2022 NBA Draft and Offseason Thread

#51
#51
95 Vol Alum said:
This is not surprising to me at all. Most players aren't elite enough to get a 2nd contract with small market teams and, as Mojo pointed out, big market teams are likely to package you to get a star on the roster.
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But why would you need to be elite to get a 2nd contract? What about just being wanted?
 
#52
#52
n_huffhines said:
But why would you need to be elite to get a 2nd contract? What about just being wanted?
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I assume that teams decide to pay a lower price by going back to the draft and hope they hit even bigger. Idk - just didn't seem that surprising to me. Particularly given the amount of player movement in the league.
 
#55
#55
Problem with Spyda. He plays like a #1 but he’s not good enough to lead your team to a title as a #1…but he doesn’t seem like he can adjust to be a #2.
 
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#56
#56
zjcvols said:
Problem with Spyda. He plays like a #1 but he’s not good enough to lead your team to a title as a #1…but he doesn’t seem like he can adjust to be a #2.
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I think he can be #2 to a point forward type, like what Lebron had with Kyrie and Wade. He can't be the primary ball handler. He can't be #2 to a center or a Kawhi type because he's not a good enough setup guy. He can't be #2 to another guard because there are basically no big 2-way guards who are better than him on offense, so the back court will just get cooked.
 
#58
#58
n_huffhines said:
I think he can be #2 to a point forward type, like what Lebron had with Kyrie and Wade. He can't be the primary ball handler. He can't be #2 to a center or a Kawhi type because he's not a good enough setup guy. He can't be #2 to another guard because there are basically no big 2-way guards who are better than him on offense, so the back court will just get cooked.
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You think he could play alongside a Cade, Lamelo, Lonzo type?

Does any of them have enough assets to get it done? I'd assume Detroit might.
 
#59
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BigOrangeMojo said:
You think he could play alongside a Cade, Lamelo, Lonzo type?

Does any of them have enough assets to get it done? I'd assume Detroit might.
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Lonzo is kinda perfect because he can take the tough defensive assignment and he can be your true PG but he doesn't dominate ball. You'd definitely still need somebody at 3 or 4 who can be the go-to guy late in the game. Mitchell is great for winning playoff games by 20. You need someone else to win playoff games by a bucket.

I've heard Vucevic and P Williams for Rudy (which I hate), actually, but nothing about Mitchell. It would have to include DD, Caruso, Williams, and a few picks, I think. I would also think it means Zach Lavine is signing elsewhere?

I wonder if Jazz would do Mitchell for Bey and #5?
 
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#60
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zjcvols said:
Problem with Spyda. He plays like a #1 but he’s not good enough to lead your team to a title as a #1…but he doesn’t seem like he can adjust to be a #2.
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Problem with “spyda” is that he sucks
 
#66
#66
If true...the audacity of narrowing it down to 2 choices, as if you are a top tier superstar in the final year of your contract.

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So Huff, have the Suns passed the Jazz as your favorite team ? .......or are you more invested since you live there ?
 
#70
#70
The Dog said:
So Huff, have the Suns passed the Jazz as your favorite team ? .......or are you more invested since you live there ?
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It's complicated. I kinda liked the Suns ever since Barkley was traded here. He was my favorite player ever. I hate Suns ownership* but I love the franchise plus I live here now going on 10 years.

It's not exactly easy to follow the Jazz from here and I like their ownership but I'm not crazy about Ainge, our stars, or our fans. I'm not a lifelong Jazz fan. I moved to Utah from Tennessee in 1997 at age 15 and didn't feel like I could jump on the bandwagon. I was an NBA nomad who just followed players until around 2003. I started rooting for the Jazz when they were ******. So all that is to say I don't really have strong ties to them. It's also sort of futile being a Jazz fan. Good players don't want to go there. You never feel cool as a fan saying "I like the Jazz."

I definitely care a little more about the Suns now, and it's hard to imagine going back to Utah as my #1 because of geography.

*I hope the league makes Sarver sell.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's complicated. I kinda liked the Suns ever since Barkley was traded here. He was my favorite player ever. I hate Suns ownership* but I love the franchise plus I live here now going on 10 years.

It's not exactly easy to follow the Jazz from here and I like their ownership but I'm not crazy about Ainge, our stars, or our fans. I'm not a lifelong Jazz fan. I moved to Utah from Tennessee in 1997 at age 15 and didn't feel like I could jump on the bandwagon. I was an NBA nomad who just followed players until around 2003. I started rooting for the Jazz when they were ******. So all that is to say I don't really have strong ties to them. It's also sort of futile being a Jazz fan. Good players don't want to go there. You never feel cool as a fan saying "I like the Jazz."

I definitely care a little more about the Suns now, and it's hard to imagine going back to Utah as my #1 because of geography.

*I hope the league makes Sarver sell.
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It's been tough being a Pistons fan since '81,:except we do have 3 rings in 40+ years to the Jazz and Suns combined zero. But, the Pistons have been so bad, recently, I had to make the Clippers my 2nd team. At least, I picked another historically bad franchise. Believe it or not, I remember when they were the San Diego Clippers, with World B. Free
 
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The Dog said:
It's been tough being a Pistons fan since '81,:except we do have 3 rings in 40+ years to the Jazz and Suns combined zero. But, the Pistons have been so bad, recently, I had to make the Clippers my 2nd team. At least, I picked another historically bad franchise. Believe it or not, I remember when they were the San Diego Clippers, with World B. Free
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Pistons are doing well to aggregate assets right now, at least.
 
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#73
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The Dog said:
It's been tough being a Pistons fan since '81,:except we do have 3 rings in 40+ years to the Jazz and Suns combined zero. But, the Pistons have been so bad, recently, I had to make the Clippers my 2nd team. At least, I picked another historically bad franchise. Believe it or not, I remember when they were the San Diego Clippers, with World B. Free
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Ha. Trying being a Knicks fan, then Grizzlies 😂

At least we have Ja though, so there’s that
 
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