Appearances can be deceiving

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1. Leach is out. Bev and Haslam didn't approve. It was Currie's hail mary.
2. Currie was handcuffed after Schiano blew up in his face. Dead man walking.
3. A deal was struck...we'll make Phil the AD...passify the masses.
4. Phil still can't offer a coach that Haslam doesn't approve. See Doeren.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
1. Leach is out. Bev and Haslam didn't approve. It was Currie's hail mary.
2. Currie was handcuffed after Schiano blew up in his face. Dead man walking.
3. A deal was struck...we'll make Phil the AD...passify the masses.
4. Phil still can't offer a coach that Haslam doesn't approve. See Doeren.
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You’ve mixed up a few “facts”. Fulmer wouldn’t take the job to be one man’s puppet. Fulmer was put there by Thornton/Anderson/Ergen to stop Haslam from running a one man show
 
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Fulmer hardly satisfies the masses. He’s a contentious figure. Bev has no clue to the history there

And you’re right, this doesn’t change anything for Haslam. People just want to believe
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
1. Leach is out. Bev and Haslam didn't approve. It was Currie's hail mary.
2. Currie was handcuffed after Schiano blew up in his face. Dead man walking.
3. A deal was struck...we'll make Phil the AD...passify the masses.
4. Phil still can't offer a coach that Haslam doesn't approve. See Doeren.
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Phil is not a Haslam puppet. There is a reason Currie was hired instead of him or Blackburn.

You, along with the rest of us witnessed a coup yesterday. Be greatful and enjoy the fact that folks that truly give a damn about what best for UT are in charge now.
 
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golfballs said:
Fulmer hardly satisfies the masses. He’s a contentious figure. Bev has no clue to the history there

And you’re right, this doesn’t change anything for Haslam. People just want to believe
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Watch and see golf.
 
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golfballs said:
Fulmer hardly satisfies the masses. He’s a contentious figure. Bev has no clue to the history there

And you’re right, this doesn’t change anything for Haslam. People just want to believe
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Reality will set in, eventually.


Shoulda chose Blackburn.
 
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The curse is broken. Fulmer taking the dais yesterday is the best thing to happen to UT football since he was fired. It WAS a coup.
 
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The animosity toward Fulmer baffles me. Fans loves the product he had and we all have held each coach to the standard he set in the 90's and early 2000's, but a good number of people think he sucks.

I will agree the game changes and he was falling behind. I agree a change was needed.

I think Fulmer has likely grown wiser with age. I believe he truly loves UT and will use his wisdom and influence as a national champion and hall of fame coach to lure a good football coach.

It may not be a fancy splash hire but I bet it will be a solid guy with UT ties who can recruit.

One thing Fulmer and Saban have in common is the ability to recruit guys that win. Sometimes unleashing great athletes with a killer mindset will beat a great coach.

In my opinion both the men are not elite coaches as much as they are/we're great recruiters.

If we can get a UT guy to lead the program, and two elite coordinators, and mix that with solid position coaches who recruit well we will be fine.

Programs cycle. We are due to improve.

I look for things to go well in terms of a coaching search.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
1. Leach is out. Bev and Haslam didn't approve. It was Currie's hail mary.
2. Currie was handcuffed after Schiano blew up in his face. Dead man walking.
3. A deal was struck...we'll make Phil the AD...passify the masses.
4. Phil still can't offer a coach that Haslam doesn't approve. See Doeren.
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Currie got his medicine for being the hand pick of the Haslams for AD. Ticked off the rest of the Department including Phil and his supporters as it should have.

Now the ship is being righted and Haslams influence should be kept in check.
 
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Normal ticket holders chaff at the cost of tickets plus donations to keep them. BIG BOOSTERS give big money for one of two reasons.... they either do it because they love the University of Tennessee, or they give to buy influence. Maybe sometimes it's a mixture of both.
 
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UT fans don't hate Fulmer. He brought us some of the greatest players and greatest moments in UT history. It's just that when his time was up we all recognized it but he wasn't quite ready to go. Phil will bust his ass to do what's right for UT. We're in a better place this morning than we were yesterday.
 
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If you think Fulmer is Haslam's puppet, go find the email from a booster(probably Thunder) that Clay Travis read during his podcast y-day. Fulmer and Thunder are tight. Not saying that Haslam's reign is dead, but they are fighting against it.
 
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WeAreTheRealUT. said:
If you think Fulmer is Haslam's puppet, go find the email from a booster(probably Thunder) that Clay Travis read during his podcast y-day. Fulmer and Thunder are tight. Not saying that Haslam's reign is dead, but they are fighting against it.
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And that is the real story ESPN should be following.
 
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Obsessed said:
Phil is not a Haslam puppet. There is a reason Currie was hired instead of him or Blackburn.

You, along with the rest of us witnessed a coup yesterday. Be greatful and enjoy the fact that folks that truly give a damn about what best for UT are in charge now.
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Well said. Don't know how others cannot see this.
 
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golfballs said:
Fulmer hardly satisfies the masses. He’s a contentious figure. Bev has no clue to the history there

And you’re right, this doesn’t change anything for Haslam. People just want to believe
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Q for you in the Politics OT thread.
 
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volfanbill said:
You’ve mixed up a few “facts”. Fulmer wouldn’t take the job to be one man’s puppet. Fulmer was put there by Thornton/Anderson/Ergen to stop Haslam from running a one man show
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Considering Ergen's camp wanted Leach and Phil nixed that, you need to find better facts.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
1. Leach is out. Bev and Haslam didn't approve. It was Currie's hail mary.
2. Currie was handcuffed after Schiano blew up in his face. Dead man walking.
3. A deal was struck...we'll make Phil the AD...passify the masses.
4. Phil still can't offer a coach that Haslam doesn't approve. See Doeren.
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The OP nailed it. Haslam regained control yesterday with the appointment of Clappy. After a short period of instability, we are officially the House of Haslam again. We have to fire the president and the chancellor to have any shot at making Tennessee great again. They were both handpicked by the slimes.

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So John Currie is installed as the next Tennessee athletic director.
He installs Phil Fulmer as a special adviser for community, athletics and university relations in an attempt to pave over old wounds.
Currie attempts to make amends with all the rival booster factions at Tennessee and reaches out to one of the biggest boosters at Tennessee seeking a meeting.
That booster responds with this message in September:
“John, I don’t need a thing. Like I told the chancellor, don’t mess with my tickets or my parking and I’m good. I hope Butch keeps winning and you don’t fire him. We don’t need another Kiffin or comparable replacement. Appointment of Phillip was great for the university and self serving for you. Good move for you. I’m not giving any more money to UT other than what I’m obligated to for my existing benefits.*
John, I’m a straight shooter. I don’t trust or like you or (Mike) Hamilton and that is not ever going to change, ever. I’ll never forgive you for firing Phillip. Worst ****ing decision that UT ever made. It scattered a horde of the nation’s best assistant coaches and their families across the country and in an unwanted divorce, it separated a National Championship and Hall of Fame coach from the university that he loved.
****ing stupid.*
You’re set in a good spot in your life and career and so am I. Leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone.”
So long as Butch Jones didn’t collapse, a battle seemed unlikely.
But then Butch Jones collapsed.

This is from Clay's piece y-day.
 
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