An expansion thought.

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Bring in Houston and SMU for the Dallas and Houston markets. I know Texas A&M helps with the Houston market. But we could move Alabama and Auburn to the East. It would help Balance out the conference. Just some passenger seat thinking. What are your thoughts? Expansion will happen again eventually anyways.
 
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The more teams you have, the harder it is to win a title. Do we really want expansion?
 
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I think Texas and Oklahoma wind up in the PAC12. I don't see an ACC team jumping ship. I could see the AAC and Conf USA better teams fighting for a Power 5 spot. I see the BIG 12 breaking up.
 
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Looking at it from a standpoint of the two major cash sports, Houston might be an interesting addition. They have been rising in football, and for men's basketball, it is the home of Phi Slamma Jamma.

Had SMU not done all the things that got them the death penalty. Otherwise they have done little to make them more attractive than Memphis. And No, I don't want them.

But if expansion to 16 is going to happen, add new states to improve everyone's recruiting footprint. Most logical states are North Carolina and Virginia. And Charlottesville and Chapel Hill would not be a bad trip.
 
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allsgood21 said:
I like VT and Texas/Oklahoma if we expand again.

Move Missouri in the West and put Auburn in the East.
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Like what you are saying except for Texas. They always seem to want to run things. We don't need that in the SEC. We have enough of that now don't need more. That being said, we do seem to get things right and get along well for the most part.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
Bring in Houston and SMU for the Dallas and Houston markets. I know Texas A&M helps with the Houston market. But we could move Alabama and Auburn to the East. It would help Balance out the conference. Just some passenger seat thinking. What are your thoughts? Expansion will happen again eventually anyways.
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I don't guess on the mix of schools / conferences but I'm in the camp that does believe we are headed to four super conferences that will lead to a playoff format to excite fan bases.

If your school had a good chance to win a division and play in a playoff every year, you would really be excited.

4 conferences of 16 or 20 teams each.

each conferences has a split into 4 divisions.

each division winner enters a playoff to determine the conference champions.

the conference champions go into the national playoff to determine the national championship.

TV would love it and pay out billions
 
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ptcarter said:
The more teams you have, the harder it is to win a title. Do we really want expansion?
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To be honest, No. However, if the OP is right, the SEC is a stronger financial model than the other power 5 conferences. Sustaining that means having strong member institutes with fans who travel well.

Whether we get it or not is beyond our control, but if it happens, we should hope it is someone worth competing with.
 
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TNnative said:
To be honest, No. However, if the OP is right, the SEC is a stronger financial model than the other power 5 conferences. Sustaining that means having strong member institutes with fans who travel well.

Whether we get it or not is beyond our control, but if it happens, we should hope it is someone worth competing with.
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I could see the BIG12 going bye bye and us getting Texas, TCU, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. That would make the SEC untouchable.
 
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So four Super Conderences. Each with 2 divisions. Each divisional winner plays. Making it an 8 team playoff??? Would be very exciting.
 
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Any new additions will come from the Big XII collapsing. ACC is set through 2035.

Bring me the Oklahoma schools.
 
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Add Texas and OU to the sec west and move alabama and auburn to the east---the SEC revenues will explode!
 
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For example...

Alpha

Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Tennessee
Georgia

Beta

South Carolina
Florida
Auburn
Arkansas

Charlie

Alabama
Texas A&M
Mississippi State
Ole Miss

Delta

LSU
Missouri
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

Directions don't make sense, insert your own division names.

Some school is hosed from a travel aspect. In this case, Arkansas.I'd also take Kansas, but this isn't a basketball conference.

Eight conference games. Perserve rivals. Cycle through as quickly as possible with home and home series.
 
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Add 4 teams, OU, OKEE ST, VT, FSU.

Move MIZZO to the west, Auburn to the east.

WEST EAST
ALA UT
OLE MISS UGA
LSU FL
MISS ST FSU
MIZZO KY
OSU VT
OKST AUBURN
ARK USC jr
aTm VANDY

RULES: each division plays 8 of 9 teams in the division every year (some can be permanent the rest rotate), 1 east west crossover (PERMANENT)

All teams must play a FCS team for Homecomming

Here is the best part; 4 team SEC Championship Playoff. Top 2 in each division, 1 plays 2, 2 plays 1, east to west, then Championship, record to be determined by divisional match ups ONLY!

GO VOLS!
 
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ptcarter said:
The more teams you have, the harder it is to win a title. Do we really want expansion?
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I think the future shakedown will see the Power 5 go to a Power 4 conferences at 16 teams per conference. That parlays to 4 four team divisions and a 4 team SECCG. If all 4 conferences go to this set up, then you have an easy pick for the CFP system.

For this to happen, one conference (probably Big12 but maybe ACC) will get gutted to fill out the other conferences.

I can see the SEC going after: Oklahoma and another team from: (Kansas St, Clemson, Baylor, OK State, Virginia, VT, West Virginia, Maryland, NC, NCST) with bold teams being best for TV markets/revenue and the fact that we already have an SEC team in Texas.
 
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Oklahoma State and West Virginia would be my choice of the Big 12 schools out there. One for the east, one for the west.
 
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jkleno said:
FSU would bolt ACC in a second to join SEC.
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You could count Power 5 teams on your hand that wouldn't bolt for the SEC. Even Teams like Mich, OSU, Texas (with Longhorn Network), and Stanford would have to think twice before turning down an offer to join SEC. Fear of losing games, travel and rivalries would be tradeoff factors.

FSU and OK would go as would most ACC teams.


SEC Commissioner bragged a few years ago about having a dozen teams on speed dial who wanted to join the conference.
 
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Keep an eye on what Oklahoma does...they are the key to the breakup of the Big 12.
I can see them wanting "Texas" money (thanks longhorn network) and courting the SEC.
If that happens, the SEC will add another to balance out...likely an East team that is either a good tv market or travels well...

Say hello to Lousville...fans travel EXTREMELY well, tv market isn't bad, both major sports are nationally relevant about every year, they are getting ready to make a major stadium expansion, and my Vols would play every year within a two hour drive...hahaha
 
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