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| Player / School / Hometown / Pos | Ht | Ratings / Rankings | Quick Read / Tennessee Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| Kaleena Smith; Ontario Christian — Ontario, CA; PG | 5-6 | 247Sports: #1; espnW: #1 | Elite scoring/playmaking point guard and USA U18 gold medalist. Tennessee unofficial visit: Oct. 13, 2025; Tennessee home visit reported Sept. 22, 2026; official visit rescheduled for Oct. 16–18, Alabama weekend. |
| Qandace Samuels; Bishop McNamara — Forestville, MD; G/W | 6-2 | 247Sports: #13; espnW: #10 | Top-10 wing with perimeter shooting, scoring off the bounce and contact-finishing ability. Tennessee remains in her top 10. Reported September officials: Virginia Tech, Texas and Rutgers; NC State coach Wes Moore was also reported in her gym. No Tennessee visit date is public. |
| Taylor Brown; Long Island Lutheran — Glen Head, NY; PG | 5-7 | 247Sports: #24; espnW: #30 | Fast two-way guard known as “The Glove”; recovering from a February ACL tear. Tennessee official visit: June 25–26; South Carolina: Sept. 19 weekend; North Carolina: Oct. 3. Finalists are Tennessee, South Carolina and North Carolina. Decision announcement: Oct. 3, the same date as the UNC visit. |
| Maci Pringle; Flower Mound — Flower Mound, TX; F | 6-1 | espnW: #33; 247Sports: not listed | Athletic forward with speed and scoring production. Dallas Morning News All-Area Player of the Year; led Flower Mound to its first state final and set the school season scoring record. Texas Tech remained involved after a summer visit. No Tennessee official-visit date is public. |
| C'India “Cece” Dennis; Creekside — Fairburn, GA; PG | 5-6 | 247Sports: #17; espnW: #54 | Quick guard with range, downhill ability and strong defensive effort. Tennessee official visit completed Sept. 4–6. Top five: Tennessee, Florida State, Auburn, Georgia and Clemson. Recovering from a November 2025 knee injury. |
| Amaya Manuel; Lift for Life Academy — St. Louis, MO; PG | 5-7 (listed 5-8 by Rivals) | Prep Girls Hoops: #31 nationally; ESPN: no ranking shown | Four-star point guard with excellent ballhandling, defensive ability, high basketball IQ and a willingness to attack the basket. Missouri Class 5 Player of the Year in 2025; Lift for Life won three consecutive state titles. Tennessee previously offered her. Visit scheduled for Oct. 27 during the exhibition game; visit type not specified. |
Unless she is cancelling her UNC visit, a Saturday announcement would indicate that she plans to be a Tarheel.
. I mean, who would announce a commitment to another school while on an an OV?
100% agree about the big turn around and happy campers, and of the two, happy campers may be more important. Paige Dauer talked about the importance of making TN a destination school again. Our history surely helps, though it is becoming ancient history in modern bb terms. Our last championship was 2008 -- let's just round that to two decades. Or, before any of the 2027 prospects were born. We went to the Elite 8 five times in six years, 2011-2016. Haven't been back. Three schools have been to the Elite 8 at least five times in the last six years -- South Carolina is 6-6, UConn 5-6, and, wait for it... Louisville, missing last year.A big turn around with lots of happy campers within this SYSTEM would sure help. The fact we are on some of these short lists is great
TL;DR… i keed, i keed…100% agree about the big turn around and happy campers, and of the two, happy campers may be more important. Paige Dauer talked about the importance of making TN a destination school again. Our history surely helps, though it is becoming ancient history in modern bb terms. Our last championship was 2008 -- let's just round that to two decades. Or, before any of the 2027 prospects were born. We went to the Elite 8 five times in six years, 2011-2016. Haven't been back. Three schools have been to the Elite 8 at least five times in the last six years -- South Carolina is 6-6, UConn 5-6, and, wait for it... Louisville, missing last year.
Is that a reasonable standard to shoot for going forward? Depends on how much you think the women's game is improving. NO men's team has a 5-6 Elite 8 showing in the last five years -- the best is 3-6, which 5 teams have done, including Rick Barnes' last three squads. I know parity has improved in the wbb over the last few decades; I don't have a good handle on how fast it is changing. As a comparison, 7 women's teams have made the Elite 8 in 3 of the last six years (five are on our schedule). (LSU is 2-3 due to Duke's buzzer beater last year. And they have a 2023 Natty.)
Maybe a 50% rate of Elite 8's (a little less with a recent Natty) is a good performance standard for "destination programs" now. Does that mean I'm looking for an Elite 8 this year? No. I've seen the arguments as to whether this team is more talented that Kim's 2024-25 squad, and points can be made on both sides. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER. I'm waiting for performance. I will say this, if Kim can go from last years disaster to an Elite 8 appearance, I'd predict a good argument could be made for her as SEC Coach of the Year. That would be quite an accomplishment! But I think she might get a big-enough turn around with less than an Elite 8 NCAA tournament result. Overall record, SEC record, SEC Tournament, NCAA tournament -- they will all factor in.
But, however we define "a big turnaround" -- it's not enough. "Happy campers" is the other key ingredient in becoming a destination school, though maybe "happy" isn't the right word. Certainly, there were a LOT of times when players, even teams, under Pat weren't "happy" -- even some who are true LVFLs and still revere Pat. But there is clearly an attitudinal component, a system of beliefs and feelings about the program that are important. What is it that we're really looking for here? For Kim, I'm going to call it the Four Cs.
Committed: Players have to be committed to playing Kim Ball. I know there are those who think there's no way Kim Ball can win, but it's crystal clear that Kim has moved past whatever waffling she did last year. Thank goodness. That was ugly. Go big or go... somewhere else. That's what faces Kim and she seems to have embraced it. And, from everything I can tell, she's brought in a group of players that not only say they embrace it, their play styles and skill sets suggest they could truly want to play Kim Ball. So far, what we've heard out of practice sounds good on this score, much better than last year. I'm going to give Kim an "A" on this at this point. We'll see where we are at the end.
Challenged: Elite players want to feel challenged in ways that push them to grow. Here, I look to the consistent comments from players about how upfront and clear Kim was with them about what would be involved in playing for this team. And, again, words out of practice seem to back this up. No 'I went easier on this team" from Kim. Instead, she's talked about getting more of her system in place (another difference from last year). I don't think Kim has ever had a problem challenging herself or her players. She just seems to be that kind of person. Kim's carrying an "A" grade so far on this component, too.
Cared for: This is the flip side of challenge. Personal support for each player. This is Pat having lunch with Candace regularly during her freshman year as she rehabbed. Kim has said she has never, before last year, had a problem getting players to run through walls for her. But she also has talked about how much her mother was a part of team bonding at Glenville State. Plus she had her dad there for a while. To me, this doesn't seem to be as natural a part of Kim as the '"challenge" component. I admit, I'm operating off scant evidence here. Also, "cared for" doesn't aways have to come from the head coach alone (though I think there has to be some). I always had the feeling that Holly brought a lot of this to Pat's teams and that she had a hard time trying to fill Pat's shoes at least partially because there was a large mismatch in her style and what she had seen modeled for so many years. Anyway, not much evidence here. I'd love to see an interview with Avery Mills, or something from her social media. She seems to have a great personal attitude, but is she getting that "cared for" aspect? I had the feeling that Jaida Civil might have stayed if she had had just a bit closer relationship with Kim last year. And it wasn't Kim that went to see Oliviyah Edwards to reassure her when things got shaky last season. The strongest point in Kim's favor on this right now is Zee Spearman's mom hugging Kim and saying "She made it!" when Zee graduated. Right now, I'm giving Kim's performance (including what she's gotten out of her staff) a "C" so far for this component.
Cohesive: The team has to play together. Kim's system demands it. The 24-25 team seemed to have this, though with a hiccup at the end, but they pulled it together in the big dance to beat Ohio State on their home floor and take Texas to the wire for a shot at the Elite 8. Again, Kim and her staff did an amazing job in digging out of a big hole with this recruiting/portal class. It's really hard to rate cohesion based on what we've seen out of practice. There were smiles and hugs and enthusiasm this time last year. Kim gets an "Incomplete" for this season, and a "C+" for the last two years.
Maybe I could circle back to the beginning of this post and add one more "C."
Championships: Ultimately, for players, fans, and Kim's career, she's got to have her teams at least in the hunt for championships, or Tennessee won't regain the type of "destination school" status it once enjoyed.
Looking forward to seeing how Kim, her staff, and this team do on these dimensions this year. Go Big Orange!
The power of the pen. Hard to lie to yourself or maintain a narrative if your intentions are centered and wholesome. I seem to get hung up by getting an untimely refresh when i get off on a good rant.Got to admit, I find I often think things through by writing. Figure people can always just DR if TL!
Always a little suspicious of Youtube highlights (competition, edited for best, etc.), but I watched a few on Quandace Samuels and really liked what I saw -- frame, movement, some evidence of court awareness and passing. Unfortunately, I don't see any indication we are anything other than "in her top 10."It would be nice to get a player over 6;1....
Brown is not at UNC today. She visited them previously. She is announcing at 2 today.Always a little suspicious of Youtube highlights (competition, edited for best, etc.), but I watched a few on Quandace Samuels and really liked what I saw -- frame, movement, some evidence of court awareness and passing. Unfortunately, I don't see any indication we are anything other than "in her top 10."
I'm thinking Kim Ball may find its best taller prospects based on a love for chaos, for running, for shooting the 3 and faking the 3 to drive past defenders. High activity, high motor, with the court savvy and foot speed to read and react. I can imagine a pitch that goes, "You'll get to do more of what you do uniquely well in this system than anywhere else in the country." (If successful, that definitely helps create a "destination school" -- a unique identity that offers unusual opportunities to the very best.)
It's year three guys. Time to internalize the parameters of the program. Counterintuitive to everything we've ever known about basketball, Kim Caldwell thinks height doesn't matter. Or if it does, it's somewhere way down the list.It would be nice to get a player over 6;1....
Agree. Just getting on the list for some players in the top 20, let alone the very top, is quite an accomplishmentCall me impressed that we are actually on some of these short list. After the season we had last year, I wasn't expecting much from hs recruiting this season.
Call me impressed that we are actually on some of these short list. After the season we had last year, I wasn't expecting much from hs recruiting this season. Even if we don't land any, I feel the program is getting it's footing back.
I believe there's an element to this system where players don't actually know what it's going to be like until they play it competitively. None of these kids have ever played in two minute spurts, nor been asked to press and trap bigger, stronger more talented players relentlessly even when it's not working. I don't believe a practice environment can simulate any of that accurately.Committed: Players have to be committed to playing Kim Ball. I know there are those who think there's no way Kim Ball can win, but it's crystal clear that Kim has moved past whatever waffling she did last year. Thank goodness. That was ugly. Go big or go... somewhere else. That's what faces Kim and she seems to have embraced it. And, from everything I can tell, she's brought in a group of players that not only say they embrace it, their play styles and skill sets suggest they could truly want to play Kim Ball. So far, what we've heard out of practice sounds good on this score, much better than last year. I'm going to give Kim an "A" on this at this point. We'll see where we are at the end.
I could be wrong. but I don't think very much of recruiting is driven by our historical status at all. It was before the recruits were born and young people just don't think that way. If anything related, it's the incredible facilities and environment that the history has enabled.Not a clue for each of these how much is driven by historical program status
I could be wrong. but I don't think very much of recruiting is driven by our historical status at all. It was before the recruits were born and young people just don't think that way. If anything related, it's the incredible facilities and environment that the history has enabled.
