The Bruce Pearl Thread

Would you be for Bruce Pearl's return if Martin is fired after next year?

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I wonder who CBP would bring in for a staff? Please no to Tony Jones! Start over Bruce and bring in a good X's and O's coach and one that can develop pg's. He does that and the sky's the limit because he has everything else down. But I just want that excitement back!
 
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VolGee4 said:
Has some very good points, and I would be ecstatic if it happened. But, I believe it is a real longshot. If Hart really has aspirations to be the next SEC commissioner, then he is going to be cautious with his decisions.
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If it comes out that Hart spends one minute making decisions for us based on his future ambition then he can hit the door. This AD is at a crossroads position where we can go back to being top 5 or continue to fall. No room for anybody making decisions that aren't in the best interest of the University of Tennessee.
 
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It will never happen. Bruce is NEVER coming back.

<plugs ears and says "I can't hear you" over and over>

Seriously though, hiring Bruce is, pardon the pun, a slam dunk for the basketball program. And as I and many others have said, the combination of Butch and Bruce would skyrocket the value of the UT brand. It's great to have one of those guys on campus, but both? Are you kidding me?

Can you imagine the field day the UT media and marketing departments would have putting them both in commercials together?
 
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Aesius said:
It will never happen. Bruce is NEVER coming back.

<plugs ears and says "I can't hear you" over and over>

Seriously though, hiring Bruce is, pardon the pun, a slam dunk for the basketball program. And as I and many others have said, the combination of Butch and Bruce would skyrocket the value of the UT brand. It's great to have one of those guys on campus, but both? Are you kidding me?

Can you imagine the field day the UT media and marketing departments would have putting them both in commercials together?
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Wow I'm getting cold chills just thinking about it!!!
 
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goldvol said:
I doubt that a former federal prosecutor would make so many grammatical errors. JMO
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My, that really added so much to the discussion. Here's a hint. When people talk about the quality of discourse on this message board, you are not what they're referring to.
 
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jspvol76 said:
Serious question for all the basketball gurus. If Martin is let go, will UT be the best opportunity for Pearl?
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If Pearl comes back then the AD has another problem because TBA will not hold all the people wanting season tickets. So I say yes Tennessee is home for Bruce.

Come on home Bruce where you belong.
 
#4,032
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If it were possible, it should be a no brainer for Hart to hire back Coach Pearl. Recruiting may take a hit but I would rather see Bruce coaching up three star players and making tourney runs instead of this garbage.
 
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Vols4us said:
As to the OP's posted quote I offer this. Bama Dave planned to retain Dools for at least one more season if he had gone to a bowl. That was even after the debacle at UK the previous year along with fruit basket turnover of his coaching staff as well as Duh-rick and Bray's issues. He was backed into the corner and had to pull the trigger by the fan base and boosters. Then he and Cheek proceeded to embarrass the university by begging prominent coaches (Strong and Gundy among others) while dangling huge dollars in front of their faces. They lucked into Butch and came out smelling like a rose providing Butch/staff coach as well as they recruit.

So this Bama Dave/Cheek competency thing in the quoted comments is a problem to me. Cheek has presided over the downturn of all major men's sports at UT in recent years. Bama Dave lost his job at FSU over some smelly relations with the top brass and segments of their fan base. He did not make the move he had the authority and the opportunity to make after Dools' second season and as a result caused the program to go even further in the tank as well as costing the UTAD millions of dollars in funding. Hardly top notch performance by either Cheek or Hart.

So color me skeptical of anything those two can accomplish as it relates to the basketball program. I am squarely in the camp of hiring Bruce back, he never should have been fired to begin with and they should have resisted the NCAA with all they had. That would have spoken volumes to future potential coaches that they stood behind their coaches when relatively minor things go wrong. In that case Hamilton was 100% correct with his recommendations. Zo will determine if he comes back or not by how the season finishes. Maybe Hart can get lucky with an up and comer like the did with Butch. Will see. Not counting on it.

If they did come to their senses and patch things up and rehire Bruce, it would re-energize Vol fans and the program. The recommendation they have a brother's keeper to keep him out of trouble is excellent. I am sure Bruce would do things right and better both on and off the court. There has never been a more no-brainer hire in my book than hiring Bruce back.
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I agree with most of this. I don't really care to comment on Hart's previous tenure at FSU because stuff like that happens without it always being someone's fault. He was there for a while. That said, I do agree that Hart's handling of the football hire was bad. He got real lucky when we turned to Butch, but you can also argue that Strong wasn't a bad option considering he was just hired by a Top 3 program.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
If it comes out that Hart spends one minute making decisions for us based on his future ambition then he can hit the door. This AD is at a crossroads position where we can go back to being top 5 or continue to fall. No room for anybody making decisions that aren't in the best interest of the University of Tennessee.
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Ditto.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
If it were possible, it should be a no brainer for Hart to hire back Coach Pearl. Recruiting may take a hit but I would rather see Bruce coaching up three star players and making tourney runs instead of this garbage.
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My favorite Pearl years were when he had a team full of 3 stars
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
I wonder who CBP would bring in for a staff? Please no to Tony Jones! Start over Bruce and bring in a good X's and O's coach and one that can develop pg's. He does that and the sky's the limit because he has everything else down. But I just want that excitement back!
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I'm 95% sure that tony jones will come back if Bruce does.
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
Wow I'm getting cold chills just thinking about it!!!
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Slam. Friggin. Dunk.
 
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Aesius said:
It will never happen. Bruce is NEVER coming back.

<plugs ears and says "I can't hear you" over and over>

Seriously though, hiring Bruce is, pardon the pun, a slam dunk for the basketball program. And as I and many others have said, the combination of Butch and Bruce would skyrocket the value of the UT brand. It's great to have one of those guys on campus, but both? Are you kidding me?

Can you imagine the field day the UT media and marketing departments would have putting them both in commercials together?
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Just because people are talking about it doesn't mean that it will happen. I would love it. But, it is a longshot if there ever was one.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I live in Knoxville too and are well aware of what was going on. I agree with that all the negative stuff surrounding the programs was becoming tiresome. I don't think the basketball team was as out of control as the football team, probably a result of just numbers.

As to the Crafts, why would they hold a grudge? The could have kept their collective mouths shut and nothing would have come of it. I think about everyone would agree the BBQ was minor but it was the ensuing investigation and perceived cover-up that was this big problem. What the Heck do they have to hold a grudge about, they started the whole investigation rolling.

As to coach Martin, he seems to be a great human being. If you are OK with lackluster coaching and the resulting mediocre results as long as we don't have off the court issues then that is your prerogative. But, if that's your criteria for a coach then I am sure we can find someone a lot cheaper than what Cuonzo is making to make sure that the players stay in line.

There are very few calling for him to be fired before the end of the season. I personally don't think he'll be fired at all this season. They'll wait till the end of next season after we're a bubble team for the NIT.
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The Craft's had their son's eligibility at risk. I'm not sure how the photo came into the possession of the NCAA, but they had it. It would have required all in attendance to go along with Pearl's version of events. Not likely. My guess is that Pearl requesting the Craft's to lie, thereby putting the son's eligibility at risk was a reason some presumed the Craft's might hold a grudge. I'm basing this on a few articles I've read.

Martin. I've been displeased with the outcome of some games like everybody else. He's an inexperienced coach going up against more experienced coaches pretty much night in, night out. I've questioned many of his moves, game tactics. But, and I don't see many that seem to share this view, McRae, Maymon and Barton have not shown good leadership. It's their time, their team. Martin deserves blame, but those three guys have turned the ball over a lot, pout when they get a foul call, pout when they don't get the call, lazy passes, missed lay up's, missed foul shots at crucial times. If those three gave the effort, and played with the attitude they did versus UF every night...but that hasn't happened. Some would say that is Martin's fault, and if it was a bunch of freshmen instead of seniors I might agree. There's not a lot that can be done at this stage of the season, if those guys aren't going to bring their A game because THEY want to make the dance.

As for finding a cheaper coach. I don't agree for a variety of reasons.

There are a lot of folks who want Martin gone, period. I understand that, people are frustrated, I have been.

I'm just asking that we try to treat him with a little decency and recognize that he's got a family and they don't deserve some of the stuff that is going on at present.

There's seven games left, I hope we win them all and I hope we make the tourney. The rest is best left for another time. JMO.
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
I wonder who CBP would bring in for a staff? Please no to Tony Jones! Start over Bruce and bring in a good X's and O's coach and one that can develop pg's. He does that and the sky's the limit because he has everything else down. But I just want that excitement back!
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Your last sentence says it all. Almost everyone wants the excitement and the tournament appearances back. Bruce or maybe a new coach can bring that. With Cuonzo, we are stuck in neutral.
 
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CAVol said:
I didn't see it in the other thread. Also, don't think it's Dane Bradshaw as said poster has been a member of Volquest for 152 months.
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Yeah no way Bradshaw gets on a message board with his own name. Now could it be an intelligent person who is a fan of Danes maybe. Thanks for posting btw.
 
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#4,046
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The way I see it is that Clay Travis is right: We the fans actually have the ability to make this happen.

But the only way we can do that is to back the AD into a corner. Make it IMPOSSIBLE for them to get any fan support if they either keep Martin or hire another lackluster coach (which, let's face it, is a likely scenario).

We need to force their hand in hiring Bruce. The petition, as silly as it might sound, is actually a good starting point for that.

For those who think something like this won't work, think of this: When Microsoft unveiled their new Xbox, some of their used game policies and always online-requirements were met with so much derision and outrage from fans that the company actually reversed course and removed them.

Obviously that's not a perfect 1:1 comparison, but Microsoft is a massive company that had already invested billions in that system. Tennessee basketball is much smaller, but I think the fans have the power to get Bruce back.
 
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Aesius said:
The way I see it is that Clay Travis is right: We the fans actually have the ability to make this happen.

But the only way we can do that is to back the AD into a corner. Make it IMPOSSIBLE for them to get any fan support if they either keep Martin or hire another lackluster coach (which, let's face it, is a likely scenario).

We need to force their hand in hiring Bruce. The petition, as silly as it might sound, is actually a good starting point for that.

For those who think something like this won't work, think of this: When Microsoft unveiled their new Xbox, some of their used game policies and always online-requirements were met with so much derision and outrage from fans that the company actually reversed course and removed them.

Obviously that's not a perfect 1:1 comparison, but Microsoft is a massive company that had already invested billions in that system. Tennessee basketball is much smaller, but I think the fans have the power to get Bruce back.
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Hell that's the reason I own a PS4 now lol
 
#4,049
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Aesius said:
The way I see it is that Clay Travis is right: We the fans actually have the ability to make this happen.

But the only way we can do that is to back the AD into a corner. Make it IMPOSSIBLE for them to get any fan support if they either keep Martin or hire another lackluster coach (which, let's face it, is a likely scenario).

We need to force their hand in hiring Bruce. The petition, as silly as it might sound, is actually a good starting point for that.

For those who think something like this won't work, think of this: When Microsoft unveiled their new Xbox, some of their used game policies and always online-requirements were met with so much derision and outrage from fans that the company actually reversed course and removed them.

Obviously that's not a perfect 1:1 comparison, but Microsoft is a massive company that had already invested billions in that system. Tennessee basketball is much smaller, but I think the fans have the power to get Bruce back.
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Bottom line is that if there is no fan support for the coach ( loss a revenue), then a change will be made. I say good luck to the athletic department next year trying to sell BBALL tickets with CM still coaching and no tourney appearance.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Bottom line is that if there is no fan support for the coach ( loss a revenue), then a change will be made. I say good luck to the athletic department next year trying to sell BBALL tickets with CM still coaching and no tourney appearance.
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Agreed. I hate to actively root against the current team and potentially blow up a recruiting class, but if it means getting Bruce back, it must be done.

The petition is going in the right direction, but even the Bring Back Bruce Pearl Facebook page already has almost 6,000 signatures. We as fans need to make a statement to the AD.
 
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