Utah State opens as early Vegas favorite @Tennessee

#701
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RiseToTheTop said:
Does this chart take into account your crappy competition?
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Not at all. I said as much.

Sagarin had UT 2013 SOS at #7 and USU 2013 SOS at #74.

BTW, Sagarin had Vandy at #50 SOS and USA at #115.

You rolled both of them last year without breaking a sweat, right?
 
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ag4fr said:
Not at all. I said as much.

Sagarin had UT 2013 SOS at #7 and USU 2013 SOS at #74.

BTW, Sagarin had Vandy at #50 SOS and USA at #115.

You rolled both of them last year without breaking a sweat, right?
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What is all of this last year talk? Last time I checked, we play THIS year. Both of our teams are different this year...no?
 
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ag4fr said:
Not at all. I said as much.

Sagarin had UT 2013 SOS at #7 and USU 2013 SOS at #74.

BTW, Sagarin had Vandy at #50 SOS and USA at #115.

You rolled both of them last year without breaking a sweat, right?
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LOL you must be spending alot of time on the Colorado pot ranch to come up with these gems pard.
 
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Tennkook said:
What is all of this last year talk? Last time I checked, we play THIS year. Both of our teams are different this year...no?
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I would not expect the SOS to move much this year. Would you? I also expect the teams to perform about the same.

I'm a bit curious why so many Vol fans here think you will be much much better.

The guys that get paid to write and guess about such things are not really sold on UT making a sudden jump.

If I am wrong here show me an example of a credible sportswriter saying the Vols are going to be much better. Fifth in the SECe is about as high as I have seen anyone that knows anything place them.

I'm not a UT supporter, so I'm sure I've missed many articles. If it is out there, please share.
 
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#706
2008 -- 3-9-0 (3-5-0/7th)
Aug. 30 L 17-27 at UNLV 18,815
Sept. 6 L 24-66 at Oregon (#18) 28,060
Sept. 13 L 10-58 UTAH (#22) 19,061
Sept. 20 W 42-17 *IDAHO 10,154
Oct. 3 L 14-34 BYU (#8) 23,101
Oct. 11 L 7-30 *at San Jose State 20,318
Oct. 18 L 17-44 *at Nevada 13,159
Oct. 25 L 28-30 *FRESNO STATE 14,071
Nov. 1 W 30-14 *HAWAI’I 12,112
Nov. 8 L 14-49 *at Boise State (#9) 32,171
Nov. 15 L 38-45 *at Louisiana Tech 15,320
Nov. 29 W 47-2 *NEW MEXICO ST. 9,919

2009 -- 4-8-0 (3-5-0/T-5th)
Sept. 3 L 17-35 at Utah (#19) 45,333
Sept. 19 L 30-38 at Texas A&M 73,599
Sept. 26 W 53-34 SOUTHERN UTAH 18,472
Oct. 2 L 17-35 at BYU (#20) 64,103
Oct. 10 L 17-20 *at New Mexico St. 15,283
Oct. 17 L 32-35 *NEVADA 15,103
Oct. 24 W 23-21 *LOUISIANA TECH 14,229
Oct. 31 L 27-31 *at Fresno State 27,721
Nov. 7 L 36-49 *at Hawai‘i 31,499
Nov. 14 W 24-9 *SAN JOSE STATE 13,276
Nov. 20 L 21-53 *BOISE STATE (#6) 18,777
Nov. 28 W 52-49 *at Idaho 8,532

2010 -- 4-8-0 (2-6-0/7th)
Sept. 4 L 24-31 at Oklahoma (#7) 85,151
Sept. 11 W 38-17 IDAHO STATE 18,347
Sept. 18 L 24-41 *FRESNO STATE 19,059
Sept. 25 L 7-41 at San Diego St. 45,682
Oct. 1 W 31-16 BYU 24,152
Oct. 19 L 6-24 *at Louisiana Tech 16,073
Oct. 23 L 7-45 *HAWAI‘I 17,111
Oct. 30 L 42-56 *at Nevada 11,558
Nov. 6 W 27-22 *NEW MEXICO ST. 14,524
Nov. 13 W 38-34 *at San Jose State 12,239
Nov. 20 L 6-28 *IDAHO 14,072
Dec. 4 L 14-50 *at Boise State (#9) 32,101

2011 -- 7-6-0 (5-2-0/2nd)
Sept. 3 L 38-42 at Auburn (#19) 82,245
Sept. 10 W 54-17 WEBER STATE 18,239
Sept. 24 L 34-35 ** COLORADO ST. (2ot) 22,559
Sept. 30 L 24-27 at BYU 63,513
Oct. 8 W 63-19 WYOMING 17,561
Oct. 15 L 21-31 *at Fresno State 28,854
Oct. 22 L 17-24 *LOUISIANA TECH 16,037
Nov. 5 W 35-31 *at Hawai’i 30,301
Nov. 12 W 34-33 *SAN JOSE STATE 14,593
Nov. 19 W 49-42** *at Idaho (2ot) 8,216
Nov. 26 W 21-17 *NEVADA 15,784
Dec. 3 W 24-21 *at New Mexico St. 13,361
Dec. 17 L 23-24 vs. Ohio 28,076 (Famous Idaho Potato Bowl, Boise, Idaho)

2012 -- 11-2-0 (6-0-0/1st)
Aug. 30 W 34-3 SOUTHERN UTAH 17,009
Sept. 7 W 27-20* UTAH (ot) 25,513
Sept. 15 L 14-16 at Wisconsin (#22) 79,332
Sept. 22 W 31-19 at Colorado State 23,374
Sept. 29 W 35-13 UNLV 24,226
Oct. 5 L 3-6 at BYU 63,086
Oct. 13 W 49-27 *at San Jose State 15,168
Oct. 20 W 41-7 *NEW MEXICO ST. 17,001
Oct. 27 W 48-17 *at UTSA 23,519
Nov. 3 W 38-7 *TEXAS STATE 17,222
Nov. 17 W 48-41* *at LA. Tech (#19) (ot) 25,614
Nov. 24 W 45-9 *IDAHO 19,350
Dec. 15 W 41-15 vs. Toledo 29,243 (Famous Idaho Potato Bowl, Boise, Idaho)

Big win over #19 there!

How have the Utah Aggies done against top 20 competition in say the last 20 years?

Nov. 12, 1994 RV L 28-56 at Nevada
Sept. 16, 1995 RV L 21-24 at So. Mississippi
Aug. 31, 1996 RV W 20-17 UTAH
Sept. 28, 1996 RV L 20-58 at Texas Tech
Oct. 4, 1996 21st L 17-45 BYU
Aug. 30, 1997 RV W 21-17 at Utah
Sept. 13, 1997 25th L 24-35 COLORADO STATE
Oct. 3, 1997 24th L 35-42 at Brigham Young
Oct. 11, 1997 RV L 16-24 at Oregon State
Sept. 19, 1998 15th L 6-25 at Colorado
Oct. 10, 1998 RV L 12-53 at Washington
Sept. 4, 1999 12th L 7-38 at Georgia
Sept. 18, 1999 RV L 18-38 at Utah
Oct. 1, 1999 RV L 31-34 OT BYU
Oct. 16, 1999 9th L 0-40 at Kansas State
Sept. 2, 2000 RV L 16-38 at Texas Tech
Sept. 23, 2000 RV L 20-44 at Arizona State
Sept. 8, 2001 13th L 14-31 at LSU
Sept. 29, 2001 6th L 21-38 OREGON
Oct. 5, 2001 18th L 34-54 at Brigham Young
Dec. 1, 2001 21st L 21-70 at Fresno State
Sept. 7, 2002 9th L 13-44 at Nebraska
Sept. 6, 2003 23rd L 7-31 at Nebraska
Sept. 13, 2003 16th L 16-26 at Arizona State
Sept. 18, 2004 15th L 6-48 UTAH
Sept. 10, 2005 RV L 7-31 at Utah
Oct. 15, 2005 RV L 21-53 at Fresno State
Oct. 29, 2005 5th L 3-35 at Alabama
Nov. 4, 2006 RV L 10-63 HAWAI’I
Nov. 18, 2006 13th L 10-49 at Boise State
Sept. 15, 2007 3rd L 3-54 at Oklahoma
Oct. 6, 2007 16th L 37-52 at Hawai’i
Nov. 10, 2007 19th L 0-52 BOISE STATE
Sept. 6, 2008 18th L 24-66 at Oregon
Sept. 13, 2008 22nd L 10-58 UTAH
Oct. 3, 2008 8th L 14-34 BYU
Nov. 8, 2008 9th L 14-49 BOISE STATE
Sept. 3, 2009 19th L 17-35 at Utah
Oct. 2, 2009 20th L 17-35 at BYU
Nov. 20, 2009 6th L 21-53 BOISE STATE
Sept. 4, 2010 7th L 24-31 at Oklahoma
Oct. 30, 2010 RV L 42-56 at Nevada
Dec. 4, 2010 9th L 14-50 at Boise State
Sept. 3, 2011 23rd L 38-42 at Auburn
Sept. 15, 2012 RV L 14-16 at Wisconsin
Nov. 17, 2012 19th W 48-41 OT at Louisiana Tech

Gotta love how they tout RV's in their poll history.

UTAH STATE IN THE ASSOCIATED PRESS POLL
(Since 1957)
Date Rank Result Opponent
Oct. 31, 1960 18th W 17-13 WYOMING
Nov. 7, 1960 19th W 45-6 at Pacific
Sept. 25, 1961 RV W 34-14 at Washington St.
Oct. 2, 1961 RV T 6-6 at Wyoming
Oct. 16, 1961 RV W 49-3 at Colorado State
Oct. 23, 1961 RV W 69-0 IDAHO
Oct. 30, 1961 RV W 31-8 at Brigham Young
Nov. 6, 1961 RV W 65-22 at W. Michigan
Nov. 13, 1961 RV W 17-6 at Utah
Nov. 20, 1961 RV Did Not Play
Nov. 27, 1961 RV Did Not Play
*Dec. 4, 1961 10th L 9-24 #vs. Baylor
Preseason, 1962 RV W 29-18 at San Jose State
Preseason, 1962 RV W 45-7 at Idaho
Oct. 8, 1962 RV L 13-14 at New Mexico
Oct. 12, 1964 RV W 14-3 at New Mexico
Oct. 18, 1965 RV W 41-20 at Colorado State
Oct. 25, 1965 RV W 34-21 BYU
Nov. 1, 1965 RV L 0-7 at Memphis
Nov. 8, 1965 RV L 19-21 at Wichita State
Preseason, 1966 RV L 8-17 at New Mexico
Nov. 4, 2012 RV Did Not Play
Nov. 11, 2012 RV W, 48-41 OT at Louisiana Tech
Nov. 18, 2012 25th W, 45-9 IDAHO
Nov. 25, 2012 20th Did Not Play
Dec. 2, 2012 18th W, 41-15 &vs. Toledo
*Jan. 8, 2013 16th Did Not Play
 
#707
#707
ag4fr said:
I'm a bit curious why so many Vol fans here think you will be much much.
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You act like they have to be much better to beat USU.

Second year in the system, continuity of the staff, healthy QB's, healthy Maggit, 14 EE's, Von Pearson showing out early on, improving speed everywhere, AJ Johnson returning, capable TE's coming in, etc.

They'll be better. I don't see why that's hard to understand. Before you start making assumptions, "better" is 6-6 and a bowl win.
 
#709
#709
We're picked 32 preseason. With as many question marks as we have and the last few seasons, I'd say some of the "experts" are buying in.

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1383252.html
 
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#711
#711
Look cheif when your team beats somebody other than New Mexico St and UNLV give us a holler. If you really are a true fan of the Utes then go back beyond the last two years and look and your record. You play in a weak conference, if Kentucky was in that conference they would be undefeted every year. You keep talking about or record for the past three years, yeah it sucked but look beyond that we will get better you will go back to 2-10. See ya
 
#712
#712
cooterbob said:
Look cheif when your team beats somebody other than New Mexico St and UNLV give us a holler. If you really are a true fan of the Utes then go back beyond the last two years and look and your record. You play in a weak conference, if Kentucky was in that conference they would be undefeted every year. You keep talking about or record for the past three years, yeah it sucked but look beyond that we will get better you will go back to 2-10. See ya
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UT hasn't won a bowl game in six years, and we've had four 5-7 seasons, not to mention several winning streaks against weaker SEC opponents ended.

Fact of the matter is we suck and USU has done fairly good recently for a team that has normally been terrible.
 
#713
#713
ChattaVoll said:
UT hasn't won a bowl game in six years, and we've had four 5-7 seasons, not to mention several winning streaks against weaker SEC opponents ended.

Fact of the matter is we suck and USU has done fairly good recently for a team that has normally been terrible.
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C'mon ChattaVoll... where are your orange colored glasses?
 
#715
#715
Fact of the matter is we suck and USU has done fairly good recently for a team that has normally been terrible.[/QUOTE]

Your right what was I thinking trying to be a Vol fan. Why dont we all just pull for the Utes. Or why don't you move to Utah get ten wifes and pull on your ute.
 
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ag4fr said:
Yeah. We might do worse than 5-7. But not by much.

The SEC portion of the schedule is a doozey! The OOC? Not so much...

Austin Peay/Western Necktuky/South Alabama/Georgia State/Akron/Troy/Buffalo/MUTS are not exactly an all-star line-up.
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Fact is, adding USU to that lineup won't drive our OOC "difficulty" rating up one bit.

That's why we play the Oregon's and the Oklahoma's.

And, of course, an SEC schedule.

Kinda funny, really...to you, the UT game is a big deal. To us, you're just another opening win against an overrated "buy a vowel conference" mid-pack team with a Napolean complex.

You should be nicer to UT fans; they're the ones who bought tickets so the UTAD could write your AD a nice check for that trip east to get thumped.

Go Vols.
 
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#717
#717
ChattaVoll said:
UT hasn't won a bowl game in six years, and we've had four 5-7 seasons, not to mention several winning streaks against weaker SEC opponents ended.

Fact of the matter is we suck and USU has done fairly good recently for a team that has normally been terrible.
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Hey Chatta, everybody on here knows this. We know we've been at the lowest point in program history since the 1920's thanks to any awful AD and 2 historically bad HC hires. Nobody on here is predicting more than 5-7 wins that I've seen.

The point is, we don't need some pos prick from an historically irrelevant and awful program talking shiite about a proud program like ours. With each post the guy shows himself to be more of a d!ck..... let's not help him out, eh?
 
#718
#718
GreyWolf1129 said:
Fact is, adding USU to that lineup won't drive our OOC "difficulty" rating up one bit.

That's why we play the Oregon's and the Oklahoma's.

And, of course, an SEC schedule.

Kinda funny, really...to you, the UT game is a big deal. To us, you're just another opening win against an overrated mid-major with a Napolean complex.

You should be nicer to UT fans; they're the ones who bought tickets so the UTAD could write your AD a nice check for that trip east to get thumped.

Go Vols.
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Amen
 
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#719
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Fact is, adding USU to that lineup won't drive our OOC "difficulty" rating up one bit.

That's why we play the Oregon's and the Oklahoma's.

And, of course, an SEC schedule.

Kinda funny, really...to you, the UT game is a big deal. To us, you're just another opening win against an overrated "buy a vowel conference" mid-pack team with a Napolean complex.

You should be nicer to UT fans; they're the ones who bought tickets so the UTAD could write your AD a nice check for that trip east to get thumped.

Go Vols.
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Meh. It's not really a big deal, other than the fact that it is a game on our schedule, so I'd like to see us win.

I don't really care if UT is Tennessee or Toledo. I just want us to go out and win the game.

We'll definitely see how much "thumping" really happens.

The last 3 seasons, UT is getting thumped more than they are doing the thumping.

This is not smack talk. This is a fact supported by the number of 21 pts. or greater losses/wins.
 
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ag4fr said:
We'll see how much "thumping" really happens.

The last 3 seasons, UT is getting thumped more than they are doing the thumping.

This is a fact supported by the number of 21 pts. or greater losses/wins.
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You and your past seasons. If we're going to talk pasts, lets go all the way back. If not, we can talk about the future...Which involves UT thumping USU...Either way, you don't have a very strong argument.
 
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#721
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ag4fr said:
Meh. It's not really a big deal, other than the fact that it is a game on our schedule, so I'd like to see us win.

I don't really care if UT is Tennessee or Toledo. I just want us to go out and win the game.

We'll definitely see how much "thumping" really happens.

The last 3 seasons, UT is getting thumped more than they are doing the thumping.

This is not smack talk. This is a fact supported by the number of 21 pts. or greater losses/wins.
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NC State fans said the same thing.
 
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#722
#722
*Yawns* y'all still arguing with the Ag U troll? I mean they'll be a pretty good warm up for Arkansas St.. That's about it tho
 
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#723
#723
Tennkook said:
You and your past seasons. If we're going to talk pasts, lets go all the way back. If not, we can talk about the future...Which involves UT thumping USU...Either way, you don't have a very strong argument.
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You guys aren't drinking the Orange Kool-Aid.

You are swimming in it.
 
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