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Co. Aytch

Co. Aytch

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I just recently found out that the "Catching Hell" story of the 2003 NLCS game 6 with Steve Bartman is finally going to be shown this fall.

Has anyone found out if Bartman agreed to give an interview for the documentary??

If he was ever going to give one, this would be the best way he could ever do it.
 
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People that blamed that guy for the Cubs losing that series are the worst kinds of people. You know whose fault it was for losing that series? The ****ty Cubs and their inability to not give up, what, eight runs after he touched a damn foul ball? Hell, then they had to go on and choke away game 7. Bottom line, the Cubs were choke artists before Steve Bartman, and they were choke artists when Bartman happened, and they will continue to be choke artists.
 
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I like how no one ever mentions all the people around him who were also reaching for the ball.

Moises Alou created the hate for Bartman by having a temper tantrum at the end of that play.
 
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Jestes311 said:
I like how no one ever mentions all the people around him who were also reaching for the ball.

Moises Alou created the hate for Bartman by having a temper tantrum at the end of that play.
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His reaction wasn't too far out of line, considering the situation. The idiot Cubs fans that can't seem to understand that their team is simply a loser created all the drama in the days after.
 
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emainvol said:
His reaction wasn't too far out of line, considering the situation. The idiot Cubs fans that can't seem to understand that their team is simply a loser created all the drama in the days after.
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I believe if Alou had just walked back to left field like any other normal foul ball nothing much would have ever come from it. The fans wouldn't have thrown beer on him, the Broadcasters wouldn't have mentioned it more than once or twice more.
 
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Jestes311 said:
I believe if Alou had just walked back to left field like any other normal foul ball nothing much would have ever come from it. The fans wouldn't have thrown beer on him, the Broadcasters wouldn't have mentioned it more than once or twice more.
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You are probably right, but he had the right to be angry, I would have been.
 
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Bartman being the fall guy goes to show you the presence of mind that Cub's fans have. There were at least 4 other people occupying that space that could have easily been "at fault" for the demise of the lovable losers.
 
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emainvol said:
You are probably right, but he had the right to be angry, I would have been.
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Yeah, I know.

My point is more that it's not that Bartman is a raging idiot as the Cub fans believe....all the people to his right, to his left, behind him, etc were all reaching for that ball as well. Could have easily been any of them. Never made sense, I always thought Alou caused all of it.
 
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Also, Alex Gonzalez booting the ground ball to short on the next play was way more costly.

I really liked that Marlins team. <--- rpl
 
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one of the worst nights of my life. unbelievable how everything went down; from Bartman somehow being the fall guy to the sure handed Alex Gonzalez muffing the inning ending DP.

in the days that followed it was easy for Cubs fans to blame him, but everybody pretty much realizes what really happened these days.

who is the director?
 
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Alou had the right to be pissed on just that one play, but my Cubbies were still the ones who choked away the series.
 
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doozer said:
one of the worst nights of my life. unbelievable how everything went down; from Bartman somehow being the fall guy to the sure handed Alex Gonzalez muffing the inning ending DP.

in the days that followed it was easy for Cubs fans to blame him, but everybody pretty much realizes what really happened these days.

who is the director?
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The Alex Gonzalez play was mind boggling.
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it's actually my fault.

i had just got off work when the game started so i decided to watch game there, at the bar. i couldn't bring myself to leave until i felt like the game was in hand. i leave and by the time i get home it had all gone to hell. i didn't see any of it. had i not left, it would have never happened i'm sure.
 
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Any Cubs fan that blames Bartman should lose their right to be a fan. Sure it was the easy thing to do. After that, they simply choked. Alex Gonzalez, the gold glove caliber shortstop, booted the next ball. They lost. Thing is, they still had another game. Wood pitched, hit a homer even, and they still lost. Idk why it is so hard for some to say the better team won.

Another story you all can make fun of besides the Cubs choking is, I cried. Seriously.
 
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That night was one of the times I was most riled up and upset as a fan of any of my teams. I was so enraged at how they choked the game away that at 11:00 at night I had to go run 4 miles just to get all the energy out of my system.
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The reaction to that incident -- given the complete choke job implosion by the team, given that all the fans in the area were reaching for the ball, given everything -- is the moment that the Cubs transformed in my mind from sympathy-worthy, lovable losers to a bitter, repellent amalgamation of team and fans that deserves its legacy of failure. Almost everyone who's a Cub showed his ass over that one.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The reaction to that incident -- given the complete choke job implosion by the team, given that all the fans in the area were reaching for the ball, given everything -- is the moment that the Cubs transformed in my mind from sympathy-worthy, lovable losers to a bitter, repellent amalgamation of team and fans that deserves its legacy of failure. Almost everyone who's a Cub showed his ass over that one.
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I used to watch the Cubs and actually felt sort of sorry for them, but I was through with them after the Bartman incident. You summed up my thoughts exactly.
 
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volsfan75 said:
I used to watch the Cubs and actually felt sort of sorry for them, but I was through with them after the Bartman incident. You summed up my thoughts exactly.
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Eight years later, I still run into Cubs fans in the bars who sneer about how Bartman The Traitor ruined everything. Bartman, the lifelong Cubs fan who was as brokenhearted as any of them; Bartman, who like every other person around him, had the tenth-of-a-second reflex to reach for the ball coming right at him. They crucified one of their own because their team choked.

So my son barely knows the rules of baseball but he already knows that the Cubs are losers. That's his standard. When he saw me angry that the Braves are choking this year away the other night, he asked me if the Braves are losing as badly as the Cubs, and I said: No, son. Nowhere near like that.
 
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