$5 million

[ericberry4heisman]

So everyone agrees that we were going to pay Gruden at least $5 million if he came here... So my question then is WHY did we go straight from him to guys that we will pay around 2.5-3 million? Not getting Gruden doesn't mean we can no longer spend big money to get a BIG name. If I'm Dave Hart I go to every under paid big name out there and ask to make them the highest paid coach in college football. If we threw $5 - $6 million at Stoops, (not big raise for him), i'd throw $4-5 million at Peterson or Patterson, (preferably CP) and if the others fell through, they'd be here. Are they worth that? Maybe not.. But we NEED them that badly. Peterson is making under $1.8 million at Boise. That's over doubling his pay. You MAKE these top level guys say yes. You don't go from Jon Gruden to Charlie Strong, Larry Fedora, and Al Golden. And that's nothing against them because I think they are all good football coaches, and COULD all become successful somewhere in the future, but they are all risks, and could all put us right back where we are right now. Go get Chris Peterson, and KNOW Tennessee football will be back. Go get Charlie Strong, and HOPE that Tennessee football will be back.

 

[Batman33]

So everyone agrees that we were going to pay Gruden at least $5 million if he came here... So my question then is WHY did we go straight from him to guys that we will pay around 2.5-3 million? Not getting Gruden doesn't mean we can no longer spend big money to get a BIG name. If I'm Dave Hart I go to every under paid big name out there and ask to make them the highest paid coach in college football. If we threw $5 - $6 million at Stoops, (not big raise for him), i'd throw $4-5 million at Peterson or Patterson, (preferably CP) and if the others fell through, they'd be here. Are they worth that? Maybe not.. But we NEED them that badly. Peterson is making under $1.8 million at Boise. That's over doubling his pay. You MAKE these top level guys say yes. You don't go from Jon Gruden to Charlie Strong, Larry Fedora, and Al Golden. And that's nothing against them because I think they are all good football coaches, and COULD all become successful somewhere in the future, but they are all risks, and could all put us right back where we are right now. Go get Chris Peterson, and KNOW Tennessee football will be back. Go get Charlie Strong, and HOPE that Tennessee football will be back.

this

 

[ericberry4heisman]

And my point isn't that it has to be Peterson or Patterson, just go get a BIG name with that $5 million. Get SOMEBODY that will NOT fail.

 

[joevol33]

Best post i've seen, agree 100%

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

That's why I am still pointing to Patterson and Gundy. I see both guys as very good options at top SEC money(4-5million). If we are going to put a bandaid on it at 2.5 million, I would just hire Fulmer and Chavis back.

 

[TNHopeful505]

Interesting....

What if we haven't gone from Jon Gruden to anyone, because it's always been Jon Gruden?


You have a point. When I think "Best Coaches I Could Get..." I don't go from Super Bowl winner Jon Gruden to 13-11 Al Golden.

Like I've said all along....if you don't smell the fish, you must have voted for Obama.

 

[TSwafford]

big names like Stoops arent gonna come here

 

[hog88]

We should just auction the job! Serious here, put a 10 mil bounty out there, conditions are;

1- Win the SEC in three years
2- Win a NC by year 4
3- No violations

Spend the money as you see fit, if you don't meet the goals- no buyout!

 

[orangesoda]

A lot of the money that was gonna be used was for JG.on the booster side anyway

 

[The Orange Pants]

Maybe I'm crazy but I'd offer Saban in the ballpark of 10 per and give him around 7 for assistants. He doesn't really have any loyalty to anybody. He is kinda like a mercenary. On top of that, the success he brings pays for his massive salary. I'd say screw it and go for it.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

We should just auction the job! Serious here, put a 10 mil bounty out there, conditions are;

1- Win the SEC in three years
2- Win a NC by year 4
3- No violations

Spend the money as you see fit, if you don't meet the goals- no buyout!

Ok, so George Quarles could take the job. He could spend the 30 million(27 on him and 3 for a staff over 3 years) and then after he goes 0-36 he can walk away with no buyout.

Sounds like a hell of a plan.

 

[lilesrt]

So everyone agrees that we were going to pay Gruden at least $5 million if he came here... So my question then is WHY did we go straight from him to guys that we will pay around 2.5-3 million? Not getting Gruden doesn't mean we can no longer spend big money to get a BIG name. If I'm Dave Hart I go to every under paid big name out there and ask to make them the highest paid coach in college football. If we threw $5 - $6 million at Stoops, (not big raise for him), i'd throw $4-5 million at Peterson or Patterson, (preferably CP) and if the others fell through, they'd be here. Are they worth that? Maybe not.. But we NEED them that badly. Peterson is making under $1.8 million at Boise. That's over doubling his pay. You MAKE these top level guys say yes. You don't go from Jon Gruden to Charlie Strong, Larry Fedora, and Al Golden. And that's nothing against them because I think they are all good football coaches, and COULD all become successful somewhere in the future, but they are all risks, and could all put us right back where we are right now. Go get Chris Peterson, and KNOW Tennessee football will be back. Go get Charlie Strong, and HOPE that Tennessee football will be back.

I completely agree. I, like alot on here, have a bad feeling about this hire. I haven't felt good about Tennessee football in a long time. After a while, being as bad as we've been, seeing anything football related in a positive light is difficult. This coaching search has got to be perfect. The SEC is the best it's ever been and truthfully it is just getting stronger. With the incompetency of the AD in recent years and the strict academic requirements I find it difficult to see Tennessee being anything but mediocre until we get serious about the football program again. Dave Hart better not bring a mediocre hire back to Knoxville. The fans are the life blood of any program and Tennessee is close to losing a bunch of them.

 

[soda23]

Interesting....

What if we haven't gone from Jon Gruden to anyone, because it's always been Jon Gruden?


You have a point. When I think "Best Coaches I Could Get..." I don't go from Super Bowl winner Jon Gruden to 13-11 Al Golden.

Like I've said all along....if you don't smell the fish, you must have voted for Obama.

apples and oranges I know , but if you estrapulate that 13-11 out , his winning would be just slightly better than Grudens

 

[mikeymike]

Maybe I'm crazy but I'd offer Saban in the ballpark of 10 per and give him around 7 for assistants. He doesn't really have any loyalty to anybody. He is kinda like a mercenary. On top of that, the success he brings pays for his massive salary. I'd say screw it and go for it.

A deal with the devil. Haha

 

[m1al]

Everyone needs to understand this....

If you don't get the office of AD completely straightened out and the BOT on board (lowering academic requirements to previous levels, etc.), then the football program will not get fixed. Great coaches that command the kind of money you are talking about know these are problems at UT. They also know they are large road blocks in the path back to football greatness. IMO they don't come with these road blocks in place.. This may have more to do with the Gruden situation than we know..

 

[TNHopeful505]

apples and oranges I know , but if you estrapulate that 13-11 out , his winning would be just slightly better than Grudens

Yes, but as you said....apples and oranges. NFL records cannot be compared to college. Some of those 13 wins were against some very bad teams. And I'm guessing some of those 11 losses may have been to bad teams as well.

 

[hog88]

Ok, so George Quarles could take the job. He could spend the 30 million(27 on him and 3 for a staff over 3 years) and then after he goes 0-36 he can walk away with no buyout.

Sounds like a hell of a plan.

There are holes on the plan, granted. The buyout mentioned was for the coach, don't win, no $$$.

 

[VFL 24/7]

Amen brother!! Go tell that to Hart!

 

[s1216]

How much you pay is determined by who is willing to come more so than the other way around. And the guys you list aren't going to be cheap either.

 

[oregonvol]

Agree with the OP. If Gruden is out of the picture then I want to hear Petersen and Patterson turn down 5-6 million dollar offers publicly, before we hire anyone else. I think Strong and others might be pretty good, but if we go from Gruden to Strong without making a serious play for Petersen and Patterson, then it tells me that the AD isn't doing his job.

 

[Vol67]

So everyone agrees that we were going to pay Gruden at least $5 million if he came here... So my question then is WHY did we go straight from him to guys that we will pay around 2.5-3 million? Not getting Gruden doesn't mean we can no longer spend big money to get a BIG name. If I'm Dave Hart I go to every under paid big name out there and ask to make them the highest paid coach in college football. If we threw $5 - $6 million at Stoops, (not big raise for him), i'd throw $4-5 million at Peterson or Patterson, (preferably CP) and if the others fell through, they'd be here. Are they worth that? Maybe not.. But we NEED them that badly. Peterson is making under $1.8 million at Boise. That's over doubling his pay. You MAKE these top level guys say yes. You don't go from Jon Gruden to Charlie Strong, Larry Fedora, and Al Golden. And that's nothing against them because I think they are all good football coaches, and COULD all become successful somewhere in the future, but they are all risks, and could all put us right back where we are right now. Go get Chris Peterson, and KNOW Tennessee football will be back. Go get Charlie Strong, and HOPE that Tennessee football will be back.

Never got to that point so no one knows what he would have been offered

 

[vols-1]

And my point isn't that it has to be Peterson or Patterson, just go get a BIG name with that $5 million. Get SOMEBODY that will NOT fail.

Like Petrino and Tressel:hi:

Folks need the realize no BIG NAME is leaving a current BCS conference team for a dumster fire, even if the coach gets a one million dollar raise.

 

[msanford52]

Maybe I'm crazy but I'd offer Saban in the ballpark of 10 per and give him around 7 for assistants. He doesn't really have any loyalty to anybody. He is kinda like a mercenary. On top of that, the success he brings pays for his massive salary. I'd say screw it and go for it.

I almost spit my beer out LMFAO you are right I said tonight after the seccg make him the first coach with a champ at 3 different schools definately no loyalty he jumped from LSu to bama no problem haters will hate but after a couple good years and a NC or 2 everyone will forget then he will leave or maybe retire by that time.

 

[globadoc]

So everyone agrees that we were going to pay Gruden at least $5 million if he came here... So my question then is WHY did we go straight from him to guys that we will pay around 2.5-3 million? Not getting Gruden doesn't mean we can no longer spend big money to get a BIG name. If I'm Dave Hart I go to every under paid big name out there and ask to make them the highest paid coach in college football. If we threw $5 - $6 million at Stoops, (not big raise for him), i'd throw $4-5 million at Peterson or Patterson, (preferably CP) and if the others fell through, they'd be here. Are they worth that? Maybe not.. But we NEED them that badly. Peterson is making under $1.8 million at Boise. That's over doubling his pay. You MAKE these top level guys say yes. You don't go from Jon Gruden to Charlie Strong, Larry Fedora, and Al Golden. And that's nothing against them because I think they are all good football coaches, and COULD all become successful somewhere in the future, but they are all risks, and could all put us right back where we are right now. Go get Chris Peterson, and KNOW Tennessee football will be back. Go get Charlie Strong, and HOPE that Tennessee football will be back.

With due respect, there aren't a lot of really great coaches that we could legitimately expect to leave their current job to come up to the Hill. We have reached out to several top coaches, with a few being "in play" for the gig. Gundy, Fisher, and even Strong and Golden are rumored to be interested and are considered to be good coaches. (See here and this weird list here and perhaps even the odd list here.) Fedora isn't on the list, but he certainly looks like a winner. Who else do you want us to go after? Mack Brown? Bill Snyder? Chip Kelly? Saban, Miles, Meyer, Muschamp, et cetera just ain't coming. Peterson will not move anywhere that doesn't have adequate medical care for his son (but Arky has a medical school with a cancer research center - hint, hint). Patterson, Dantonio, Fitzgerald, and a host of others apparently do not want to move.

Come on, my Big Orange brothers and sisters! Let's all just calm down and let's see how it plays out. Regardless, we all know that it darn sure will be a significant upgrade from this year, regardless of who shows up to wear the headset.

 

[msanford52]

Like Petrino and Tressel:hi:

Folks need the realize no BIG NAME is leaving a current BCS conference team for a dumster fire, even if the coach gets a one million dollar raise.

I dont agree with Petrino, Tressel yeah I would say go for it. Next year is a bust more than likely anyway. Serve his time then turn UT into OSU back on top. Bama wouldn't be going to the bcscg if OSU wasn't under sanctions Tressel built that program Meyer just kept it going.