Administrative nightmare. Coaching debacle.

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Dave Hart has announced his resignation as we all know. He isn't leaving his post anytime soon though. Tennessee hasn't even whispered that they are close to naming a replacement AD.

Here's the problem:

Butch is Dave Hart's guy. He hired him. Tennessee won't bring in a new AD until the spring at the very earliest. Like everything else, UT will either drag their feet in the mud or completely botch the AD situation all together. Hart isn't going to fire Butch. When the new AD gets here it will be too late to make a move. So the new AD won't fire Butch either. That's a problem too, because Butch won't be "his guy". It puts the new AD in a really bad spot and he will likely keep Butch for another season or 2 to see how it plays out.

So, to me, UT not going ahead and hiring a new AD weeks ago is what is really the travesty in all this. It's about to get really, really messy in Knoxville.
 
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This is just ridiculous. A dont care who and when you hire a new AD, Jones is not going anywhere for at least 2 years. Get used to that reality and stop this childish speculative jibberish.
 
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ToptheTerrible said:
This is just ridiculous. A dont care who and when you hire a new AD, Jones is not going anywhere for at least 2 years. Get used to that reality and stop this childish speculative jibberish.
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Right. Read my post. Said Butch will be here another year or 2. Had the Vols hired a new AD a month or 2 ago.....better believe he would be taking a very long hard look at bringing in "his guy". You know nothing about anything.
 
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The only way Butch is fired this year is to lose out - and that is doubtful even as badly as we have played

If the new AD is aggressive, he could pull an LSU and make a move mid season if team 121 lays an egg like they are this season.

The one thing that buys Butch more time is to hire a young gun OC and let him revive the offense next year (scrap the hurry up and punt system that he loves so much). -and of course wins over Florida or Bama help ease the pain
 
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ToptheTerrible said:
This is just ridiculous. A dont care who and when you hire a new AD, Jones is not going anywhere for at least 2 years. Get used to that reality and stop this childish speculative jibberish.
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He has improved the team, but I think he has already reached his ceiling. I wanted Petrino ( warts and all) when we hired Botch. Petrino is a proven winner ( and a horrible person). We live in an imperfect world.
 
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I'm so sick of the Fahr Butch crowd. If we fire him where do we go? There will literally be zero interest in this program even from mediocre coaches. Why exactly do you think it is we don't have a proven commodity right now? Because big name coaches agent looking to come here. I wish they were but they are not beating our doors down like they are Michigan, Ohio St, LSU and Texas. Better get used to it people.
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm so sick of the Fahr Butch crowd. If we fire him where do we go? There will literally be zero interest in this program even from mediocre coaches. Why exactly do you think it is we don't have a proven commodity right now? Because big name coaches agent looking to come here. I wish they were but they are not beating our doors down like they are Michigan, Ohio St, LSU and Texas. Better get used to it people.
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Correct. All you need to do is look at our previous coaching searches. We have dug this hole with unrealistic expectations and now it's time to lay in it. Butch is the man until at least 2018. Deal with it.
 
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CountVolcula said:
If he loses to Kentucky and Vandy, which both are possible, he wont see next year[/QUOT


He will. If he isn't then the admin should be fired and we should forfeit our program. If we fire him the only people willing to accept this position will be of the Dooley ilk. We need a few years of stabilization before we can take our shot at a quality guy. Right now anyone of quality would laugh in our face.
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CountVolcula said:
I understand that we have some boosters that could buy you and me both out probably a 100 million times and not miss a dime of it
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I think we just hit them up to improve our facilities. We could talk them into a proven commodity but proven commodities aren't interested.
 
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KB5252 said:
CountVolcula said:
If he loses to Kentucky and Vandy, which both are possible, he wont see next year[/QUOT


He will. If he isn't then the admin should be fired and we should forfeit our program. If we fire him the only people willing to accept this position will be of the Dooley ilk. We need a few years of stabilization before we can take our shot at a quality guy. Right now anyone of quality would laugh in our face.
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No way you can prove a word of what you just posted. You have no clue who is/would be interested in the Tennessee job. If you have some proof, then show it.
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