According to Will West, "negotiations" were always about getting more receivers, OL

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OrangeAllDay said:
wether or not all of us “would try to negotiate more money”, Nico’s family over played their hand. That’s just ****** negotiating
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Ever notice they don’t take open calls to have to defend their snarky takes real time? That time slot is hard to deal with. Back to my oldies channels when stuck in the car for me.
 
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rocketskates said:
I think it was all money. We have help on the line and he has more than enough weapons at receiver, especially now with Boo playing both ways.
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As much as I wanted him to live up to his HS hype, and hate this PROBABLE exit now SEEMINGLY needs to happen, I have to believe his no show yesterday damaged his standing with way too many players to pull off a return.

Gotta believe the poll on these boards show his marketability bottomed out and have to believe that is covered in NIL agreements. Anybody got any hard facts one way or the other?
 
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Vol865 said:
100k aren't showing up to watch a doctor do surgery. They are showing up to watch a good football team. Nico makes the team more competitive. Welcome to capitalism.

With that said, I'm at the point where whatever happens, happens.
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Just goes to show how screwed up our priorities are.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Will has been weird about this, almost making Tennessee the bad guy.
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Will once said we need to get rid of running through the T and make our pregame entrance “cool.” Will said God called him to come preach because he was tired of waking up to do the morning show and then suddenly God’s preaching call ceased when he got to switch and do the evening show.

Will has a very odd brain.
 
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DooleyOrangePants said:
This smells like Nico’s team (or father because apparently “Team” is a foreign concept to them) is trying to spin some damage control because this hasn’t gone quite like they tried to play it out.

He will still get rich, but hopefully they get a dose of reality after this and watch that fade away from the greed & extortion they tried to pull here. Calling coaches to gauge interest and value should have been the first clue to anyone paying attention.
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He’s already rich. Already made more than 99% of people ever will make. Highly doubt he gets wealthy though.
 
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tennrich1 said:
If that’s the two guys in the late afternoon I absolutely refuse to listen to both of them. I’m not local so I’ll listen online when I’m walking but absolutely cannot listen to those two in late afternoon ….they are absolutely pathetic. Talking about favorite movies, favorite food etc …..ridiculous! So I wouldn’t trust anything neither one of them said. Actually John Wilkerson in the morning about the only one I can listen to.
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I share your distaste for those two. Putrid. Spend the whole show trying to be cute or cool.
 
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Majors said:
it’s some truth as any player would want better talent around him. We got Sanders but didn’t really upgrade in areas of need in the portal.
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I wonder if he just wanted out of his deal. Who knows, maybe he wasn't a fan of his coaching, OL or WRs.

'm not defending Nico, I think this parting is probably best for everyone.

Really all we know about JH is that Hooker can run this offense really well.
 
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MurphyVol said:
I wonder if he just wanted out of his deal. Who knows, maybe he wasn't a fan of his coaching, OL or WRs.

'm not defending Nico, I think this parting is probably best for everyone.

Really all we know about JH is that Hooker can run this offense really well.
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Honestly I think that’s plausible. I don’t think he liked the attention that came with being the face of Tennessee. Believe his dad enjoyed it more the him. We didn’t set up a roster like OSU had across the board on the field and he would rather be a face in the crowd in LA again. Our fans are over top in regard to autographs, pictures and wanting to talk. Some kids want that and some don’t they want to be able to turn it off.
 
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Vols till I fall said:
Per
@JohnDBrice1
neither Notre Dame nor USC have any interest in Nico.

This all feels like a disaster we are all going to watch play out in slow motion
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Madden decommited from UCLA and that’s a train wreck under Foster.

Both schools probably had interest but not wanting the backlash now.
 
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He may have screwed himself here. Whoever signs him after this will have to pay everyone else around him more money. Oregon may be his only option. Most other teams probably don't want the smoke and the headache he's become..
 
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I think that it may come out that Nico may have been the reason we didn’t and couldn’t bring in some higher rated wr’s. With Nico, the money just wasn’t there.
 
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1morevol said:
I share your distaste for those two. Putrid. Spend the whole show trying to be cute or cool.
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I'm usually uncomfortable talking about people in that manner and I don't know them personally of course. But I started my career in radio (after college broadcasting) and discovered I HATED IT and quickly changed career paths. However, I do remember a couple of things you learn almost immediately in radio broadcasting. #1. Dead airtime must NEVER happen #2. NEVER, EVER try to entertain yourself (or a co-host) but ALWAYS stay on topic and NEVER make it about you!. The second rule is the one I simply can not stomach. That's why I appreciate the job John Wilkerson does. And, of course, the GOAT John Ward NEVER made it about himself....EVER!
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
It makes sense though. If the goal is to be a high NFL draft pick then you need the best team around you. Nico and his family could be looking at the current talent level on offense and seeing that they need more help if Nico is to maximize his potential and be a 1st round pick.

It's actually more plausible than him trying to squeeze another million or two out of us when franchise QBs are making $60 million a year now. Maximum NFL money could be the goal rather than maximum NIL money.
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It makes sense if you want to believe that load of bulls***.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
It makes sense though. If the goal is to be a high NFL draft pick then you need the best team around you. Nico and his family could be looking at the current talent level on offense and seeing that they need more help if Nico is to maximize his potential and be a 1st round pick.

It's actually more plausible than him trying to squeeze another million or two out of us when franchise QBs are making $60 million a year now. Maximum NFL money could be the goal rather than maximum NIL money.
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There are "team" players and leaders, then, there are "me" players and mine. There is family, agents and others always looking for a buck. Nico is a "me and Mine" type guy. He can become that in the future, but he or somebody in his camp jumped in too early.

He used the excuse of receivers and line to cover up his deficiencies. Release times, reading defenses, and knowing the play calling. Inability to time. No rhythm with the exception of the Georgia game. Not sure he has the brain to produce/show his talent in a game.

Sampson and defense saved our buts last year.

What's more, locker room talk about him negotiating for more $$$$ more than likely came out before the OSU game. Kids talk and they see the side of him that fans don't. Nico is more than likely forced the issue to get out of here and some are happy he is gone. WR were taking the hit and Nico was getting the money by blaming them.
Kind of an "You ain't worth a Sh*t without me" attitude.

Big game he was barely a show.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
This is how they should do it. By why is it that almost every year the player who wins the heisman (which typically goes to the college player who puts up the best stats) ends up going high in the draft. In particular QBs who can go from not even being in the discussion of a 1st round pick to being in the top 5. Just last year nobody had Jayden Daniels as a first round pick before the season. He wins the heisman after putting up monster stats and goes #2 overall. In 2017 Baker Mayfield went from a guy who nobody had as a first rounder to the 1st overall pick after winning the heisman. Same with Joe Burrow.

The prospects like Trevor Lawrence that are gonna go #1 overall no matter what based on physical traits are rare. Usually it's a combination of physical traits and production that gets you drafted high. And the higher your production the more likely draft experts are to overlook your physical limitations. A great example of this is our very own Derek Barnett. I got into a lot of trouble before the 2017 draft saying he wasn't a 1st round caliber player based on his lack of elite physical traits. Nonetheless he still went in the 1st round because his production was elite. Unlike defensive end, QB production is dependent on other players. So if a QB prospect wants to improve his draft position by putting up monster stats then it makes sense to want other great players around you.
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Because elite players also tend to have elite production. And elite production generates accolades.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Will once said we need to get rid of running through the T and make our pregame entrance “cool.” Will said God called him to come preach because he was tired of waking up to do the morning show and then suddenly God’s preaching call ceased when he got to switch and do the evening show.

Will has a very odd brain.
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Not a fan. Can't remember the entire context, but listening to him one morning on the radio and he basically chewed some guy up and basically said he would take him behind the woodshed over the guy's opinion. I was thinking wth??? You're going to threaten a caller? Uh, your boss might have something to say to you.
 
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Vol737 said:
Not a fan. Can't remember the entire context, but listening to him one morning on the radio and he basically chewed some guy up and basically said he would take him behind the woodshed over the guy's opinion. I was thinking wth??? You're going to threaten a caller? Uh, your boss might have something to say to you.
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I don’t listen to him this partner in crime.
 
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