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Just saw where the Vols fall to 12, and Houston, who lost to an unranked Navy team is at 10.

Shouldn'twe be ahead of them?

We won against appy state and drop like a rock, we fight ourway back up to 9th, take the 8th ranked team to double OT, while Houston falls to a team like Navy, and still out ranks us.
 
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Just saw where the Vols fall to 12, and Houston, who lost to an unranked Navy team is at 10.

Shouldn'twe be ahead of them?

We won against appy state and drop like a rock, we fight ourway back up to 9th, take the 8th ranked team to double OT, while Houston falls to a team like Navy, and still out ranks us.

AP isn't out yet. Not sure where you're seeing this, but whatever you're reading it's just a "prediction" article.
 
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Regardless, we are too high at 12. I would be more worried where we will drop after the Bama game. That is setting up as a huge blowout. They are a terrible matchup for us this year.
 
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Just saw where the Vols fall to 12, and Houston, who lost to an unranked Navy team is at 10.

Shouldn'twe be ahead of them?

We won against appy state and drop like a rock, we fight ourway back up to 9th, take the 8th ranked team to double OT, while Houston falls to a team like Navy, and still out ranks us.

If we could have pulled the win out we would have been ranked 6th. Houston and aTm would have both lost and we would have jumped Louisville. Damn, this really sucks!!! Let's just hope our guys are healed up and ready to go come next weekend!!!
 
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Regardless, we are too high at 12. I would be more worried where we will drop after the Bama game. That is setting up as a huge blowout. They are a terrible matchup for us this year.

That's funny, because the analytics people are saying we match up with Bama better than we did Texas A&M.
 
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That's funny, because the analytics people are saying we match up with Bama better than we did Texas A&M.

That is why I was more worried about TAMU going into that game. I think we match up more favorably with Bama but after watching the TAMU game I don't doubt that we could have gone undefeated (I know... hindsight is 20/20). But we decided to shoot ourselves in the foot.

Saturday is for the opportunity to play for a chance to go to the playoffs. Beat Bama and we go to SECCG with 1 loss and play winner of Bama/TAMU for 1 of the 4 seats at the big table.
 
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That is why I was more worried about TAMU going into that game. I think we match up more favorably with Bama but after watching the TAMU game I don't doubt that we could have gone undefeated (I know... hindsight is 20/20). But we decided to shoot ourselves in the foot.

Saturday is for the opportunity to play for a chance to go to the playoffs. Beat Bama and we go to SECCG with 1 loss and play winner of Bama/TAMU for 1 of the 4 seats at the big table.

After what I saw, minus the turnovers, I like our chances against Bama. One thing is for certain, if we turn the ball over like we did against A&M, this game won't be close since Bama can capitalize on fumbles and interceptions resulting in 6 points on defense. PLus we can make it really loud in Neyland and we know our boys won't quit until the game is over.
 
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If we only go to 12 I'd be pleasantly surprised. We've been down a long time, takes a while and some consistency to get the benefit of the doubt and stay in the top 10.
 
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When we beat bama we will be #9 with a bullet. Win out and win SECG we will be no lower than #8.
 
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When we beat bama we will be #9 with a bullet. Win out and win SECG we will be no lower than #8.

if we beat bama we'll be top 6-7. especially if they turn around and beat A&M. if we go 11-1 and win the sec youre crazy if you dont think we're in the top 4.
 
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if we beat bama we'll be top 6-7. especially if they turn around and beat A&M. if we go 11-1 and win the sec youre crazy if you dont think we're in the top 4.

A one-loss SEC Champ is very definitely in the top 4. An 11-1 regular season would be also represent another two game improvement for the Tennessee program under Butch. A 12-1 SEC Champion is surely in the playoff. Whichever team that it happens to be.
 
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That's funny, because the analytics people are saying we match up with Bama better than we did Texas A&M.

ANALytics don't match up with the "wise guys."

aTm was a 7 point favorite at home
'bama is a 10 point favorite on the road

Hmmm....

GO BIG ORANGE!
 
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A one loss sec champ is not a lock. At this point UW, Clemson, and the Michigan-OSU winner would all be in front of a one loss SEC champ. It would then be a popularity contest of one loss teams to fill the last spot. Now, if we were to beat Bama and then win a rematch with TAMU or beat Bama a second time we would have as strong a case as anybody. Of course, as we've seen repeatedly thru the years, there is a long way to go for everyone.
 
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If we only go to 12 I'd be pleasantly surprised. We've been down a long time, takes a while and some consistency to get the benefit of the doubt and stay in the top 10.

While this may be true - wins over Florida, Georgia and the fact that it took 2OT over A&M should be proof enough.
 
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Regardless, we are too high at 12. I would be more worried where we will drop after the Bama game. That is setting up as a huge blowout. They are a terrible matchup for us this year.

Seriously name the teams that should be ahead of us. When you get down to 12 you start getting into other 1 loss and 2 loss teams.

Those of you who throw this out kill me because you do that without taking a look at who the teams are, who they have played and how they have performed.
 
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if we beat bama we'll be top 6-7. especially if they turn around and beat A&M. if we go 11-1 and win the sec youre crazy if you dont think we're in the top 4.

The SEC champ provided they have 1 loss or less will be in the playoffs. The only way it doesn't happen is if there are 4 other undefeated teams among the power 5 conferences who win their conference.
 
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The SEC champ provided they have 1 loss or less will be in the playoffs. The only way it doesn't happen is if there are 4 other undefeated teams among the power 5 conferences who win their conference.

I wouldn't count on that.

Imagine three undefeated conference champs: Ohio State, Clemson, Baylor. All 13-0.

Then you have a one-loss Washington, PAC champ, and a one-loss Michigan, darling of the media, versus a one-loss SEC champ ... all competing for that final spot.

If that SEC champ is Alabama, the defending national champion, I think you're right; Bama's in.

But if it's A&M or Tennessee, that's a tougher call.

Two reasons:

(1) Any Power 5 conference champion can get left out, given a 4-team playoff. Over time, every conference will get left out.

(2) This is a "down" year for the SEC. We're 5-5 against other P5 teams in out-of-conference games. The B10 (8-5), ACC (8-6) and PAC (7-6) all have better P5 OOC records.

Add points 1 and 2, and you get this point: the CFP Committee may decide this is the best year for "giving the SEC its turn" on the outside.

They can't do that if we're talking about the reigning national champ. They can if it's anyone else, though.

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I'm not saying that's how it would play out, only that's how it could play out. The SEC does not have a reserved seat in the playoffs.
 
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