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Dale Miller, 2023 Cornerback - Rivals.com

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Tennessee became the 10th reported offer for Miller, who said his offer list previously included Auburn, Southern California, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Louisville, Boston College and UAB. (Arizona State had offered as well.) Miller, who was timed at 4.68 in the 40 at Tennessee's camp, said he's been a busy traveler this month with stops at Georgia, Clemson, Alabama,

Mississippi State and Tennessee, and he was planning to trek down to Florida on Friday and Miami on Saturday.

Miller liked what he saw from his first stop on Tennessee's campus.

“I liked everything,” he said. “I liked the facility. I liked how the coaches vibe with me, our chemistry, how we talked to each other.”

The connection with Tennessee's new coaching staff included position drills with defensive coordinator Tim Banks and the lengthy post-camp conversation with Martinez.

“Coach was just telling me how he likes my personality,” Miller said. “He was telling me the personalities that he’s coached, he likes how I compete and everything. Then he was telling me how he bonds with his players.”

Miller said the Vols like how he moves, particularly his quick hips and fast feet, in addition to his competitiveness. Martinez also discussed with Miller his ability to potentially play multiple positions in the secondary in Tennessee's defense. The Vols also like how Miller can play both off coverage and man up against wide receivers.

“He said I’m the type of player that he could put anywhere in the secondary,” Miller said.

“He said he liked me at corner,” he added, “but he was saying as I develop, I’m the type of player that could play slot, guard the fastest man in the slot. Or I could go to safety and make a play on the ball. I could stay at corner, when we blitzing a lot, they bring the outside player.”

Miller remains early in his recruiting process the summer before his junior year, but the Tennessee offer made the Vols one of his early favorites.
“I know Tennessee’s one of them right now,” he said, “but I’m still waiting it out.”
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Ok . . . a 4.68 40 will "guard the fastest man in the slot . . . " . . . is 4.68 right? Surely not!! His offer list would indicate that he is faster than 4.68 and the "stars" do as well . . .

If the time listed is correct, as Coach Lee Corso would say, "NOT SO FAST", figuratively and literally.

GBO
 
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BigDave said:
Ok . . . a 4.68 40 will "guard the fastest man in the slot . . . " . . . is 4.68 right? Surely not!! His offer list would indicate that he is faster than 4.68 and the "stars" do as well . . .

If the time listed is correct, as Coach Lee Corso would say, "NOT SO FAST", figuratively and literally.

GBO
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but his hips are FAST
 
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LittleVol said:
That has to be a typo...
4.68 is slow as crap.
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Actually, for a rising junior in HS, that is fairly fast. They are using laser times, not the inflated, fake numbers we see in profiles.

Example - former Florida CB and 2nd round draft pick Jalen Tabor ran a 4.62 at the NFL combine.

With another two years in HS to grow, mature, and improve technique, I'd guess his speed will be fine at the college level
 
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Jean-Claude van Manning said:
Actually, for a rising junior in HS, that is fairly fast. They are using laser times, not the inflated, fake numbers we see in profiles.

Example - former Florida CB and 2nd round draft pick Jalen Tabor ran a 4.62 at the NFL combine.

With another two years in HS to grow, mature, and improve technique, I'd guess his speed will be fine at the college level
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Does anyone have access to the times he has performed at other camps? I am not challenging you or questioning your opinion, I really would like to know.

GBO
 
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de1conley said:
4.68 is not slow but very average. He could be a cover 3 guy or zone Cb who is very smart and instinctive.
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there's dlineman that can run that now.

4.55-4.6 is kind of the minimum reaction time you want from a DB.
Bryce Thompson is kind o what you're talking about, and he was even faster than that.
 
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Jean-Claude van Manning said:
Actually, for a rising junior in HS, that is fairly fast. They are using laser times, not the inflated, fake numbers we see in profiles.

Example - former Florida CB and 2nd round draft pick Jalen Tabor ran a 4.62 at the NFL combine.

With another two years in HS to grow, mature, and improve technique, I'd guess his speed will be fine at the college level
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Tabor is slow. Jennings showed you that. Tabor had good athletic ability and other intangibles.
Im just talking about his speed or lack there of. I didn't say he wasnt a good player.

After sophmore year is when a lot of kids get a speed spurt. kind of like a growth spurt.

So maybe he hasn't hit that yet.

You saw what 4.7 Marsalis Teague and 4.8 Prentiss Wagner did for our defense.
Slow is slow!
 
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LittleVol said:
Tabor is slow. Jennings showed you that. Tabor had good athletic ability and other intangibles.
Im just talking about his speed or lack there of. I didn't say he wasnt a good player.

After sophmore year is when a lot of kids get a speed spurt. kind of like a growth spurt.

So maybe he hasn't hit that yet.

You saw what 4.7 Marsalis Teague and 4.8 Prentiss Wagner did for our defense.
Slow is slow!
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All fair/good points and I agree.

And I definitely want to echo what you said about a lot of kids improving after their sophomore year - what I have seen from coaching HS track is that most kids get a lot faster their last two years.
 
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LittleVol said:
there's dlineman that can run that now.

4.55-4.6 is kind of the minimum reaction time you want from a DB.
Bryce Thompson is kind o what you're talking about, and he was even faster than that.
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And there's still a difference in a Db and a DL who can both run a 4.6 40. Hell whether you realize it or not we've not had many burners at Db at all many hv ran horrible times thus why the vast majority haven't been drafted. Also contrary to what you believe guts run 4.6 on a regular and play on Sundays. Too many fans get caught up in 40 times when there are very few 40 times that translate to on field speed because the 2 differ in a major way. 40 is about knowing how to run and field speed is about instincts and ability. For instance take Jerry Rice who ran a 4.7 and 4.8 and is the greatest WR of all time and with records that will never be broken but he had amazing field speed with the ability to run away from Dbs.
 
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de1conley said:
And there's still a difference in a Db and a DL who can both run a 4.6 40. Hell whether you realize it or not we've not had many burners at Db at all many hv ran horrible times thus why the vast majority haven't been drafted. Also contrary to what you believe guts run 4.6 on a regular and play on Sundays. Too many fans get caught up in 40 times when there are very few 40 times that translate to on field speed because the 2 differ in a major way. 40 is about knowing how to run and field speed is about instincts and ability. For instance take Jerry Rice who ran a 4.7 and 4.8 and is the greatest WR of all time and with records that will never be broken but he had amazing field speed with the ability to run away from Dbs.
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Jerry was also 6'3 with outstanding running endurance and hands that could catch literal bricks ,and got faster after after his 40.

Also, there's a difference in a 215 lb guy running a 4.68 vs a 160 lb guy....running 4.68. I was running 4.63 at 220 lbs. This guy is still young, but I see so many kids now able to legit run 4.4s at 15 years old. He needs to improve he's speed no question about it. It is what it

Is he NPA?
 
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de1conley said:
And there's still a difference in a Db and a DL who can both run a 4.6 40. Hell whether you realize it or not we've not had many burners at Db at all many hv ran horrible times thus why the vast majority haven't been drafted. Also contrary to what you believe guts run 4.6 on a regular and play on Sundays. Too many fans get caught up in 40 times when there are very few 40 times that translate to on field speed because the 2 differ in a major way. 40 is about knowing how to run and field speed is about instincts and ability. For instance take Jerry Rice who ran a 4.7 and 4.8 and is the greatest WR of all time and with records that will never be broken but he had amazing field speed with the ability to run away from Dbs.
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TO didn’t have a great 40 early in his career, but I saw him burn Deangelo Hall in person
 
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LittleVol said:
Jerry was also 6'3 with outstanding running endurance and hands that could catch literal bricks ,and got faster after after his 40.

Also, there's a difference in a 215 lb guy running a 4.68 vs a 160 lb guy....running 4.68. I was running 4.63 at 220 lbs. This guy is still young, but I see so many kids now able to legit run 4.4s at 15 years old. He needs to improve he's speed no question about it. It is what it

Is he NPA?
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No he isn't NPA but just like the 40 time doesn't matter neither does that. Again 40 times don't matter in football like fans believe. The most over rated thing listed on a prospect is 40 time. Very seldom in the game are you running 40 yds straight. Check the last combine and look at the 40 times. The biggest flaw in running a bad 40 is technique and/or forms.
 
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de1conley said:
No he isn't NPA but just like the 40 time doesn't matter neither does that. Again 40 times don't matter in football like fans believe. The most over rated thing listed on a prospect is 40 time. Very seldom in the game are you running 40 yds straight.
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Forty times do indicate if the person can run fast. It does matter. However, it is not the only indicator if a person can play fast on the football field. I will take a 4.3 football player over a 4.5 football player almost every time.
 
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de1conley said:
No he isn't NPA but just like the 40 time doesn't matter neither does that. Again 40 times don't matter in football like fans believe. The most over rated thing listed on a prospect is 40 time. Very seldom in the game are you running 40 yds straight.
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It was just a question. Don't need or appreciate your damn snarkiness.

You're wrong about it mattering. If it didn't matter kids wouldn't train for 6 weeks just for speed training to run the 40. Because the 40 is centralized at the NFL Combine. BECAUSE that is an indicator of reaction time in football! NFL scouts and coaches agree.

I asked you if that kid Horton was going to run track. It looks like he didn't. And honestly it's damn stupid if the rest of you there feel that doesn't matter.
4.68 is slow for a DB and it DOES matter LIKE i think it does.
You can argue about it till you're blue in the face. You're still wrong about it...
 
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LittleVol said:
By the time he played D Hall he was running a faster 40...
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As far as we know. They don’t get timed again unless it’s some 2nd chance combine like he participated in a few years ago. Simeon Rice never ran anything close to 4.5 in pads…he didn’t have to.
 
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LittleVol said:
By the time he played D Hall he was running a faster 40...
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You don't know that to be true. Again 40 doesn't matter on a field. Hell he could've blown by D. Hall with a dbl move when D. Hall bit on a pump fake. Also maybe I forgot to say this 4.3- 4.4 is elite speed 4.5 - 4.6 is good speed so I'm not sure where you get that 4.6 is slow. Then the real true factor is the surface you're running on too.
 
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