Amateur Hour Continues

[85SugarVol]

To bad Japan didn't have a general with such courage back in '41. Could have saved millions of lives.

Random - but I was watching one of those WW2 in color series last night. FDR was addressing the nation and talking about our progress in the Pacific against “the Japs”.

Kinda crazy to see/hear that on National tv.

But I would imagine that if any Japanese officers acted that way in ‘41 they would have been dealt with swiftly, and brutally.

Anyways. Carry on.

 

[luthervol]

Random - but I was watching one of those WW2 in color series last night. FDR was addressing the nation and talking about our progress in the Pacific against “the Japs”.

Kinda crazy to see/hear that on National tv.

But I would imagine that if any Japanese officers acted that way in ‘41 they would have been dealt with swiftly, and brutally.

Anyways. Carry on.

No doubt he would have been executed immediately as a traitor. But he would have been viewed as a hero in the US and most of the world (and even among some of the more enlightened in Japan) . He could have potentially saved millions of lives by doing what was right instead of following a "legal" order through the chain of command.

That was the point I was making.

 

[85SugarVol]

NO! The message should be to always follow the COC. Nobody in the military is bound by illegal orders and if given one going to the next superior is still within the COC.

I agree.

Out of curiosity- If the Sec of Def is given what he believes to be an illegal order by the President, who does he go to? Congress?

 

[luthervol]

I agree.

Out of curiosity- If the Sec of Def is given what he believes to be an illegal order by the President, who does he go to? Congress?

Hogg sees the absolute necessity of and emphatically demands the strict adherence to a hierarchical order in a multi-level bureaucracy in large organizations, especially ones governmental in nature.

 

[hog88]

I agree.

Out of curiosity- If the Sec of Def is given what he believes to be an illegal order by the President, who does he go to? Congress?

Good question. Maybe he calls a meeting of the whole cabinet or just refuses the order?

 

[hog88]

Hogg sees the absolute necessity of and emphatically demands the strict adherence to a hierarchical order in a multi-level bureaucracy in large organizations, especially ones governmental in nature.

You're about 6 eggs short of a dozen.

When it comes to military action I believe in strictly following the COC, there are built in avenues for anyone in the military or it's civilian masters to protest what they might consider illegal orders. The military cannot effectively function without a strict adherence to the COC.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[85SugarVol]

 

[85SugarVol]

Oh good, nothing to worry about down there.

 

[luthervol]

You're about 6 eggs short of a dozen.

When it comes to military action I believe in strictly following the COC, there are built in avenues for anyone in the military or it's civilian masters to protest what they might consider illegal orders. The military cannot effectively function without a strict adherence to the COC.

Oh, I understand the need for rules, regulations, chains of command and such. It's the only way societal groups can function. Often times it's less about being an individual and more about being a member of the particular society.

 

[GVF]

You're about 6 eggs short of a dozen.

When it comes to military action I believe in strictly following the COC, there are built in avenues for anyone in the military or it's civilian masters to protest what they might consider illegal orders. The military cannot effectively function without a strict adherence to the COC.

Respectfully disagree. He has all 12 eggs. Just no carton to put them in.

 

[BreatheUT]

Fox News Poll: Voters think the country is less united under Biden
By a 54-37 percent margin, Americans think the country is less united under Biden rather than more so

President Biden used the word "unity" eight times in his inauguration speech, but voters say the country is heading in the opposite direction on his watch.

By a 54-37 percent margin, they think the country is less united under Biden rather than more so.

Fox News Poll: Voters think the country is less united under Biden

 

[Orangeburst]

Fox News Poll: Voters think the country is less united under Biden
By a 54-37 percent margin, Americans think the country is less united under Biden rather than more so

President Biden used the word "unity" eight times in his inauguration speech, but voters say the country is heading in the opposite direction on his watch.

By a 54-37 percent margin, they think the country is less united under Biden rather than more so.

Fox News Poll: Voters think the country is less united under Biden

Lol

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[landscapingvol]

Congrats on your transformation into Luther, I know it was a difficult transition for you but one we all expected!!

 

[Velo Vol]

Congrats on your transformation into Luther

Thanks!

 

[BreatheUT]

The Boston Herald

Battenfeld: Bumbling Biden faces severe credibility test at United Nations


President Biden, already staggering from failures at home, faces a severe credibility test internationally as he gives his maiden speech before the United Nations General Assembly.

Whether it’s a drone strike that killed innocent civilians in Afghanistan, a submarine deal that the French are upset at being cut out of, or a plan to push COVID booster shots that the World Health Organization is protesting, the bumbling Biden administration is on the defensive around the world.

Tuesday’s U.N. address on a world stage could be a pivotal moment for the 78-year-old president, whose approval ratings domestically are tanking as well.
Bumbling Biden faces severe credibility test at United Nations

 

[Velo Vol]

Odds this makes it to discovery?

 

[Carl Pickens]

To bad Japan didn't have a general with such courage back in '41. Could have saved millions of lives.

Yeah…. That’s not really how war works

 

[Carl Pickens]

It's good when an insane person gives an insane order.

I’m sure Trump was planning to nuke the chicoms …. You need to discovery reality

 

[Carl Pickens]

I can think of no greater complement than to be compared to Jimmy Carter.

That’s because thinking isn’t your strong suit

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Fox News Poll: Voters think the country is less united under Biden
By a 54-37 percent margin, Americans think the country is less united under Biden rather than more so

President Biden used the word "unity" eight times in his inauguration speech, but voters say the country is heading in the opposite direction on his watch.

By a 54-37 percent margin, they think the country is less united under Biden rather than more so.

Fox News Poll: Voters think the country is less united under Biden

 

[luthervol]

Yeah…. That’s not really how war works

Then what was the big deal with Milley?

 

[landscapingvol]

Then what was the big deal with Milley?

Luther you will never understand it because it benefitted the Democrats, that's your only concern

 

[luthervol]

Luther you will never understand it because it benefitted the Democrats, that's your only concern

It didn't benefit democrats, it just clarified what we were dealing with in Trump.