A "Pac-16" Impact on UT's Football Future

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looking at this from UT football perspective, this could be very bad for us....tennessee must recruit nationally, getting recruits from hotbeds like texas and california is crucial to keep up our prominance in the SEC since we haave very little in state talent. we can get these kids because they want to come play in a great power conference compared to the ones in their homestate (i.e. the big 12 or pac 10). i see it being alot harder sell to kids to convince them to come play in the SEC with what would be now an equally powerful conference in the Pac-16 with USC, TX, OK..... I hope im wrong but looking at it in that perspective has me worried the glamour of playing in the SEC (what has been clearly the biggest name conference in recent history) will not look as good to recruits on the west coast and southwest as playing in the new pac 16 closer to home. Im still confident we can get recruits from around the southeast and in the SEC market areas, but losing that carrot of playing in such a dominant conference to dangle in front of recruits might be gone....I got my faith in CDD that he will find a way! GO BIG ORANGE!
 
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You are going a little overboard. All you need is to recruit the south successfully (particulary Florida and Georgia) and you'll be fine.
 
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The SEC is going to have to toughen up the schedules! Look at TN for example, we got enough cream puffs in conference in USCjr, Vandy, Kentucky. Why are we scheduling Akron,UAB, and Memphis. Plus an extra week to prepare to Bama! 12 games and only 6 worth watching!

And the second tier schools like Vandy and Miss St. don't play one solid out of conference game anymore. Four games not fit to watch!
 
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The Pac-16 will probably only have a noticeable effect (but not that much) on LSU and Arkansas.

Between east TN, Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, etc., there is enough talent around to build a winning program again.
 
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milohimself said:
The Pac-16 will probably only have a noticeable effect (but not that much) on LSU and Arkansas.

Between east TN, Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, etc., there is enough talent around to build a winning program again.
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Agreed, there is enough talent in the South alone to fuel every team we have, it will come down to recruiting and coaching...........um TN looks.......mediocre at best.
 
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milohimself said:
The Pac-16 will probably only have a noticeable effect (but not that much) on LSU and Arkansas.

Between east TN, Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, etc., there is enough talent around to build a winning program again.
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Kids want to play for a winning program with a good coah and excellent surroundings. Win and they will come!
 
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This Pac10 expansion is stupid the schools in Texas and Oklahoma arent even in the Pacific coast area. If anything they should add Boise State, Utah, BYU, Nevada, etc. solid programs that are on the rise and are close to the area. Can you imagine being UCLA or USC and having to go to Oregon one week then going back to So Cal then the next week going to Texas to play a game and then either go back to Arizona, Washington, or Oregon to play another game. That is going to drain the players out.
 
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codyg10 said:
This Pac10 expansion is stupid the schools in Texas and Oklahoma arent even in the Pacific coast area. If anything they should add Boise State, Utah, BYU, Nevada, etc. solid programs that are on the rise and are close to the area. Can you imagine being UCLA or USC and having to go to Oregon one week then going back to So Cal then the next week going to Texas to play a game and then either go back to Arizona, Washington, or Oregon to play another game. That is going to drain the players out.
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This expansion business isn't about staying in the area. It's the opposite actually. It's all about money. Expanding the Pac-10 to Texas, Oklahoma, and Colorado will expand their tv market greatly Much more so than adding the none BCS schools you mentioned above.
 
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Anyone who thinks that the SEC will stand pat does not understand CFB very well.

I thought Clay Travis was delusional when he wrote about a 16 team SEC where we have 4 divisions and our own little playoff between teams 1-4 leading to the SEC championship. Now I see it as a very real possibility. The SEC will do what it can to open up the TV contract for even more $$$.

The PAC 16 is about getting a big TV contract. Like Notre Dame has proven to NBC, if you have tons of fans in big media markets but your football falls off, you will not attract as many eyeballs. As long as the SEC continues winning all the National Championships, it will require a NCAA playoff to see any other conference approach the level of recruiting we can do.

By the way seeing Lame stuck at USC on massive probation while his league gets tons harder is going to be a delight.
 
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I don't see it affecting recruiting....as already stated, there is PLENTY of talent in the southeast to build a program up....and I still think we will be able to pull recruits from out of area if we win....we have the facilities and tradition, just need to take care of the winning and we'll be fine
 
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UtennfaninVa said:
looking at this from UT football perspective, this could be very bad for us....tennessee must recruit nationally, getting recruits from hotbeds like texas and california is crucial to keep up our prominance in the SEC since we haave very little in state talent. we can get these kids because they want to come play in a great power conference compared to the ones in their homestate (i.e. the big 12 or pac 10). i see it being alot harder sell to kids to convince them to come play in the SEC with what would be now an equally powerful conference in the Pac-16 with USC, TX, OK..... I hope im wrong but looking at it in that perspective has me worried the glamour of playing in the SEC (what has been clearly the biggest name conference in recent history) will not look as good to recruits on the west coast and southwest as playing in the new pac 16 closer to home. Im still confident we can get recruits from around the southeast and in the SEC market areas, but losing that carrot of playing in such a dominant conference to dangle in front of recruits might be gone....I got my faith in CDD that he will find a way! GO BIG ORANGE!
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I see your point but if UT can start winning.
UT can recruit areas states like yours (va), south carolina, and Metro Atlanta and still field a competitive team with the instate player we do have.
 
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UtennfaninVa said:
looking at this from UT football perspective, this could be very bad for us....tennessee must recruit nationally, getting recruits from hotbeds like texas and california is crucial to keep up our prominance in the SEC since we haave very little in state talent. we can get these kids because they want to come play in a great power conference compared to the ones in their homestate (i.e. the big 12 or pac 10). i see it being alot harder sell to kids to convince them to come play in the SEC with what would be now an equally powerful conference in the Pac-16 with USC, TX, OK..... I hope im wrong but looking at it in that perspective has me worried the glamour of playing in the SEC (what has been clearly the biggest name conference in recent history) will not look as good to recruits on the west coast and southwest as playing in the new pac 16 closer to home. Im still confident we can get recruits from around the southeast and in the SEC market areas, but losing that carrot of playing in such a dominant conference to dangle in front of recruits might be gone....I got my faith in CDD that he will find a way! GO BIG ORANGE!
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This is a minor part. But in response, if the SEC expands, depending on who they pick up, it could negatively impact Tennessee recruiting. What if they pick up Ga Tech and Clemson. Now 2 good recruiting areas for us are having more schools fight over the same number of kids. And you have to agree that Clemson and GT would become more appealing to kids if they are in the SEC.
 
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If anything is hurting our recruiting its the fact that our two biggest rivals beat us every yr and are arguably the best 2 programs on the country. But all the "SEC" fans are worried about the pac 10.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
If anything is hurting our recruiting its the fact that our two biggest rivals beat us every yr and are arguably the best 2 programs on the country. But all the "SEC" fans are worried about the pac 10.
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yeah, but it's the response to their expansion. if the SEC expands, and adds even better competition, then we have to worry about losing to more than just 2 of our rivals.
 
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golfballs03 said:
This is a minor part. But in response, if the SEC expands, depending on who they pick up, it could negatively impact Tennessee recruiting. What if they pick up Ga Tech and Clemson. Now 2 good recruiting areas for us are having more schools fight over the same number of kids. And you have to agree that Clemson and GT would become more appealing to kids if they are in the SEC.
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I think Miami would have a similar effect as South Florida is precisely where we need to be getting the talent to compete with UF and Bama.
 
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The Texas image certainly fits better with a conference including "south" than one including "pac'ific.
 
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Is it just me, or does it seem like Texas is actually ENJOYING being the prize of these expansion bidding wars/talks?
 
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Texas is only talking to the SEC because of Stallings...If they leave, it will be to go to the PAC 10 or whatever they will call the new conference IMO...We will get Miami, Ga Tech, and Clemson...This will be the start of the super conferences.
 
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