Anyone surprised that Kiffin....

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FenianVol

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..didnt catch more heat about his presser comments about kids coming here to go to the NFL?

Considering Vinson got the boot for academic reasons I thought some would have criticized Kiffin for that initial comment. We all know the NFL bit is true but he should have still thrown out the educational aspect of playing at UT. Orgeron did mention education in his presser I believe.
 
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FenianVol said:
..didnt catch more heat about his presser comments about kids coming here to go to the NFL?

Considering Vinson got the boot for academic reasons I thought some would have criticized Kiffin for that initial comment. We all know the NFL true but he should have still thrown out the educational aspect of playing at UT. Orgeron did mention education in his presser I believe.
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What do you think 60-80% of all recruits think about going to school for?? Their doctrines in Sports Medicine?? No, they want the best place that is going to help them get prepared to go to the next level.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
What do you think 60-80% of all recruits think about going to school for?? Their doctrines in Sports Medicine?? No, they want the best place that is going to help them get prepared to go to the next level.
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Did you read the rest of the post? I said we all know its true but usually head coaches throw in the education thing to avoid a bad rep. Read all off the post in future son! :hi:
 
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And here I thought our recruits were picking UT because of our College of Arts & Sciences....:blink:
 
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FenianVol said:
Did you read the rest of the post? I said we all know its true but usually head coaches throw in the education thing to avoid a bad rep. Read all off the post in future son! :hi:
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Aight fool. :salute:

Why did you even start a thread if you answered your own question?? Seems to me like that's what you accomplished. I could be wrong though.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Aight fool. :salute:

Why did you even start a thread if you answered your own question?? Seems to me like that's what you accomplished. I could be wrong though.
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Wanted to hear what other peoples opinion were, thought that was the general concept of message boards....erm :ermm:
 
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FenianVol said:
Wanted to hear what other peoples opinion were, thought that was the general concept of message boards....erm :ermm:
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Here's an opinion.....

School first, football second. That's basically what Lane wants to instill in our players from what I have read and heard him say. If you can't do something as easy as going to class and learning on a daily basis, what makes him think you can learn to play a position on the football field??
 
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I'm upset that Kiff didn't mention the parties and hot a** women. That's why I went to college.
 
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I think the whole NFL thing was mainly for recruiting purposes. He is just saying what the kids want to hear. I am sure he understands the importance of academics.
 
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FenianVol said:
..didnt catch more heat about his presser comments about kids coming here to go to the NFL?

Considering Vinson got the boot for academic reasons I thought some would have criticized Kiffin for that initial comment. We all know the NFL bit is true but he should have still thrown out the educational aspect of playing at UT. Orgeron did mention education in his presser I believe.
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The educational aspect goes without saying. These are standards set by the NCAA. The kids know going in they have to live up to a certain set of standards, don't meet them and you have no one to blame but yourself. The university gave you the shot and you blew it.
 
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Frankly, I would prefer he brought the school and citizenship aspects into his conversation a bit more.

But I don't think it shows that he is not going to demand those things. More like his words revealing an intensity of focus.

Kiffin ain't Fulmer, who spoke about being good citizens ad nauseum.


And this is a good thing...
 
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FenianVol said:
..didnt catch more heat about his presser comments about kids coming here to go to the NFL?

Considering Vinson got the boot for academic reasons I thought some would have criticized Kiffin for that initial comment. We all know the NFL bit is true but he should have still thrown out the educational aspect of playing at UT. Orgeron did mention education in his presser I believe.
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UT ain't exactly an esteemed institute utilized for the pursuit of academic excellence (coming from a letterman). Bottom line, they wanted us to make the grade so we could stay eligible and continue to provide our service to the institution. If Vinson won't (more than likely can't) stay eligible, he'll be a victim to fall by the wayside.

The education portion you so bravely espouse is simply an honoring of the contract on the part of the athlete-student.
 
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Failure to honor the contract academically will result in termination. It's that simple.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
What do you think 60-80% of all recruits think about going to school for?? Their doctrines in Sports Medicine?? No, they want the best place that is going to help them get prepared to go to the next level.
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I would be willing to bet the percentage is even higher than 80%.
 
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beavbullvol said:
UT ain't exactly an esteemed institute utilized for the pursuit of academic excellence (coming from a letterman). Bottom line, they wanted us to make the grade so we could stay eligible and continue to provide our service to the institution. If Vinson won't (more than likely can't) stay eligible, he'll be a victim to fall by the wayside.

The education portion you so bravely espouse is simply an honoring of the contract on the part of the athlete-student.
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That's fine that you feel that way, but UT is actually a very good state university and excellent platform to several different professional paths. You get as much out of it as you put in. It is, in fact, an esteemed institute utilized for the pursuit of academic excellence for most its graduates. It is well thought of nationally as well.
 
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beavbullvol said:
UT ain't exactly an esteemed institute utilized for the pursuit of academic excellence (coming from a letterman). Bottom line, they wanted us to make the grade so we could stay eligible and continue to provide our service to the institution. If Vinson won't (more than likely can't) stay eligible, he'll be a victim to fall by the wayside.

The education portion you so bravely espouse is simply an honoring of the contract on the part of the athlete-student.
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Exactly!

UT's strength is its athletic department, and this is where UT gets its recognition.
 
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Rod Wilks doesn't have to go to class. He lays in bed in Gibbs Hall and reads his professor's minds and other students register to take his notes for him. In fact, Lane Kiffin has to go to the registrar in order to schedule lunch with Wilks.
 
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IPorange said:
That's fine that you feel that way, but UT is actually a very good state university and excellent platform to several different professional paths. You get as much out of it as you put in. It is, in fact, an esteemed institute utilized for the pursuit of academic excellence for most its graduates. It is well thought of nationally as well.
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I suppose your Koolaid avatar is an apt description of your point of view on UT academics. I transferred in to UT after a stint at a smaller DI ACADEMIC powerhouse. Let me assure you, you will get far more out of your education from a better, more highly respected academic institution. I was able to maintain a 2.9 over two years taking 82 units during my time on Rocky Top (yes, I did graduate).
No way a student athlete or athlete student could pull that off at a Vandy, Duke, or Northwestern. Bottom line, these kids we all talk about are coming here to play football. If they wise up and realize an education and potential diploma are theirs for the effort, all the better.

Now I'm off my former athlete soap box.
 
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beavbullvol said:
I suppose your Koolaid avatar is an apt description of your point of view on UT academics. I transferred in to UT after a stint at a smaller DI ACADEMIC powerhouse. Let me assure you, you will get far more out of your education from a better, more highly respected academic institution. I was able to maintain a 2.9 over two years taking 82 units during that stretch (yes, I did graduate).
No way a student athlete or athlete student could pull that off at a Vandy, Duke, or Northwestern. Bottom line, these kids we all talk about are coming here to play football. If they wise up and realize an education and potential diploma are theirs for the effort, all the better.

Now I'm off my former athlete soap box.
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Who is trying to compare UT to Vandy, Duke or Northwestern?


UT is not in their realm (and very few public institutions are), but UT is a good school. I would have used Texas or Michigan as highly esteemed public academic schools that are expected to compete athletically every year.
 
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DC Vol said:
Who is trying to compare UT to Vandy, Duke or Northwestern?


UT is not in their realm (and very few public institutions are), but UT is a good school. I would have used Texas or Michigan as highly esteemed public academic schools that are expected to compete athletically every year.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to introduce you to a new concept called an example. In it, you will find hyperbole, comparative language, and an embedded analogy. In said example, don't overreach or portend to be able to exact a finite meaning.

Hope that helps.
 
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beavbullvol said:
Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to introduce you to a new concept called an example. In it, you will find hyperbole, comparative language, and an embedded analogy. In said example, don't overreach or portend to be able to exact a finite meaning.

Hope that helps.
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With my smart a$$ reply I am indicating a fine education can be had on Rocky Top, but to ASSume said education is equal to more academically minded institutions is foolishness at best. I applaud the lettermen who have also attained the distinction of college graduate. That, is something no coach or game or individual can ever take away from you.

Oh and I apologize if I was a jerk.
 
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