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g8terh8ter_eric

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get the offensive recruits like we used to?? How many have we had in the past 4-6 years that have been moved to defense after having great senior years in HS on offense?? Maybe I am wrong on this, but I think it has something to do with the way we haven't landed the studs we used to.
 
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I think it's got to do with the fact that everybody in the SEC hordes their local recruits while we try and recruit nationally and we occasionally let the good players in Tennessee go elsewhere
 
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I think it has more to do with Georgia, Alabama, Florida, South Carolina and North Carolina all becoming harder to recruit in the past 5-7 years.
 
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I think it has more to do with Georgia, Alabama, Florida, South Carolina and North Carolina all becoming harder to recruit in the past 5-7 years.

I understand that, but it still begs the question on why do we move good-great offensive players to defense?? I don't see us moving defense to offense.
 
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I understand that, but it still begs the question on why do we move good-great offensive players to defense?? I don't see us moving defense to offense.

Could be because the best athletes in high school tend to be at the offensive skill positions.
 
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Could be because the best athletes in high school tend to be at the offensive skill positions.

So, I guess defensive players just suck at defense right?? Or is the fact that Chavis sucks as a recruiter?? John Chavis is Rodney Garner's bitch. Chavis owes Garner A LOT of credit. Hell, so does Fulmer.
 
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Elite coaches have locked down their borders. I also think Tennessee has gotten its good players lately its just Philip doesnt develop them as well as their rivals
 
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So, I guess defensive players just suck at defense right??
No . . .The better athletes are just on offense a lot of the time or playing both ways. There just isn't the need for a lot of shutdown Cornerbacks at the high school level.
 
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No . . .The better athletes are just on offense a lot of the time or playing both ways. There just isn't the need for a lot of shutdown Cornerbacks at the high school level.

I don't think that would be an accurate statement. :blink:
 
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I don't think that would be an accurate statement. :blink:

I'm just saying that a guy that had the skills to be a shutdown corner wouldn't necessarily be a specialist at the position. He'd also be playing WR, QB or Tailback and putting up gaudy numbers . . . a la Eric Berry.
 
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I'm just saying that a guy that had the skills to be a shutdown corner wouldn't necessarily be a specialist at the position. He'd also be playing WR, QB or Tailback and putting up gaudy numbers . . . a la Eric Berry.

Most HS players play both ways anyways, but I'm referring to the guys starting out on offense that end up on defense rather than the ones that come in strictly for defense.
 
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I'm just saying that a guy that had the skills to be a shutdown corner wouldn't necessarily be a specialist at the position. He'd also be playing WR, QB or Tailback and putting up gaudy numbers . . . a la Eric Berry.


Not to be a "mod-kisser", but your argument is very valid. The true athletes at the HS level tend to be on offense.

Having watched a top-notch Georgia HS football program (Camden County HS) for....9 years now, most of the athletes that end up in college are on the offensive side.

And most of them end up playing DB, DE, and LB.

JMO.

go vols.
 
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Oh...anyone know Champ Bailey?

I watched him play at Charlton County (GA).

A beast on both sides of the ball.

And a college, and NFL, defensive back.

go vols.
 
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Defensively, I think we get the same talent level at DB and LB, but there haven't been a lot of Haynesworth/Little types lately. We thrived off guys like that in the 90s.
 
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Defensively, I think we get the same talent level at DB and LB, but there haven't been a lot of Haynesworth/Little types lately. We thrived off guys like that in the 90s.

I would disagree with that to the point not at the talent, but what attitude that talent had. You can't instill the will of a player.
 
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I would disagree with that to the point not at the talent, but what attitude that talent had. You can't instill the will of a player.

. . . and the guy that had the biggest attitude of all - Al Wilson - was a very good high school RB from Milan.
 
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. . . and the guy that had the biggest attitude of all - Al Wilson - was a very good high school RB from Milan.

I know, he was recruited here at UT as a safety. Like I said in a previous post, I am not really referring to bring an offensive player in as a defensive recruit rather I am questioning why turn an offensive player you recruited for offense into a defensive player. Wilks, Abrahms-Ward, Vinson, and others that I can't think of at this point.
 
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In agree the better athletes in high school make their name on offense. However, some prefer the defensive side. And some top HS receivers simply don't have the hands to make it in college. So as an old coach I know used to say, "if they could catch they wouldn't be DB's"
 
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I know, he was recruited here at UT as a safety. Like I said in a previous post, I am not really referring to bring an offensive player in as a defensive recruit rather I am questioning why turn an offensive player you recruited for offense into a defensive player. Wilks, Abrahms-Ward, Vinson, and others that I can't think of at this point.

Vinson was moved because of need (and possibly because he wasn't effective on offense). Also, UT recruiting doesn't work the way you implied earlier. Chavis isn't just recruiting defensive guys. None of the coaches operate like that.
 
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Talent isnt the problem, the problem is development-coaching. Wasnt Crompton rated second in the country coming out of High School? I think Fulmer loves his players to the point that he pats them on the back and when he needs to put his foot up their a**.
 

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