AD Danny White on NIL

[VolForLife83]

White is one of the best athletic directors in the nation. He’s a proactive administrator who takes a 10,000-foot view of the various issues that impact an athletic department. There’s not a better athletic director in the country to help usher Tennessee into this new NIL-driven college football world.


Tennessee AD Danny White explains the line in the sand he's drawn with NIL deals


“With the new Tennessee state law, we can now collaborate with them (collectives) in ways that weren’t permissible a month ago,” said White. “All along, they have been good community partners. We have a director of name, image and likeness who has experience in compliance and marketing. Her job is to focus on NIL—making sure we are educating Spyre and others who want to engage in that space on what the rules are and what the laws are.”

 

[SpookyAction]

Sounds smart, legal, and inside the lines.
Carry on AD White and company.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

White is one of the best athletic directors in the nation. He’s a proactive administrator who takes a 10,000-foot view of the various issues that impact an athletic department. There’s not a better athletic director in the country to help usher Tennessee into this new NIL-driven college football world.


Tennessee AD Danny White explains the line in the sand he's drawn with NIL deals


“With the new Tennessee state law, we can now collaborate with them (collectives) in ways that weren’t permissible a month ago,” said White. “All along, they have been good community partners. We have a director of name, image and likeness who has experience in compliance and marketing. Her job is to focus on NIL—making sure we are educating Spyre and others who want to engage in that space on what the rules are and what the laws are.”

There are rules?

 

[jackaro]

I am really hoping we can buy a class as good as Texas A&M's class last year. I would happily let Saban complain openly about it.

 

[LWSVOL]

There are rules?

Yes. You can't entice recruits with NIL deals. White stated that in an interview with VolQuest. That is why he has an NIL person to keep that from happening.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Yes. You can't entice recruits with NIL deals. White stated that in an interview with VolQuest. That is why he has an NIL person to keep that from happening.

I know, I was being facetious, I've been assured there aren't any rules a few times around here.

 

[DawgInterloper]

Yes. You can't entice recruits with NIL deals. White stated that in an interview with VolQuest. That is why he has an NIL person to keep that from happening.

The problem is lack of consensus on what constitutes an "inducement" for recruits or transfers. How can athletic departments know with certainty what's permissible and what isn't? Right now it appears that every team and every state is proceeding apace under a different interpretation of the "rules", and the NCAA doesn't have legal authority or even an enforcement capacity to adjudicate and resolve these differences.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I think it’s time to put the $8 million deal for Nico to bed.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!! Tennessee is being what it should be, a trendsetter, not a mere Johnny-come-lately follower.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

I think it’s time to put the $8 million deal for Nico to bed.

What, like it didn't happen? Serious question.

 

[Raebo]

You can’t tell a recruit that they will get an NIL deal but is it enticement if you tell recruits what kind of NIL deals players on the team have. I am sure players on the team tell recruits about NIL deals they have when recruits have visits to the school.
White does sound like he is on top of things. Glad we have him.

 

[LWSVOL]

The problem is lack of consensus on what constitutes an "inducement" for recruits or transfers. How can athletic departments know with certainty what's permissible and what isn't? Right now it appears that every team and every state is proceeding apace under a different interpretation of the "rules", and the NCAA doesn't have legal authority or even an enforcement capacity to adjudicate and resolve these differences.

First of all, NCAA rules cannot over rule state laws. State laws are different. Texas law allows contact with recruits. That is the main item the NCAA wants to curtail in this. But without consistent laws its impossible.

 

[TitanicVolz]

What, like it didn't happen? Serious question.

He doesn't know he's been riding Nicos nuts in the RF so hard for months now tryin to discredit Nico Spyre the whole situation.Id take my 7 year olds opinion over that fools lol...On Nico it's anyone's guess man,its never been confirmed or denied but logic says yea he signed something for a crap load of money.Does any of us kniw the details etc nope,will we all speculate all day every day Yep.

 

[ptcarter]

Yes. You can't entice recruits with NIL deals. White stated that in an interview with VolQuest. That is why he has an NIL person to keep that from happening.

That's bizarre to me. Of course they are making their decision based on $$$, but you can't "entice" them. How does that work? I'll hang up and listen.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

That's bizarre to me. Of course they are making their decision based on $$$, but you can't "entice" them. How does that work? I'll hang up and listen.

Imagine a vast plain on the coast of the Netherlands during a storm surge flood. Several dikes have already given out, the water is rushing in from all sides, but one dike remains standing. The NCAA, and some university presidents, are trying to keep that dike from being washed away as well. Never mind that it is now surrounded by seawater and no longer serves its purpose. They really, really want that one dike (the element of amateurism in college sports that prohibits financial inducement during the recruiting process) to remain standing.

Amateurism is gone. The plain is flooded. But the NCAA is for some strange reason fighting to retain that one dike.

And it happens to be the one dike that had been most compromised all along (worst-kept dirty little secret of college football in the 20th century).

It is bizarre. I agree.

 

[ptcarter]

Imagine a vast plain on the coast of the Netherlands during a storm surge flood. Several dikes have already given out, the water is rushing in from all sides, but one dike remains standing. The NCAA, and some university presidents, are trying to keep that dike from being washed away as well. Never mind that it is now surrounded by seawater and no longer serves its purpose. They really, really want that one dike (the element of amateurism in college sports that prohibits financial inducement during the recruiting process) to remain standing.

Amateurism is gone. The plain is flooded. But the NCAA is for some strange reason fighting to retain that one dike.

And it happens to be the one dike that had been most compromised all along (worst-kept dirty little secret of college football in the 20th century).

It is bizarre. I agree.

JP- I always enjoy your take on things. Well said. As Joe Walsh sang "We are living in a world of illusion". Women swimmers with a rudder, men shouldering the birthing load, and I'll stop now so the mods don't move this.

 

[LWSVOL]

That's bizarre to me. Of course they are making their decision based on $$$, but you can't "entice" them. How does that work? I'll hang up and listen.

As Sankey indicated, its not.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

What, like it didn't happen? Serious question.

Exactly.

 

[sjt18]

That's bizarre to me. Of course they are making their decision based on $$$, but you can't "entice" them. How does that work? I'll hang up and listen.

It means something similar to the idea that you cannot administer a pre-employment drug test until after making an offer.

It might look like this- "Your NIL does not require you to sign with a particular school. However it does require that you be available to do NIL "work" in this geographic area and provide marketing value to these particular businesses." Not many players are going to sign an NIL and then make that work by playing for Carson-Newman.

Money is a factor but we have likely already seen guys turn down more money for a program they liked better or felt would give them a better opportunity in football.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

He doesn't know he's been riding Nicos nuts in the RF so hard for months now tryin to discredit Nico Spyre the whole situation.Id take my 7 year olds opinion over that fools lol...On Nico it's anyone's guess man,its never been confirmed or denied but logic says yea he signed something for a crap load of money.Does any of us kniw the details etc nope,will we all speculate all day every day Yep.

Correct. You know nothing and neither do I. Discrediting Nico and Spyre? Dude you are a clown. I donate monthly to Spyre. Love Nico. It’s just there are idiots, probably you, that think money is the only reason we got him. I disagree. I find it hilarious you bashing me for my opinion yet you clearly admit you know as much as I do. Go eat some cotton candy Bozo.

 

[sjt18]

What, like it didn't happen? Serious question.

We don't know. People jumped all over it and assumptions have now made their way into "common knowledge".

I strongly suspect that his deal does not guarantee him $8 million. That would be an incredibly risky thing for someone to do with a bank account of $25 million (I think that was the report on Spyre a few months back). Whoever they give deals to have to generate revenue. However the deal was written it almost has to have some "deliverables" Nico. Those more than likely have to do with the value of his NIL to businesses that want to use his NIL.

I suspect that deal has the potential for that amount rather than a guarantee.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

First of all, NCAA rules cannot over rule state laws. State laws are different. Texas law allows contact with recruits. That is the main item the NCAA wants to curtail in this. But without consistent laws its impossible.

That's why Sankey is talking SEC only playoff. If the SEC goes it's own way and doesn't compete with other conferences, it can set whatever rules it wants to and if people break them, they can't play, it doesn't matter if it's legal under state law. The NCAA can't do that because of Antitrust law due to it being the only game in town, the SEC won't have that problem because kids can go play in another conference. Even Kavanaugh admitted the conferences were on different footing in his concurrence. Basically Sankey would be wagering that the name on the front of the jersey or the helmet was more important than the name on the back, and at least as to Southerners, that's probably right.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

We don't know. People jumped all over it and assumptions have now made their way into "common knowledge".

I strongly suspect that his deal does not guarantee him $8 million. That would be an incredibly risky thing for someone to do with a bank account of $25 million (I think that was the report on Spyre a few months back). Whoever they give deals to have to generate revenue. However the deal was written it almost has to have some "deliverables" Nico. Those more than likely have to do with the value of his NIL to businesses that want to use his NIL.

I suspect that deal has the potential for that amount rather than a guarantee.

At a minimum, the timing was awfully suspicious, the Mandel article comes out and says that a 5 star California high school QB is signing an 8 million dollar deal to attend an SEC school, and he prints excerpts from the contract and interviewed the QB's lawyer and like within 5-10 days Nico is committed. It's sort of like that time Dick Chaney outed that CIA agent by referring to her as "(insert name of real dude)'s wife", and then he was like "I didn't say her name".

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Exactly.

This is an interesting interview from a few days ago. This is the same lawyer Mandel interviewed:

The NIL Lawyer: Meet the man orchestrating deals reshaping recruiting

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Imagine a vast plain on the coast of the Netherlands during a storm surge flood. Several dikes have already given out, the water is rushing in from all sides, but one dike remains standing. The NCAA, and some university presidents, are trying to keep that dike from being washed away as well. Never mind that it is now surrounded by seawater and no longer serves its purpose. They really, really want that one dike (the element of amateurism in college sports that prohibits financial inducement during the recruiting process) to remain standing.

Amateurism is gone. The plain is flooded. But the NCAA is for some strange reason fighting to retain that one dike.

And it happens to be the one dike that had been most compromised all along (worst-kept dirty little secret of college football in the 20th century).

It is bizarre. I agree.

Agreed and you made a very good analogy, but...
Since we’re “imagining”, can we change from the Netherlands, to Athens or Tuscaloosa? I’d much rather imagine one of those crap holes flooded than some beautiful coastal town in the Netherlands.
GBO!!