AD Danny White on NIL

[sjt18]

At a minimum, the timing was awfully suspicious, the Mandel article comes out and says that a 5 star California high school QB is signing an 8 million dollar deal to attend an SEC school, and he prints excerpts from the contract and interviewed the QB's lawyer and like within 5-10 days Nico is committed. It's sort of like that time Dick Chaney outed that CIA agent by referring to her as "(insert name of real dude)'s wife", and then he was like "I didn't say her name".

He may have been writing about him. That doesn't bother me either way. But a lot of people took that nugget and filled in all the blanks. A deal "worth" $8 million may be guaranteed or contingent. It would almost have to come with "deliverables" or else it would not be protected by that ruling. As far as I know, a player still has to "do something" to earn his NIL money. They can't just give it to him.

I think you are talking about Valerie Plame who essentially outed herself and attempted to use her position with the CIA to undermine foreign policy decisions that disagreed with her political party.

 

[Volador]

That's all I have to say about that

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

He may have been writing about him. That doesn't bother me either way. But a lot of people took that nugget and filled in all the blanks. A deal "worth" $8 million may be guaranteed or contingent. It would almost have to come with "deliverables" or else it would not be protected by that ruling. As far as I know, a player still has to "do something" to earn his NIL money. They can't just give it to him.

I think you are talking about Valerie Plame who essentially outed herself and attempted to use her position with the CIA to undermine foreign policy decisions that disagreed with her political party.

This is what the Mandel article said about the contract:

Valerie Plame also sounds right. FWIW, I voted for Bush twice and for Trump twice, however at one point Chaney did take the position that he had not disclosed her name because he didn't say her name, and instead said: "she's (whatever her husband's name was)'s wife", which is hilarious.

 

[sjt18]

This is what the Mandel article said about the contract:
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Valerie Plame also sounds right. FWIW, I voted for Bush twice and for Trump twice, however at one point Chaney did take the position that he had not disclosed her name because he didn't say her name, and instead said: "she's (whatever her husband's name was)'s wife", which is hilarious.

Yeah. Chaney was never exactly a guy you could feel good about but Plame and her husband were pure slime too.

Yeah. Nothing new in the article. I tend to believe there are terms that define some sort of "deliverable" from Nico. I don't think just "trust" was how they got past the commitment part.

If I'm wrong then it will be the first time I've seen a company sign a contract that essentially says, "Here's some money. We have no expectations of you. Screw us if you want to."

 

[firedog28]

I am really hoping we can buy a class as good as Texas A&M's class last year. I would happily let Saban complain openly about it.

I actually hope Saban does complain about us.That would make my day so to speak!

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Yeah. Chaney was never exactly a guy you could feel good about but Plame and her husband were pure slime too.

Yeah. Nothing new in the article. I tend to believe there are terms that define some sort of "deliverable" from Nico. I don't think just "trust" was how they got past the commitment part.

If I'm wrong then it will be the first time I've seen a company sign a contract that essentially says, "Here's some money. We have no expectations of you. Screw us if you want to."

Agree about Plame and her husband. On the contract, hasn't the bag man game always been kind of risky? If you watch Pony Excess, Eric Dickerson took A&M's money and a Trans AM back in the day and enrolled at SMU. FWIW, this lawyer Caspino, who according to him, represents most of the 5 stars in the sport now, is still singing the same tune, this is from that On3 article I linked above from May 19th:

 

[sjt18]

Agree about Plame and her husband. On the contract, hasn't the bag man game always been kind of risky? If you watch Pony Excess, Eric Dickerson took A&M's money and a Trans AM back in the day and enrolled at SMU. FWIW, this lawyer Caspino, who according to him, represents most of the 5 stars in the sport now, is still singing the same tune, this is from that On3 article I linked above from May 19th:
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LOL... could have stopped reading at "indentured servant". Not that he was all that credible to start with but that kind of hyperbole is laughable.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

LOL... could have stopped reading at "indentured servant". Not that he was all that credible to start with but that kind of hyperbole is laughable.

You must not know many plaintiffs/claimant's lawyers, they are mostly ridiculous talking. It sounds like he's LOL'ing all the way to the bank though.

 

[sjt18]

You must not know many plaintiffs/claimant's lawyers, they are mostly ridiculous talking. It sounds like he's LOL'ing all the way to the bank though.

Yeah. Sounded like he was trying to drum up business by scaring "vulnerable high school kids who don't have the good sense to consult a lawyer".

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Yeah. Sounded like he was trying to drum up business by scaring "vulnerable high school kids who don't have the good sense to consult a lawyer".

Go look in the Nico thread in the RF about the time this got announced in late March. That's exactly what I said then. It often works sadly, fools love a fool.

 

[tennesseeduke]

There are rules?

Yes called Bama rules. Everyone must comply!

 

[VolMarine1371]

I am really hoping we can buy a class as good as Texas A&M's class last year. I would happily let Saban complain openly about it.

aTm DID NOT PAY FOR 1 PLAYER OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sjt18]

aTm DID NOT PAY FOR 1 PLAYER OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah. The rules changed. Why not just be honest and make the most of the rules until they change again. UT appears to be doing that without much apology. I'm not sure why Fisher chose to deny... other than I've always thought he was a little slimy.

 

[TheDeeble]

White is one of the best athletic directors in the nation. He’s a proactive administrator who takes a 10,000-foot view of the various issues that impact an athletic department. There’s not a better athletic director in the country to help usher Tennessee into this new NIL-driven college football world.

Could you imagine how bad off we would be if Fulmer was still AD right now?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

That's bizarre to me. Of course they are making their decision based on $$$, but you can't "entice" them. How does that work? I'll hang up and listen.

The deal cannot be contingent upon player attending UT. However, the deal could require a specified number of personal appearances in Knoxville throughout the year. It is all a bunch of BS. It is a recruiting tool no matter how you slice it.

 

[ptcarter]

The deal cannot be contingent upon player attending UT. However, the deal could require a specified number of personal appearances in Knoxville throughout the year. It is all a bunch of BS. It is a recruiting tool no matter how you slice it.

Kinda reminds me of the movies where there is a murder trial.

Witness: "I saw him buy a big knife at Cabella's, the exact size of the murder weapon and he paid cash"

Defense attorney: "I object, you can't prove that since he paid cash, there is no record of it, it's hearsay" n

Judge: "Sustained, Jury you will act like you never heard that"


Later that afternoon in jury deliberation: "wow, the guy bought the murder weapon at Cabellas, GUILTY".

Who ya foolin?

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

The deal cannot be contingent upon player attending UT. However, the deal could require a specified number of personal appearances in Knoxville throughout the year. It is all a bunch of BS. It is a recruiting tool no matter how you slice it.

We'll see about that, courts for example tend to ignore sham set-ups like that and treat them for what they really are. That Casparino guy, the lawyer for the 8 million dollar player said his clients don't sign stuff like that and Stewart Mandel saw the contract.