0-8 all time vs Number 1 seeds

#27
#27
Well I have seen us beat a #1 ranked team on the last day of the regular season in 66 when the Vols beat Rupps Runts at the ole Armory Field House.

They would have been the #1 overall seed in the Tourney but they didn't have seeding in those days. UK went on to lose to Texas El Paso in the historic final game.
 
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#28
SGMVols said:
But to do that here you will have to take money from football, which this fanbase will never accept. We don’t have enough to be top tier spenders in both.
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I don't know how much more money you need to be top tier in basketball from where UT is now, but you're talking about 5-6 guys, not a whole football team. I can't imagine you're taking too much money from football.
 
#29
#29
Everyone is missing the bigger stat in that 0-8 line...
Show of hands, how many schools have been in a position to face a 1 seed EIGHT times?

I get it and have said it for a couple of years now, there's a step we need to take, whether it be player, coach, combination, to break through that ceiling we seem to keep hitting.
I think CRB is on the trajectory...I mean it's the old 'keep almost winning and eventually you win'.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
not having to face the #1 seed in the sweet 16 makes the difference there.
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That surely accounts for some of it, but the 6 is facing chalk too and has to go through the 2 and the 3 to get to the regional final.

All of it probably just points out how random things get in the tournament. Sometimes teams overachieve. Sometimes they just catch a good matchup based on who advances. Losing 3 straight E8 games is tough, but it’s not like we’ve wet the bed against a team we should’ve beaten.
 
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GAVol said:
That surely accounts for some of it, but the 6 is facing chalk too and has to go through the 2 and the 3 to get to the regional final.

All of it probably just points out how random things get in the tournament. Sometimes teams overachieve. Sometimes they just catch a good matchup based on who advances. Losing 3 straight E8 games is tough, but it’s not like we’ve wet the bed against a team we should’ve beaten.
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to add to this, there hasn't been a #6 seed in the final 4 since 1992 BUT there have been 9 #5 seeds in the final 4 since 1996.

so if a #5 seed makes it past the #1 seed in the sweet 16, they have a much better shot of making the final 4 than a #6 seed facing a #1 seed in the elite 8.
 
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KnoxRealtorVOL said:
Is there some team out there that has a terrific record against 1-seeds?
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I mean has anyone ever been the favorite when playing #1 seeded teams, except another #1 team. I would say 99% of teams have the exact same record against #1 seeds. Half of the teams never played a #1 seed or made the tournament.
 
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Voltopia said:
This. 1 seeds win 80% of their games in the NCAA tournament. They don't tend to lose.
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#1 seeds are 27-24 vs #2 seeds in the elite 8.
So #1 seeds have about a 50/50 chance against #2s

Coach Barnes is unfortunately 0-3 in those games even though it's basically a coin flip game.
 
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GAVol said:
The one that got me was a 6 seed being 30-40% more likely than a 5 to make the Elite 8. That’s a significant deviation.
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Because a 5 seed makes you more likely to see a team like Michigan in the S16 instead of E8.
 
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SGMVols said:
But to do that here you will have to take money from football, which this fanbase will never accept. We don’t have enough to be top tier spenders in both.
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True, but it seems we're a lot closer to kicking the door down in BB than FB
 
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