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billbattle

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I think Phil handled the whole situation very badly. After reading all of the sympathy posts and threads, I know most people on here will bash me, but I think Phil created the potential for unnecessary animosity for all concerned. The players are all up in arms, recruits are probably wondering what kind of school is this, the media is eating it up, and coaching prospects are apprehensive. I think Fulmer thinks he is bigger than the program and has no perception of failure on his part in any way. He should have been a bigger man, took one for the good of the program and simply stated he was looking forward to a fruitful retirement. Instead, he hung the AD up to dry, created havoc and dissension with the players and played to the base emotions of the fans and supporters. The animosity on this board is proof positive of that fact. Good luck to him, but I have a more negative opinion of his dedication to the program than I did a few days ago.

Fire away fellow Vol fanatics, but always remember the program is bigger than any one individual and hopefully always will be.
 
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billbattle said:
I think Phil handled the whole situation very badly. After reading all of the sympathy posts and threads, I know most people on here will bash me, but I think Phil created the potential for unnecessary animosity for all concerned. The players are all up in arms, recruits are probably wondering what kind of school is this, the media is eating it up, and coaching prospects are apprehensive. I think Fulmer thinks he is bigger than the program and has no perception of failure on his part in any way. He should have been a bigger man, took one for the good of the program and simply stated he was looking forward to a fruitful retirement. Instead, he hung the AD up to dry, created havoc and dissension with the players and played to the base emotions of the fans and supporters. The animosity on this board is proof positive of that fact. Good luck to him, but I have a more negative opinion of his dedication to the program than I did a few days ago.

Fire away fellow Vol fanatics, but always remember the program is bigger than any one individual and hopefully always will be.
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Bingo!!! My sentiments EXACTLY.
 
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How you can knock a guy for being really upset and confuse it with EGO is beyond me.
 
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billbattle said:
I think Phil handled the whole situation very badly. After reading all of the sympathy posts and threads, I know most people on here will bash me, but I think Phil created the potential for unnecessary animosity for all concerned. The players are all up in arms, recruits are probably wondering what kind of school is this, the media is eating it up, and coaching prospects are apprehensive. I think Fulmer thinks he is bigger than the program and has no perception of failure on his part in any way. He should have been a bigger man, took one for the good of the program and simply stated he was looking forward to a fruitful retirement. Instead, he hung the AD up to dry, created havoc and dissension with the players and played to the base emotions of the fans and supporters. The animosity on this board is proof positive of that fact. Good luck to him, but I have a more negative opinion of his dedication to the program than I did a few days ago.

Fire away fellow Vol fanatics, but always remember the program is bigger than any one individual and hopefully always will be.
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I'm totally on board. We have very simular perspectives about this. You can see that perspective reflected in my posts throughout the board. :good!:
 
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Fine Vol said:
How you can knock a guy for being really upset and confuse it with EGO is beyond me.
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because his ego shone through and he did yesterday exactly what someone concerned with the program would not have done.

It was grandstanding and surrounding himself with those he knew would be vocal supporters. It was almsot a plea to get his supporters to disown the decision makers.

In the end, he loved him having THE job much more than he loved winning for UT.
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Fine Vol said:
How you can knock a guy for being really upset and confuse it with EGO is beyond me.
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Here is the point that I believe you miss. No one is saying that he should not have his feelings. The fact is though he should keep those feelings in check and out of the public. To not do that only continues to make the situation worse. It is not good for the Program, the University or him.
 
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billbattle said:
I think Phil handled the whole situation very badly. After reading all of the sympathy posts and threads, I know most people on here will bash me, but I think Phil created the potential for unnecessary animosity for all concerned. The players are all up in arms, recruits are probably wondering what kind of school is this, the media is eating it up, and coaching prospects are apprehensive. I think Fulmer thinks he is bigger than the program and has no perception of failure on his part in any way. He should have been a bigger man, took one for the good of the program and simply stated he was looking forward to a fruitful retirement. Instead, he hung the AD up to dry, created havoc and dissension with the players and played to the base emotions of the fans and supporters. The animosity on this board is proof positive of that fact. Good luck to him, but I have a more negative opinion of his dedication to the program than I did a few days ago.

Fire away fellow Vol fanatics, but always remember the program is bigger than any one individual and hopefully always will be.
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My sentiments exactly. Fulmer could have handled ths situation better than what he showed. Sure, I would have been ticked as well, but If he loved UT as much as he says he does ,he shouldn't have showed the bitter attitude! He did more harm than good IMHO:no:
 
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BigPapaVol said:
because his ego shone through and he did yesterday exactly what someone concerned with the program would not have done.

It was grandstanding and surrounding himself with those he knew would be vocal supporters. It was almsot a plea to get his supporters to disown the decision makers.

In the end, he loved him having THE job much more than he loved winning for UT.
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OK so let me get this right! His emotion of being FIRED was grandstanding LOL. Even if you dont like him that is a streach and you could see his true emotion. Lets see you reaction under the same circumstances.
 
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billbattle said:
I think Phil handled the whole situation very badly. After reading all of the sympathy posts and threads, I know most people on here will bash me, but I think Phil created the potential for unnecessary animosity for all concerned. The players are all up in arms, recruits are probably wondering what kind of school is this, the media is eating it up, and coaching prospects are apprehensive. I think Fulmer thinks he is bigger than the program and has no perception of failure on his part in any way. He should have been a bigger man, took one for the good of the program and simply stated he was looking forward to a fruitful retirement. Instead, he hung the AD up to dry, created havoc and dissension with the players and played to the base emotions of the fans and supporters. The animosity on this board is proof positive of that fact. Good luck to him, but I have a more negative opinion of his dedication to the program than I did a few days ago.

Fire away fellow Vol fanatics, but always remember the program is bigger than any one individual and hopefully always will be.
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Your comments and those of all who are in agreement...are TOTALLY DISGUSTING!
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I think he handled it the best he could have. It was full of emotion..cause like he said, its all he has known since 1969. Thats a long long time.
 
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Yea Phil is an A** for not caring about the program because he made it look like A. he really cares and B. he is not happy about the firing. Who the hell do you think you are to demand the way HE completes a press conference after a tough firing? WOW
 
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Fine Vol said:
OK so let me get this right! His emotion of being FIRED was grandstanding LOL. Even if you dont like him that is a streach and you could see his true emotion. Lets see you reaction under the same circumstances.
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Well with the way it turned out instead of trying to camo this thing up. It should have been handled as the firing it was!
 
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Fine Vol said:
OK so let me get this right! His emotion of being FIRED was grandstanding LOL. Even if you dont like him that is a streach and you could see his true emotion. Lets see you reaction under the same circumstances.
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the nature of his pesentation, the commentary and having the players up front was absolutely grandstanding. The emotion was a natural response, but the show was complete garbage. The commentary was complete garbage. He could have just as easily said "I'm stepping down because I believe the time has come." That would have accomplished the deal. He could have saved the other trash for after the season, rather than generating this kind of coverage.
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My guess is that the players were whipped into a frenzy prior to the 5pm press conference and things got a little out of hand. I think Fulmer's emotions were real, but this university has given that man an opportunity he would have never gotten otherwise. Because of his stature as coach of the Vols, he has been places and seen things and talked to people that most of us can only dream about. Also, talk about taken care of financially....I appreciate his service, but he has been given many things via good ole UT.
 
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Teach your children well......."What goes around, comes around." Exactly 16 years after a gloating Fulmer was on top of Rocky Top and a sad and dissappointed Coach Majors was shown the exit, the same thing happens to old Phil.
 
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Fine Vol said:
Yea Phil is an A** for not caring about the program because he made it look like A. he really cares and B. he is not happy about the firing. Who the hell do you think you are to demand the way HE completes a press conference after a tough firing? WOW
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I don't recall "demanding" anything, plus it's after the fact genius. I just stated that the man, in my opinion, should have been more mature about the situation. But then again, after seeing his performance in big games, I shouldn't have been surprised at how he handled it.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
the nature of his pesentation, the commentary and having the players up front was absolutely grandstanding. The emotion was a natural response, but the show was complete garbage. The commentary was complete garbage. He could have just as easily said "I'm stepping down because I believe the time has come." That would have accomplished the deal. He could have saved the other trash for after the season, rather than generating this kind of coverage.
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I disagree. If he feels truly wronged and the players back him then he has earned the right to make a statement.
 
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