26th straight loss to top 10 team; lowest offensive output since ???

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Our losing streak to top 10 teams is the longest in the SEC.

Historically, what we saw on Saturday was every bit as bad as it looked. I went back to 2003 and could not find a worse offensive performance (total yards or yards per play). We were outgained by 431 yards; not sure when we've had a bigger differential. And Alabama rushed for 438 yards, their highest total since the Tennessee game in 1986. Like Butch Jones said, "We pride ourselves in stopping the run, and that’s unacceptable." Even though we've been decimated by injuries, our backups shouldn't have given up more yards on the ground than the likes of Western Kentucky and Kent State, IMO.

More randomness...

* Unsurprisingly, our SOS ranks pretty high: 7th per The Power Rank's Ed Feng, 6th per teamrankings.com and 2nd per Jeff Sagarin.

* When you look at our overall stats, it's a wonder we're 5-2 and still ranked in the top 20: 80th in total offense, 93rd in yards per rush, 88th in total defense, 82nd in turnover margin. Our running game's per-carry average (3.98) is almost a full yard below the rest of the SEC cumulatively (4.88). Of course, the preceding point about SOS has been a factor.

* Our yards-per-play margin, a good indicator of the relative strength of a team, is in negative territory (-0.37). In an individual game, a team with a 0.0 margin wins 50% of the time.

* It gets bandied about a lot, but our screen passes are the worst executed I've seen from any team in the past few years.

I don't analyze film so I don't know if we're telegraphing these completely wasted downs, but it sure appears to be the case when the defender-in-waiting swallows our receiver for a loss 2-3 times a game. We seemingly never have a blocker in front of the receiver on these plays; why not?

It baffles me to think that our offensive brain trust dissects our game film diligently, poring over every play again and again...and then after seeing what's not working, calls for the same play again and again. And for a fan, few other things are as maddening.

* I believe we started last season as the most-crippled team in college football in terms of players out with injuries. That wasn't the case this fall but we're now back at or near the top in a category no team wants to lead in. To me, that screams loud & clear that something ain't right about something we're doing -- and it needs to be identified & fixed. IMO, two years of this in a row indicate something other than bad luck on the injury front.
 
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Last years team was better in every facet of the game yet this team has a better record. If you take the heart of team 120 and combine it with the performance of team 119 we would've made the playoff last year.
 
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Another year or two of Saturday results and Butch will be looking for employment. The new AD will have his/her chance to make "The Call".
 
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We lost in double OT to A&M and took a whoopin' from the #1 team in the country. Take a breath and get a grip. Please.
 
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A&M loss was a tragic event...that should NOT have happened. Win that game, as Tennessee SHOULD have...and the drubbing by Bama does not hurt as bad.
 
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We lost in double OT to A&M and took a whoopin' from the #1 team in the country. Take a breath and get a grip. Please.

But you minimize things so much. Sure, that's what the win loss columns say, but the reality is that Bama could have beaten us by 70 if they played the 4th quarter. We should have easily won the A&M game if we didn't give the ball away 7 times. We won on a hail Mary after getting burned badly by Georgia. The same Georgia team that just lost to Vandy. We nearly got beaten by App. State, but again were saved by a miracle fumble recovery.

We are so so close to being a 4 loss team right now. Just like last year we were so close to winning. Last year in my opinion was a much better team.
 
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We lost in double OT to A&M and took a whoopin' from the #1 team in the country. Take a breath and get a grip. Please.

Agree completely. Without the injuries we beat A&M and lose by 7-14 to Alabama. Yes, there are things that can be done better, but as cliche as it sounds this is a process and we're gradually improving. As long as the trajectory is right, I'm fine.
 
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Agree completely. Without the injuries we beat A&M and lose by 7-14 to Alabama. Yes, there are things that can be done better, but as cliche as it sounds this is a process and we're gradually improving. As long as the trajectory is right, I'm fine.

I'd say the aTm game had more to do with the 7 TOs than the injuries but maybe that's just me.
 
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We sure beat the snot out of App state too. What a statement win that was

Wow, people sure do know how to hang themselves with the past. No matter how much *****ing and moaning you do about it, it's not going to change the score. Move on. We have a lot of football left to be played, we have 2 weeks to lick our wounds and get ready for the South Carolina Muschumps. We can talk all day about ifs and buts, but if they were candy and nuts I'd be a fat, happy man right now. It just completely baffles me that some people are still stuck in week 1.
 
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But you minimize things so much. Sure, that's what the win loss columns say, but the reality is that Bama could have beaten us by 70 if they played the 4th quarter. We should have easily won the A&M game if we didn't give the ball away 7 times. We won on a hail Mary after getting burned badly by Georgia. The same Georgia team that just lost to Vandy. We nearly got beaten by App. State, but again were saved by a miracle fumble recovery.

We are so so close to being a 4 loss team right now. Just like last year we were so close to winning. Last year in my opinion was a much better team.

ain't this the truth...
 
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I crunched some numbers on our historical results against top 10 teams. I began in the 50s with results coming from games in which our opponent was ranked top ten at the time we played them. Ties are noted but not used in percentage.

Years. W-L-T. Win %
50-59. 8-7-1. .5334
60-69. 5-14-1. .2632
70-79. 3-11. .2143
80-89. 6-11-2. .3530
90-99. 11-13-2. .4584
00-09. 5-18. .2174
10-16. 0-20. .0000
 
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We lost in double OT to A&M and took a whoopin' from the #1 team in the country. Take a breath and get a grip. Please.[/QUOTE

Throw in should have been losses to App.St and GA and we are 3-4. We had no business winning either of those 2 games.
 
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But you minimize things so much. Sure, that's what the win loss columns say, but the reality is that Bama could have beaten us by 70 if they played the 4th quarter. We should have easily won the A&M game if we didn't give the ball away 7 times. We won on a hail Mary after getting burned badly by Georgia. The same Georgia team that just lost to Vandy. We nearly got beaten by App. State, but again were saved by a miracle fumble recovery.

We are so so close to being a 4 loss team right now. Just like last year we were so close to winning. Last year in my opinion was a much better team.
revisionist history. you were probably also clamoring for Butch's head for not being able to win those games. and this year you're clamoring for it again for the games being too close, or "loseable", if that's a word.

you can't have it both ways. all that does is prove that you only care about YOUR agenda.

the reality is there's not much difference in this year's team vs. last year's team, except:
Dobbs and the passing game (WR's playing, relative to 119, better) is better than last year
the run game is not as good as last year, in total.
penalty/ball security discipline is not as good as last year
O line is about the same
secondary is about the same
special teams is about the same, save no big splash returns
lb's are worse (primarily due to attrition)
Dline is better
coaching is about the same
culture is the same, though you could argue it's better given the way we've had to come back in games this year.

game changing plays, definitely better than last year....and imo, the single biggest reason we're 5-2 vs. 4-3 or 3-4, like last year.

ignoring the injuries is entirely up to you, but they did happen, they do affect how you go about things game to game, especially in the quantity, and quality, of players to go down. in all respects, we very well could be 6-1 if you want to play that game.


bottom line is, just like last year, if "if's and but's" were candy and nuts.....

we finally have some positive results to go along with all the fluff. and there are bigger results still to be had.

don't write it all of right now because we lost to Bama. everyone has lost to Bama....that's not a mortal sin.

lose one of the next 5....and we're approaching that....but let's cross that bridge if we get to it.
 
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I crunched some numbers on our historical results against top 10 teams. I began in the 50s with results coming from games in which our opponent was ranked top ten at the time we played them. Ties are noted but not used in percentage.

Years. W-L-T. Win %
50-59. 8-7-1. .5334
60-69. 5-14-1. .2632
70-79. 3-11. .2143
80-89. 6-11-2. .3530
90-99. 11-13-2. .4584
00-09. 5-18. .2174
10-16. 0-20. .0000

Careful there.......your statistics come dangerously close to proving what a disaster firing Coach Fulmer was.:popcorn:
 
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But you minimize things so much. Sure, that's what the win loss columns say, but the reality is that Bama could have beaten us by 70 if they played the 4th quarter. We should have easily won the A&M game if we didn't give the ball away 7 times. We won on a hail Mary after getting burned badly by Georgia. The same Georgia team that just lost to Vandy. We nearly got beaten by App. State, but again were saved by a miracle fumble recovery.

We are so so close to being a 4 loss team right now. Just like last year we were so close to winning. Last year in my opinion was a much better team.
The same could be said of 90% of college teams facing Bama.
 
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