in desperation did CMD open up the playbook. Dobbs didn't improve as a passer as much as he could have with a dedicated QB coach. I'd like to see Helfrich, Canada, or a solid OC come in here, move Debord to OL and let Shoop bring in some of his coaches on the defense.
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5 teams that did not meet expectations this season
Instead of being one of the biggest improvements, Tennessee experiences one of the biggest declines throughout the whole country from 2015. Flame away.
Go Vols!!
Instead of being one of the biggest improvements, Tennessee experiences one of the biggest declines throughout the whole country from 2015. Flame away.
Go Vols!!
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That was 2015, when Shoop withdrew his name.....he wasn't offered by LSU.....he chose to stay at Penn State.
Perhaps they would've made a run at him again this year if Aranda hadn't been open to coming down. Either way, Aranda went to LSU before Shoop came to Tennessee, which suggests they wanted him and not Bob....and LSU clearly got the better deal based on what we all witnessed this season.
Perhaps they would've made a run at him again this year if Aranda hadn't been open to coming down. Either way, Aranda went to LSU before Shoop came to Tennessee, which suggests they wanted him and not Bob....and LSU clearly got the better deal based on what we all witnessed this season.
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No Butchna, they didn't offer him. This article, among others, says he "turned down" LSU after an initial interview, but wasn't actually offered the job....
https://www.google.com/amp/www-stage.nola.com/articles/14913257/penn_states_bob_shoop_it_lsu_j.amp
Again, and more importantly, that was in 2015. When Aranda was an option a year later, he was their guy, not Shoop.
https://www.google.com/amp/www-stage.nola.com/articles/14913257/penn_states_bob_shoop_it_lsu_j.amp
Again, and more importantly, that was in 2015. When Aranda was an option a year later, he was their guy, not Shoop.
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Are you just trying not to understand it? It's pretty simple.
1. LSU interviewed Shoop in 2015, after his first year at PSU. After an initial interview, he declined to continue talking with LSU and returned to PSU. And in fact, LSU did not offer him the job. Instead, Shoop got a raise from PSU.
2. AFTER the 2015 season, Chavis took off and LSU hired Dave Aranda, not Bob Shoop, and they did it 1.5 weeks before Shoop came to Tennessee. Therefore, they wanted and got Aranda, not Shoop.
And ftr, at the time of and even before Shoop's hiring, I was absolutely thrilled. When LSU hired Aranda I recall being relieved and thinking "whatever, Shoop's the guy we want". So much for that thought.
1. LSU interviewed Shoop in 2015, after his first year at PSU. After an initial interview, he declined to continue talking with LSU and returned to PSU. And in fact, LSU did not offer him the job. Instead, Shoop got a raise from PSU.
2. AFTER the 2015 season, Chavis took off and LSU hired Dave Aranda, not Bob Shoop, and they did it 1.5 weeks before Shoop came to Tennessee. Therefore, they wanted and got Aranda, not Shoop.
And ftr, at the time of and even before Shoop's hiring, I was absolutely thrilled. When LSU hired Aranda I recall being relieved and thinking "whatever, Shoop's the guy we want". So much for that thought.
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Forgive me, but this really seems like semantics. If he turned them down in an interview, it stands to reason he was being sought. Just because he wasn't officially offered doesn't mean LSU didn't want him.
And here I do think that Aranda was LSU's main target - but at the time, both hires were universally praised in the media and on message boards. I fail to see the distinction you're trying to draw here.
Did LSU's D play much better than UT's? No question. Was it Shoop's fault? That is THE question for 2017 imo.
And here I do think that Aranda was LSU's main target - but at the time, both hires were universally praised in the media and on message boards. I fail to see the distinction you're trying to draw here.
Did LSU's D play much better than UT's? No question. Was it Shoop's fault? That is THE question for 2017 imo.
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Apologies, yes, Steele for a year until they decided to get serious......and then they hired Aranda, which was considered the best coordinator hire in the country.
My point still stands however. LSU could've gone after either after Steele left for Auburn and put their attention on Aranda, not Shoop, when both coordinators were looking to move to new schools. They interviewed Shoop a year earlier, not during the same period they interviewed and hired Aranda.
My point still stands however. LSU could've gone after either after Steele left for Auburn and put their attention on Aranda, not Shoop, when both coordinators were looking to move to new schools. They interviewed Shoop a year earlier, not during the same period they interviewed and hired Aranda.
I do now, I had forgotten, apologies, but it doesn't change anything. After Steele left, when both Aranda and Shoop were looking to change schools, LSU targeted and hired Aranda. In other words, after Steele left, they didn't interview and get turned down by Shoop, only to move on to Aranda as option #2....no, when they could go after both, it was Aranda they wanted and got. And they made the right decision.
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